2025 MLB Trade Deadline - Rumors, pontificafions, innuendo, zdk, and deals

[IdahoNat]

I'd hold on Soroka and see if they can resign him to a team friendly extension.

[Slateman]

I'd hold on Soroka and see if they can resign him to a team friendly extension.

Lol, the dude who lost 4 years of his career isn't taking a "team friendly" deal. Hes going to look to get the most money he can. Absolutely have to trade him and Finnegan at the deadline

[Mattionals]

Lol, the dude who lost 4 years of his career isn't taking a "team friendly" deal. Hes going to look to get the most money he can. Absolutely have to trade him and Finnegan at the deadline

This.

[OfftheBat]

I predict that Finnegan will be dealt to the Jays as they need bullpen help to potentially win the AL East.

[Mattionals]

So I always figured Soroka would be dealt as a reliever and today's "performance" probably solidified that .

[IanRubbish]

So I always figured Soroka would be dealt as a reliever and today's "performance" probably solidified that .

Not sure if he has much trade value either way.  Also, this team does not typically make deadline moves unless the trading partner agrees to take on the remaining salary, and he's getting paid a lot for this level of performance. 

[Slateman]

Not sure if he has much trade value either way.  Also, this team does not typically make deadline moves unless the trading partner agrees to take on the remaining salary, and he's getting paid a lot for this level of performance. 

lol, that's the expectation for every team in baseball. The trading team paying salary is rare.

So I always figured Soroka would be dealt as a reliever and today's "performance" probably solidified that .

Naw, not really. His peripherals are really good. He may not start a playoff game, but teams will take his performance over 5-6 innings. His ability to go back into the pen and get strikeouts will only increase his value

[IanRubbish]

His peripherals are really good.

His K/BB is good, but he gets hit hard with high avg EV and launch angle.  Not worth the $3-$4 million someone would have to pick up to acquire him this year.  At most, he's included in a package for a salary dump but is not bringing back anything in return.

[varoadking]

...he's...not bringing back anything in return.

That will fit right in with the rest of the roster...

[IdahoNat]

Not sure if he has much trade value either way.  Also, this team does not typically make deadline moves unless the trading partner agrees to take on the remaining salary, and he's getting paid a lot for this level of performance.

He does. He's in the top 75th percentile of strikeout percentage and 78th percentile in walk rates.

[Slateman]

His K/BB is good, but he gets hit hard with high avg EV and launch angle.  Not worth the $3-$4 million someone would have to pick up to acquire him this year.  At most, he's included in a package for a salary dump but is not bringing back anything in return.

Teams will absolutely pay that for ~4 ERA down the stretch. His EVs have been below 90 the last 8 starts.

Literally no team is quibbling over so little money. Especially for that performance. Pitching always goes for a premium at the deadline. Hes better and cheaper than Kikuchi was at least year's deadline. crap, the Reds got something decent for Montas despite him costing almost twice as much and having an ERA over 5 at the deadline.

[IdahoNat]

The pitch I'd make to Soroka to stay here is that a contender may overwork him and danger his long term career. The Nats will keep him as a starter and manage his workload better.

[Slateman]

The pitch I'd make to Soroka to stay here is that a contender may overwork him and danger his long term career. The Nats will keep him as a starter and manage his workload better.

He gets one shot to cash in. He's taking it. Plus, I'd imagine after everything he's been through, he wants to get a shot at the postseason.

[GataNats]

Guy is the second worst starting pitcher in baseball behind Williams

[Slateman]

Guy is the second worst starting pitcher in baseball behind Williams

Not even the second worst pitcher in the team....

[IdahoNat]

He gets one shot to cash in. He's taking it. Plus, I'd imagine after everything he's been through, he wants to get a shot at the postseason.

He's only 27. Way too much baseball ahead of him.

[IanRubbish]

Teams will absolutely pay that for ~4 ERA down the stretch. His EVs have been below 90 the last 8 starts.

LOL, it's a 5.40 ERA.  No contending team is going to cherry pick stats for a guy who's been getting shelled with a high EV and launch angle, to go along with a low whiff rate. 

[IdahoNat]

LOL, it's a 5.40 ERA.  No contending team is going to cherry pick stats for a guy who's been getting shelled with a high EV and launch angle, to go along with a low whiff rate.

He usually gets hit hard after the fifth inning so they could use him as a long man if they didn't feel comfortable putting him in the rotation.

[GataNats]

LOL, it's a 5.40 ERA.  No contending team is going to cherry pick stats for a guy who's been getting shelled with a high EV and launch angle, to go along with a low whiff rate.

A below 4 ERA!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Slateman]

82nd percentile in xERA. 76th in K%. 79th in BB.

Teams will chalk up an inflated ERA to the worst catching and second worst bullpen in baseball. Hes going to generate a lot of interest if he pitches the rest of the month like he did in June

[IanRubbish]

82nd percentile in xERA. 76th in K%. 79th in BB.

Teams will chalk up an inflated ERA to the worst catching and second worst bullpen in baseball. Hes going to generate a lot of interest if he pitches the rest of the month like he did in June

xERA is not a good stat for Williams or Soroka,  because it doesn’t account for why they get shelled, and overweights not walking guys.  Soroka’s had bad launch angle numbers since his injury, and won’t fetch much from a contending team. 

[IdahoNat]

xERA is not a good stat for Williams or Soroka,  because it doesn’t account for why they get shelled, and overweights not walking guys.  Soroka’s had bad launch angle numbers since his injury, and won’t fetch much from a contending team.

Well if they don't value him, all the more reason we should keep our diamond in the rough.

[GataNats]

Imagine taking up for a guy that can’t get through 5 innings, who has been hurt this season, and who has been a bullpen pitcher the past 4 years, like Williams, until he gets here.   Guy is a schnook

[IanRubbish]

Well if they don't value him, all the more reason we should keep our diamond in the rough.

Soroka's a free agent, and we're paying him more than he's worth.  No reason to bring him back in '26. 

[nobleisthyname]

xERA is not a good stat for Williams or Soroka,  because it doesn’t account for why they get shelled, and overweights not walking guys.  Soroka’s had bad launch angle numbers since his injury, and won’t fetch much from a contending team.

xERA is literally derived from things like launch angle and exit velocity. All of the "x" stats are based on statcast data (minus xFIP). If you look at his savant page his hard hit rate is below average but his barrel rate is very good.