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Offline imref

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Kyle is back!
« on: February 25, 2025, 04:12:05 pm »
1/$6M. No word on a corresponding move but I’d bet Cavalli to the 60-day IL

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2025, 04:38:54 pm »
1/$6M. No word on a corresponding move but I’d bet Cavalli to the 60-day IL
Very good development. Not sure it will be worth the money saved if he has a slow start after missing beginning of Spring, but better back late than not at all.

We know who Finnegan is, for better or worse, and having a designated closer back makes things look less gross up and down the pen.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2025, 04:47:18 pm »
Well well well. After all that, Finnegan stays on the team and the Nationals save $3.5 million. WNFF pundits like myself owe the team an apology.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2025, 05:02:44 pm »
Meh, not really a needle mover. Just another piece to trade for scraps at the deadline

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2025, 05:28:45 pm »
Meh, not really a needle mover. Just another piece to trade for scraps at the deadline
we never trade him, even if it makes sense. More dad jokes, too!

Bullpen is getting deeper. Not high end, but not bad.

I'm worried about DLaw at this point. He threw a ton of innings last year, and he's not pitching yet. He's important to the depth.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2025, 06:04:57 pm »
Less money but he’s probably unhappy about that. Hope it works out.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2025, 06:09:15 pm »
we never trade him, even if it makes sense. More dad jokes, too!

Bullpen is getting deeper. Not high end, but not bad.

I'm worried about DLaw at this point. He threw a ton of innings last year, and he's not pitching yet. He's important to the depth.
The bullpen is still a sub .500 team bullpen.

Yea, he had 38 saves. He also had a 4.34 xERA, and was well below average in K rate, whiff rate, and walks.

Perfectly cromulent.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2025, 07:18:59 pm »
Badly needed.  Doesn’t turn the team into a winner, but the bullpen was looking miserable.  Plus Mini Me must be happy that he saved $2 million.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2025, 08:33:18 pm »
Well well well. After all that, Finnegan stays on the team and the Nationals save $3.5 million. WNFF pundits like myself owe the team an apology.
Paid for Rosario and DeJong  :money: :money:

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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2025, 08:53:45 pm »
Hopefully we get 1st half 2024 Kyle and then trade him before he turns into 2nd half 2024 Kyle.


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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2025, 12:33:05 am »

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2025, 06:11:48 am »
Hopefully we get 1st half 2024 Kyle and then trade him before he turns into 2nd half 2024 Kyle.


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Yes and he should be a set up guy and get a legit closer.

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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2025, 08:22:56 am »
Hopefully we get 1st half 2024 Kyle and then trade him before he turns into 2nd half 2024 Kyle. our record is too good to consider trading him at the deadline.


FTFY :nono:

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2025, 06:04:58 pm »
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Yes and he should be a set up guy and get a legit closer.
That's what I've beens saying, even before he fell off a cliff last year.

Why did Finnegan's stock fall so sharply, so fast?  Just seven months ago he was the greatest thing since Sean Doolittle.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2025, 06:10:02 pm »
That's what I've beens saying, even before he fell off a cliff last year.

Why did Finnegan's stock fall so sharply, so fast?  Just seven months ago he was the greatest thing since Sean Doolittle.
look at his 2nd half (versus 1st half) performance last year. He went from being an all-star to a pretty poor performer. He'll get the chance to start as closer and then we'll see what happens.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2025, 05:33:44 pm »
Most underpaid player in baseball.

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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2025, 05:34:17 pm »
Most underpaid player in baseball.
most is deferred, too

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2025, 11:31:23 am »
Time for me to acknowledge that Finnegan has been a pleasant surprise. Others might have seen this coming, and his 2024 2d half disappointed, but right now he's performing and mostly deserving his success.

This year, he's running a higher GB rate - 51.5%, over 50% for the first time since 2020. That compares to a league average for relievers of 42.6%. His barrel rate is below average -6.0%, vs reliever average of 8.1%. Roughly average hard hit rate, but more of it goes into the ground. His Ks continue to decline and are below average as he's 7.94 vs. 8.73 / 9. It's the first time he's below 8. maybe more important is his BB rate has dropped to below league average, too (3.18/9 vs. 3.66/9 for relievers) and his K/BB is slightly better than average. His BABIP is elevated, probably due to having the crew of doctor strangegloves behind him in the infield, but his WHIP is slightly better than average. He's managed to not give up a homer so far, but even the stats that normalize HR rate view him as above average.

Velo is down but still better than average, and the separation between his fastball and his split and slider is bigger than it's ever been. Throwing more in the strike zone, so his called and swinging strikes % is up even with a dip in his swinging strike percentage. That said, he's draws way below average chase out of the zone (Mlb average for relievers - 31.4%, Finnegan - 23.5%). His thing seems to be throwing a lot of strikes (58.4% vs. reliever average of 43.1%), giving up some contact into the ground, and getting more called strikes as hitters swing at a lower % of his strikes.

tl;dr - he's getting a lot of called strikes and ground balls as he fills the strike zone, and hasn't been punished by homers yet.

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2025, 12:49:13 pm »
And so the era ends: 5 years of closing games, 108 saves, 5 behind Cordero for the all-time Nats lead (not including Cordero's 15 saves with the Expos).

Good luck in Detroit Kyle!

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2025, 12:57:03 pm »
Kyle Finnegan is a bullpen workhorse who I'll remember fondly down the line as someone willing to take the ball nonstop on a terrible team.

Good luck in Detroit, he'd be a good high leverage middle inning arm for a team serious about competing

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2025, 01:25:39 pm »
Good luck to Finny! Wish him the best but this trade not happening last year when he had higher value was pure insanity.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2025, 01:42:05 pm »
Sign him back in the off-season

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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2025, 01:48:13 pm »
saw that the Tigers are picking up the pro-rated portion of Finnegan's deferred salary, or about 1/3rd of $2 million in 2026 and 2027.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2025, 02:06:45 pm »
Meh, not really a needle mover. Just another piece to trade for scraps at the deadline

Let it be written.

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Re: Kyle is back!
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2025, 04:53:02 pm »
saw that the Tigers are picking up the pro-rated portion of Finnegan's deferred salary, or about 1/3rd of $2 million in 2026 and 2027.

I didn't know the contract was deferred... The Lerners really are broke aren't they?