2025 MLB Trade Deadline - Rumors, pontificafions, innuendo, zdk, and deals

[blue911]

So, we're in Purgatory...

Hell, buddy. Praying ain’t getting you out of this

[IanRubbish]

I don’t get the point of holding onto Gore when he pitches less than a third as many innings as the worst-in-the-league bullpen, can’t fix the boneheaded clown play on the bases and in the field, as is gone after ‘27.  And in the less than 1% chance he’d somehow stay, Mini Me would tie the team down to more heavy deferrals.   

[BigMeech]

This team is in permanent hell, man.  There will be no Harrowing.

[Slateman]

If DeBartolo is the Lerners pick for long(ish)-term GM and they won't spend in the offseason, then DeBarto may as well trade Wood, Abrams, and Gore at the deadline or during the offseason. Essentially, start the rebuild over.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

If DeBartolo is the Lerners pick for long(ish)-term GM and they won't spend in the offseason, then DeBarto may as well trade Wood, Abrams, and Gore at the deadline or during the offseason. Essentially, start the rebuild over.

Wood has a lot more control than Abrams and Gore. He can't/shouldn't be dealt until closer to Soto time (2.5 -3 years of control). Abrams and Gore are about that stage.

[nobleisthyname]

Whatever the Pirates and Marlins are.

Rebuild mode implies you have ownership that wants to get better and a plan to improve.

We would be lucky to be the Marlins. At least they're investing heavily in analytics and player development and have already surpassed us in their rebuild despite starting it later. They have a chance to become the Rays/Guardians/Brewers.

We're just the Pirates now.

[imref]

Without Skenes.

[IanRubbish]

We're just the Pirates now.

Pirates have a -46 run differential, Nats -94.   

[welch]

Trade DeJong; keep Rosario as the utility infielder. Bring up Hassell and platoon him with Young in CF. Crews plays RF. Call and Bell at DH, unless another team offers something real for Bell. Lile plays some RF, unless the Nats send him to Harrisburg or Rochester to learn to field. Kiebert needs a stint to rehab his hitting, so Adams catches until the end of the season.

Buy some pitching in the offseason.

[Slateman]

Why would we keep Rosario?

[GataNats]

Trade DeJong; keep Rosario as the utility infielder. Bring up Hassell and platoon him with Young in CF. Crews plays RF. Call and Bell at DH, unless another team offers something real for Bell. Lile plays some RF, unless the Nats send him to Harrisburg or Rochester to learn to field. Kiebert needs a stint to rehab his hitting, so Adams catches until the end of the season.

Buy some pitching in the offseason.

Absolutely do not keep Rosario.  He is awful defensively

[GataNats]

The crazy thing is we have three superstars in Wood, Gore, and Abrams.  House is going to be a stuperstar.   Than, we have Lile and Hassels.   Spend everything on pitching

[JCA-CrystalCity]

There's a part of me that hopes they don't deal Abrams and Gore, or hold off to their last year of control, and just add players so that this team's within a couple games of .500 the next few years. I'd like to walk into the ballpark or turn on the tv and think we have a coin flip chance of winning, even if it's not a playoff team

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Guest: What do you think of a potential Mackenzie Gore trade?

2:58

Ben Clemens: I think it makes a lot of sense for the Nats, tbh. he’s very out of phase with the rest of what they’re hoping to do

2:58

Ben Clemens: in that like, his value will probably never be higher than it is right now

2:59

Ben Clemens: whereas if you think the Nats are on a good path, it involves the long-term duo of Crews and Wood

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ben-clemens-fangraphs-chat-7-14-25/

I think I am on board with trying to move Gore and aim to contend a bit later with Wood, Crews, and House.

[Smithian]

If I am the Nats, I take phone calls on Gore and Abrams. But it has to be a huge offer. Otherwise, I want a permanent head of baseball in the role to decide what they want to do so they can leverage those assets to their organizational strategy.

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

If I am the Nats, I take phone calls on Gore and Abrams. But it has to be a huge offer. Otherwise, I want a permanent head of baseball in the role to decide what they want to do so they can leverage those assets to their organizational strategy.

