Author Topic: 2025 MLB Trade Deadline - Rumors, pontificafions, innuendo, zdk, and deals (Read 4362 times)

SkinsNatFan21RIP · « **Reply #75 on:** May 30, 2025, 10:42:02 am »

Quote from: Slateman on May 29, 2025, 05:54:13 pm

If you gave truth serum to Lerner and Rizzo, you'd probably find out that there was a handshake agreement between them that Rizzo would be allowed to spend.

We are absolutely ready to compete with a proper payroll

Don't we pretty much know he wasn't allowed based on Mark vetoing the Christian Walker deal Rizz wanted to do?

Slateman · « **Reply #76 on:** May 30, 2025, 10:51:29 am »

Quote from: SkinsNatFan21RIP on May 30, 2025, 10:42:02 am

Don't we pretty much know he wasn't allowed based on Mark vetoing the Christian Walker deal Rizz wanted to do?

I think that is a pretty safe assumption.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #77 on:** May 31, 2025, 01:39:51 pm »

Assuming Young comes back within about a week and plays well enough, I think the OF depth is good enough to move him to someone who thinks he's a cost-controlled MLB regular and will pay accordingly. Be nice if he could hit .250 with a .320+ OBP and steal bases efficiently. I don't move him aside if they only offer 4th OF/defensive specialist compensation.

Rosario could be moved right now if there's a team that wants righty bat playing 3 IF positions.

Bell and Lowe need to hit well over a stretch to get decent offers, but I'd move at least Bell this year for almost anything if it makes the roster more rational.

Soroka of course should be dealt; it's just a matter of timing. Only if would be somehow if this team contended for the WC at the trade deadline and Soroka is our #2.

I'd not trade Williams. Either he settles down and becomes reliable in the rotation, in which case he's useful here this year and next, or he's moved to the bullpen, in which case he's over-priced and not dealable.

The bullpen arms that will be FAs next year (Chafin, Law, Finnegan) may end up having some value.

IanRubbish · « **Reply #78 on:** May 31, 2025, 01:53:25 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on May 31, 2025, 01:39:51 pm

I'd not trade Williams. Either he settles down and becomes reliable in the rotation, in which case he's useful here this year and next, or he's moved to the bullpen, in which case he's over-priced and not dealable.

Issue with Williams is his velocity keeps trending down. His numbers weren't bad last year when he wasn't injured, but his 4 seamer is probably too slow for a contending team.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #79 on:** May 31, 2025, 02:16:41 pm »

Quote from: IanRubbish on May 31, 2025, 01:53:25 pm

Issue with Williams is his velocity keeps trending down. His numbers weren't bad last year when he wasn't injured, but his 4 seamer is probably too slow for a contending team.

Most likely, he should be in the bullpen. But if he becomes reliable in the rotation, he's a cheap vet starter this year. I think the overhang of next year's contract makes him tough to trade for good value.

Slateman · « **Reply #80 on:** May 31, 2025, 03:01:13 pm »

Wait, why are we moving Young? Unless someone offers you a fantastic deal, keep him and deal Call.

Team like the Tigers could use him. I'd trade him for Gabriel Reyes or Tyler Owens

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #81 on:** May 31, 2025, 03:31:26 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on May 31, 2025, 03:01:13 pm

Wait, why are we moving Young? Unless someone offers you a fantastic deal, keep him and deal Call.

Team like the Tigers could use him. I'd trade him for Gabriel Reyes or Tyler Owens

right, mostly. If someone is going to offer you prospects that are worth a 2.5 fWAR CF, then I do it. Otherwise, he's my 4th OF.

I don't think Call gets you much in trade, but you have 2 options with him, so he can be stashed or go up an down through 2026. He's a pure 4th outfielder.

Slateman · « **Reply #82 on:** May 31, 2025, 04:52:06 pm »

Padres and Royals need OF help against LHP. Deal em Call

imref · « **Reply #83 on:** June 12, 2025, 11:27:48 am »

Bowden says the Nats are looking for an ace to pair with gore and may be willing to spend.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #84 on:** June 12, 2025, 11:45:19 am »

Quote from: imref on June 12, 2025, 11:27:48 am

Bowden says the Nats are looking for an ace to pair with gore and may be willing to spend.

ok, so if Bowden says it, it's not happening. Also, that's offseason not trade deadline.

imref · « **Reply #85 on:** June 12, 2025, 11:48:12 am »

Both deadline and offseason:

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"The Nationals are looking for an ace to pair with MacKenzie Gore at the top of their rotation. That will be their priority at the trade deadline and in the offseason. It appears their ownership could be willing to spend more in the offseason to make impactful moves and start getting serious about trying to contend."

