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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #125 on: July 14, 2026, 04:59:48 pm »
The Athletic reports that the MLB wants to make 2028 Olympics participation mandatory for chosen players, and enforce fines and other punishments on those who sit out.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7445406/2026/07/14/union-mlb-olympic-participation-consequences/

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #126 on: July 14, 2026, 06:45:01 pm »
Good luck, every player has some injury or soreness or tightness by that point in the season they can blame

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #127 on: July 14, 2026, 07:21:23 pm »
The Athletic reports that the MLB wants to make 2028 Olympics participation mandatory for chosen players, and enforce fines and other punishments on those who sit out.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7445406/2026/07/14/union-mlb-olympic-participation-consequences/

Behind a paywall so I don't know the "Or else" part is...

Sounds like one of those throw away conditions once the MLBPA balks...

Stoopid...

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #128 on: July 14, 2026, 07:28:07 pm »
Here's ESPN report:
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49357692/issues-tickets-rooms-complicate-mlb-playing-olympics

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Potential complications have arisen during negotiations, which involve a complex web of issues that include hotel rooms, tickets, insurance, NIL rights and the mandatory-participation agreement proposed by the league that would place players who run afoul of requirements on the restricted list, without pay or service time, from July 12 to Aug. 3, according to a copy of the league's proposal obtained by ESPN.

MLB's aim at mandating participation, sources said, is to ensure a showcase on the world stage includes the game's biggest stars, from Japan's Shohei Ohtani to New York Yankees captain Aaron Judge. Beyond balking at compulsory involvement for all players, the MLBPA strongly opposes a deal that would allow placement on the restricted list as well as commissioner Rob Manfred's ability in the agreement "to discipline for just cause" with "a fine and/or unpaid suspension," according to the league's proposal.

"We made a proposal to the union which included a schedule and a mandatory participation agreement," MLB spokesperson Glen Caplin said. "The union then pursued a negotiation with LA28 over largely economic issues, including housing and tickets, and told us they would not respond until they finished with LA28."

One week prior to the mandatory-participation agreement MLB proposed May 27, LA28 had sent the MLBPA a memorandum of understanding that intended to serve as an outline for any deal. Players were told LA28's friends-and-family ticket policy allowed athletes to purchase two tickets per game in which they participated. At the same time, the email said, "we feel confident we can unlock the right to purchase additional for each Athlete ... but we also understand if this group requires something more dedicated upfront."

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #129 on: July 14, 2026, 07:58:02 pm »
Here's ESPN report:
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49357692/issues-tickets-rooms-complicate-mlb-playing-olympics

Thanks...

They are up to their neck in minutiae...this looks like a bunch of rising junior interns came up with this list.

What do you do with a guy that has dual citizenship and isn't interested in playing for the country that drafts him?

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #130 on: July 14, 2026, 09:02:16 pm »
Thanks...

They are up to their neck in minutiae...this looks like a bunch of rising junior interns came up with this list.

What do you do with a guy that has dual citizenship and isn't interested in playing for the country that drafts him?

What if the manager has a reliever who’s closing for a rival in a pennant chase? Does that guy get to not pitch multiple innings back to back?

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #131 on: July 17, 2026, 01:46:06 pm »
Passan’s latest: basically a holding pattern now until March.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49381100/mlb-labor-dispute-looms-2026-all-star-game

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #132 on: July 17, 2026, 02:50:23 pm »
I saw an ad for a salary cap on a news program

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #133 on: July 17, 2026, 04:56:29 pm »
I saw an ad for a salary cap on a news program

Make billionaires richer

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #134 on: July 17, 2026, 09:52:26 pm »
Make billionaires richer
How does the salary floor fit in with that?

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« Reply #135 on: July 17, 2026, 10:32:25 pm »
How does the salary floor fit in with that?

Do you think owners are pushing a cap because it will hurt valuations?