If we’re now taking offers on the guys we got in return for Soto then this whole thing is an embarrassment and I’m probably taking a break as a fan. There’s no end in sight in that case and I refuse to just be a fan of a team with no chance ever after doing it for so many years already.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

If we’re now taking offers on the guys we got in return for Soto then this whole thing is an embarrassment and I’m probably taking a break as a fan. There’s no end in sight in that case and I refuse to just be a fan of a team with no chance ever after doing it for so many years already.

kind of why this was a critical year and it was badly botched. We needed to be wild card contenders in 2025 because the talent we got in trade would be approaching free agency

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

kind of why this was a critical year and it was badly botched. We needed to be wild card contenders in 2025 because the talent we got in trade would be approaching free agency

I know this is a crazy concept with our ownership group but you could always pay them and keep them…

[Mattionals]

Yea, if they burn the guys they got from the Soto trade, I don't know about me. I'm interested in the Rays right now with the new owner. Well I won't be a Phillies, Yankees, Mets, Braves, Marlins, Orioles, Cardinals, or Dodgers fan.

[Slateman]

If we’re now taking offers on the guys we got in return for Soto then this whole thing is an embarrassment and I’m probably taking a break as a fan. There’s no end in sight in that case and I refuse to just be a fan of a team with no chance ever after doing it for so many years already.

We acknowledge it's an embarrassment. Ownership freaked the fan base by refusing to spend money.

We are the Pirates until the team is sold

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I'm less disappointed about having to sell some pieces from the Soto trade or moving players we got in other deals. I like Gore a lot. The 3 jerseys I have from the Nats are a red Soto 22 jersey and two Nats SPH jerseys with Gore 1 and Harvey 73 on them. But if you are with an org that won't spend money, then you have to move guys to restock and add depth. If we end up with Wood putting up Soto numbers, maybe Susana with a major role, and a lesser role for Hassell out of the deal, and 2-3 other contributors for 2026-30, then that's building and not treading water. It's sort of the Tampa Bay way. They didn't hold Big Game James Shields, David Price, etc... too tightly but they were able to build contenders. That's probably the best approach for the Nats with CJ and Gore if we aren't signing them, and may even be better than signing them.

Harvey for Wallace and Lomavita, Thomas for Clemmey and Tena, ...

[IanRubbish]

I know this is a crazy concept with our ownership group but you could always pay them and keep them…

Boras will make that impossible with Wood and Gore.  Not going to happen, and in the very slight chance it did, Lerners would want to cripple the future with heavy deferrals.

I like what DeBartolo did going against the conventional #1 pick, and avoiding Boras clients Anderson and Holliday.  The big problem with the Soto trade was that it brought back two Boras clients for one.  I get that this team had a lot of good luck with Boras clients in the 2010s, but that luck has run out, and it's time to be more like the Braves and to stop dealing with him.  I'd trade Gore now to begin an actual rebuild, with the intent of being competitive at some point before Wood goes.  I'd also start thinking like the Padres and Braves and extending non-Boras clients into their early 30s, and importantly, not playing their contract if things go awry as was done with Keibert.

[IanRubbish]

If we end up with Wood putting up Soto numbers, maybe Susana with a major role, and a lesser role for Hassell out of the deal, and 2-3 other contributors for 2026-30, then that's building and not treading water.

Susana hasn't done a thing above High A except walk everyone and get injured.  We need to lose the Tyrannosaurus Rizzo mindset of hyping A-ball prospects, or confusing a prospect with one who can consistently play above average. 

We're not building until there are more players across the board closer to demonstrating they can play above average at some point in MLB, and developed a culture that focuses on performance, not politicking.  The latter at least requires firing Davey's friends Cairo, Hickey, and Coles. 

[Slateman]

Susana hasn't done a thing above High A except walk everyone and get injured. 

And strike people out. Which is one of the two most expensive things in baseball

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

Boras will make that impossible with Wood and Gore.  Not going to happen, and in the very slight chance it did, Lerners would want to cripple the future with heavy deferrals.

I like what DeBartolo did going against the conventional #1 pick, and avoiding Boras clients Anderson and Holliday.  The big problem with the Soto trade was that it brought back two Boras clients for one.  I get that this team had a lot of good luck with Boras clients in the 2010s, but that luck has run out, and it's time to be more like the Braves and to stop dealing with him.  I'd trade Gore now to begin an actual rebuild, with the intent of being competitive at some point before Wood goes.  I'd also start thinking like the Padres and Braves and extending non-Boras clients into their early 30s, and importantly, not playing their contract if things go awry as was done with Keibert.

If we get a salary cap like ownership and the league seems to want Boras won't matter anymore. I get the MLBPA is going to have a crap-fit over it but its badly needed along with a salary floor. Forcing a floor and cap makes the league way more competitive and it will eliminate ownership like the Pirates, Nats, Marlins etc from being able to field teams that cost less than one player on the Mets and Dodgers.