Slateman · « **Reply #86 on:** June 12, 2025, 11:51:49 am »

https://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=42060.0

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #87 on:** June 12, 2025, 01:50:09 pm »

M erged.

Slateman · « **Reply #88 on:** June 12, 2025, 01:50:54 pm »

House, Garcia, and Irvin for Bryan Woo.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #89 on:** June 12, 2025, 01:59:56 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on June 12, 2025, 01:50:54 pm

House, Garcia, and Irvin for Bryan Woo.

Yoyo to play 3rd?

Slateman · « **Reply #90 on:** June 12, 2025, 02:41:19 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on June 12, 2025, 01:59:56 pm

Yoyo to play 3rd?

Or Tena. Or sign Bregman. I dunno, I'm just going with this trade for an ace thing

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #91 on:** June 12, 2025, 04:47:27 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on June 12, 2025, 02:41:19 pm

Or Tena. Or sign Bregman. I dunno, I'm just going with this trade for an ace thing

I thought you were talking this deadline so trying to figure out who to play there in 2025.

welch · « **Reply #92 on:** June 12, 2025, 05:51:26 pm »

I think House gets promoted next week. YoYo has not adjusted to Rochester, so there is no 3B ahead of Holliday. Yes, Nats will draft Holliday. Maybe they will hunt for a veteran catcher, someone like Gomes/Suzuki were. An ace? Offseason.

SkinsNatFan21RIP · « **Reply #93 on:** June 13, 2025, 10:16:54 am »

Quote from: Slateman on June 12, 2025, 01:50:54 pm

House, Garcia, and Irvin for Bryan Woo.

If House is traded I'll be extremely disappointed in this franchise.

imref · « **Reply #94 on:** June 13, 2025, 10:57:21 am »

Quote from: welch on June 12, 2025, 05:51:26 pm

I think House gets promoted next week. YoYo has not adjusted to Rochester, so there is no 3B ahead of Holliday. Yes, Nats will draft Holliday. Maybe they will hunt for a veteran catcher, someone like Gomes/Suzuki were. An ace? Offseason.

YoYo moved way up in the BBA rankings.

aspenbubba · « **Reply #95 on:** June 14, 2025, 04:06:10 pm »

The season is lost with another 7 game losing streak. Losing 2 to the Marlins is just too painful to watch. At this point you DFA Bell and bring up House. You move Wood to DH with Chappy filling in on LHP. I recognize we are light for a 4th OF and I’m very reluctant to send Tena down and release Rosario as he was the best acquisition this off season. Catcher is a black hole that needs to be addressed in the off season.

varoadking · « **Reply #96 on:** June 14, 2025, 06:25:50 pm »

Quote from: aspenbubba on June 14, 2025, 04:06:10 pm

The season is lost with another 7 game losing streak. Losing 2 to the Marlins is just too painful to watch. At this point you DFA Bell and bring up House. You move Wood to DH with Chappy filling in on LHP. I recognize we are light for a 4th OF and I’m very reluctant to send Tena down and release Rosario as he was the best acquisition this off season. Catcher is a black hole that needs to be addressed in the off season.

There is no fixing this no matter how many deck chairs you rearrange. This mess needs to suffer an implosion from the top down...

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #97 on:** June 14, 2025, 07:41:26 pm »

Wood is fielding much better the past month plus. No reason to move him out of left.

As far as know, you need 3 outfielders. We have one who can hit. Long run, I don't think it is a weak spot. Crews is at least a regular and I think something more, and maybe we have a platoon in CF with Hassell and Young. They are less exposed at the plate that way. Short term, Call is OK as the 4th outfielder and platoon right fielder.
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varoadking · « **Reply #98 on:** June 14, 2025, 09:41:19 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on June 14, 2025, 07:41:26 pm

Wood is fielding much better the past month plus. No reason to move him out of left.

As far as know, you need 3 outfielders. We have one who can hit. Long run, I don't think it is a weak spot. Crews is at least a regular and I think something more, and maybe we have a platoon in CF with Hassell and Young. They are less exposed at the plate that way. Short term, Call is OK as the 4th outfielder and platoon right fielder.

Wood is the only one who would be a regular on a .500+ team. For all his hype, Crews is arguably the weakest of the remaining outfielders you mentioned...other than his arm. The arm seems to play...

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #99 on:** June 14, 2025, 10:18:23 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on June 14, 2025, 09:41:19 pm

. For all his hype, Crews is arguably the weakest of the remaining outfielders you mentioned...other than his arm. The arm seems to play...

I don't think this comment's gonna age well. Even as bad as his average was, he's tied for 2d in HRs among NL rookies. Also tied for 1st in steals among NL rookies. You don't buy advanced stats, but his xwOBA is .343. That may come down, but that .233 BABIP isn't going to last either when he's 4th in hard hit percentage. Like I said, he's at least a regular.