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #136 on: July 17, 2026, 11:03:36 pm »
Do you think owners are pushing a cap because it will hurt valuations?
I think the proposal as it is will increase overall salaries.  There are more teams below the floor proposed than above the cap.  There are more players below the average salary than above it. Also depends if it ends up a hard cap or something with exceptions. Team valuations will go up either way with or without a cap.

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« Reply #137 on: July 18, 2026, 06:42:54 am »
I think the proposal as it is will increase overall salaries.  There are more teams below the floor proposed than above the cap.  There are more players below the average salary than above it. Also depends if it ends up a hard cap or something with exceptions. Team valuations will go up either way with or without a cap.

The proposal is being heavily pushed by owners. To me, that means they see financial upside 

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #138 on: August 02, 2026, 10:52:34 am »
Skubal: need a hard salary cap.

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #139 on: August 02, 2026, 10:55:31 am »
Skubal is owned the back end of an arbitration year. Any team could have afforded that contract

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #140 on: August 02, 2026, 11:03:26 am »
Skubal is owned the back end of an arbitration year. Any team could have afforded that contract

Not every team has the prospect depth. And the ones that do need to keep them because they can’t afford to go out and pay 700 million for free agents. Developing prospects is their mechanism for staying competitive.

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« Reply #141 on: August 02, 2026, 11:23:38 am »
Not every team has the prospect depth. And the ones that do need to keep them because they can’t afford to go out and pay 700 million for free agents. Developing prospects is their mechanism for staying competitive.

It was one good prospect and a 28 year old who hasn’t pitched anywhere close to a full season

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #142 on: August 02, 2026, 12:00:28 pm »
I think the tigers just wanted to do a favor for him by trading him to the dodgers. Otherwise this deal doesn’t make sense for him. Maybe it’s goodwill on the idea that the new CBA may prevent the dodgers from signing him long term.

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #143 on: August 02, 2026, 01:11:18 pm »
Skubal is owned the back end of an arbitration year. Any team could have afforded that contract
he's making $28 million this year, I think. 1/3 remaining, so $9 million plus. 2 months is more than the Nats biggest full season contract.

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« Reply #144 on: August 02, 2026, 01:16:40 pm »
he's making $28 million this year, I think. 1/3 remaining, so $9 million plus. 2 months is more than the Nats biggest full season contract.

The Lerners are exceptionally cheap. They could have afforded it, they just won’t spend money

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« Reply #145 on: August 02, 2026, 01:44:23 pm »
The actual numbers don’t matter. It’s just the perception that the Dodgers get all of the high value players.  That’s what’s going to drive the other owners to dig in.

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #146 on: August 02, 2026, 01:55:09 pm »
he's making $28 million this year, I think. 1/3 remaining, so $9 million plus. 2 months is more than the Nats biggest full season contract.

not if you count what they’re paying scherzer and strasburg ☠️

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« Reply #147 on: August 02, 2026, 02:27:51 pm »
The actual numbers don’t matter. It’s just the perception that the Dodgers get all of the high value players.  That’s what’s going to drive the other owners to dig in.

So you’re saying owners would rather not bid and improve public perception during a lockout than get an ace for a pennant/playoff run?

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« Reply #148 on: August 02, 2026, 04:04:05 pm »
So you’re saying owners would rather not bid and improve public perception during a lockout than get an ace for a pennant/playoff run?

No. I’m saying for some reason the the Tigers sent Skubal to the Dodgers, either because that’s where he wanted to go or because they offered the best package.  Those in favor of a lockout will use this as further evidence that a salary cap is needed to stop the Dodgers unfair advantage.  Nobody cares about public perception.  But this will make some owners much less likely to give into the players when negotiations come around.

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Re: The Next CBA (2027 and beyond)
« Reply #149 on: August 03, 2026, 01:01:11 pm »
It was one good prospect and a 28 year old who hasn’t pitched anywhere close to a full season
It was a top 25 prospect and another top 100. Few teams can really afford to cough that up for 2 month rental with elbow concerns.

The Dodgers can do this because they can afford to use free agency to cover losing prospects. Can other teams do this? Yes. Can they do it at the same rate/level the Dodgers do? Most can't.