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Re: Sunshine Squad: 2025
« Reply #225 on: August 12, 2025, 03:44:30 pm »
If Gore pitches well today, the Nats could have three usable starters.
With Susana, Bennett, Clemmey, Sykora, Herz, and Gray joining/rejoining within the next 2 years. Best case scenario, 2 of them become quality rotation pitchers and maybe at least another 2 become quality bullpen pieces.

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« Reply #226 on: August 13, 2025, 08:24:50 pm »
Lile is looking like a hitter.

Smithian off the schneid as a GDT starter.

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« Reply #227 on: August 13, 2025, 08:48:17 pm »
Lile is looking like a hitter.

Smithian off the schneid as a GDT starter.

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« Reply #228 on: August 14, 2025, 09:43:02 pm »
Get a respectable starting pitcher this offseason. Does not have to be the next Max. Just somebody competent. Pick up a few of the older relievers that always hang around...another Chafin. With some natural improvement in the hitting, and as we watch Bennett, Clemmy, and Susana move to Rochester...[optimistic phrase deleted because the Lerners will probably still own the team]

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« Reply #229 on: August 15, 2025, 10:17:22 am »
Get a respectable starting pitcher this offseason. Does not have to be the next Max. Just somebody competent. Pick up a few of the older relievers that always hang around...another Chafin. With some natural improvement in the hitting, and as we watch Bennett, Clemmy, and Susana move to Rochester...[optimistic phrase deleted because the Lerners will probably still own the team]

Not the sunshine-iest post in the thread.     :?

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« Reply #230 on: August 15, 2025, 11:26:27 am »
Get a respectable starting pitcher this offseason. Does not have to be the next Max. Just somebody competent. Pick up a few of the older relievers that always hang around...another Chafin. With some natural improvement in the hitting, and as we watch Bennett, Clemmy, and Susana move to Rochester...[optimistic phrase deleted because the Lerners will probably still own the team]
Sunshine spin on the last point:

Let's assume the owners are just in it to drain as much cash as possible. If the team did find itself in a position with cornerstones of Wood, Crews, and Abrams in place along with Gore, Lord, and one other good SP among Cavalli et al, and perhaps another one or two relievers to form a reliable "bullpen A" with Ferrer and Henry, the might be good enough to make the owners think the best way to make money would be to invest in another mid-rotation guy and another position player who could move this team into playoff contention. That will drive up ticket revenue and the team's price so a purchaser gives them an offer they would take for the team.

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« Reply #231 on: August 15, 2025, 08:33:35 pm »
Season is 3/4s over

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« Reply #232 on: August 16, 2025, 04:05:17 pm »
Sunshine spin on the last point:

Let's assume the owners are just in it to drain as much cash as possible. If the team did find itself in a position with cornerstones of Wood, Crews, and Abrams in place along with Gore, Lord, and one other good SP among Cavalli et al, and perhaps another one or two relievers to form a reliable "bullpen A" with Ferrer and Henry, the might be good enough to make the owners think the best way to make money would be to invest in another mid-rotation guy and another position player who could move this team into playoff contention. That will drive up ticket revenue and the team's price so a purchaser gives them an offer they would take for the team.

The Lerners appear to want the team because they cannot think of anything better to do. Let someone like David Blitzer and his sports partner offer what the Lerners say they want, and, voom, our team would have new owners. The Nats might not generate more profits than other busuness; seems more like The Family is stuck in place. Spend little and break even.

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« Reply #233 on: August 16, 2025, 05:12:47 pm »
The Lerners appear to want the team because they cannot think of anything better to do. Let someone like David Blitzer and his sports partner offer what the Lerners say they want, and, voom, our team would have new owners. The Nats might not generate more profits than other busuness; seems more like The Family is stuck in place. Spend little and break even.
They want the team because it makes them money

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« Reply #234 on: August 17, 2025, 03:02:21 pm »
Split a 4 game series with the best team in the east, shut them out once, only outscored 19-16 over the 4 games.

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« Reply #235 on: August 17, 2025, 04:21:48 pm »
Magic number for wild card elimination is still 24. 

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« Reply #236 on: August 20, 2025, 01:09:32 pm »
The era of man crush busts is over.  Tyrannosaurus Rizzo has been wiped out like the meteor that killed the other dinosaurs.  Look at the guys DeBartolo has brought in - Sam Brown, Christian Franklin, Ethan Petry, Wyatt Henseler - they're all meeting expectations and they all know how to take a pitch.  It's been the same story every night with this team T. Rizzo put together - the opposing pitcher throws 30-50% fewer pitches than the Nat pitcher after 3-4 innings, which is also the result of Darnell Coles hitting approach.  I can't see how Coles sticks around with what is very clearly a new approach in the front office.  So far so good with Mike D.

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« Reply #237 on: August 20, 2025, 02:52:29 pm »
the opposing pitcher throws 30-50% fewer pitches than the Nat pitcher after 3-4 innings, which is also the result of Darnell Coles hitting approach.  I can't see how Coles sticks around with what is very clearly a new approach in the front office.  So far so good with Mike D.

You are beating a dead horse. There is no way Coles , Hickey , the 3B coach are retained. Maybe Blanco and Doolittle and to a lessor degree Parra. There were no replacements available and our MiLB manager and coaches are suspect due to the sloppy defense and base running blunders by those who came up through our system.

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« Reply #238 on: August 20, 2025, 03:33:14 pm »
You are beating a dead horse. There is no way Coles , Hickey , the 3B coach are retained. Maybe Blanco and Doolittle and to a lessor degree Parra. There were no replacements available and our MiLB manager and coaches are suspect due to the sloppy defense and base running blunders by those who came up through our system.

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« Reply #239 on: August 20, 2025, 06:42:10 pm »
You are beating a dead horse. There is no way Coles , Hickey , the 3B coach are retained. Maybe Blanco and Doolittle and to a lessor degree Parra. There were no replacements available and our MiLB manager and coaches are suspect due to the sloppy defense and base running blunders by those who came up through our system.

You're missing the point.  Not just about coaches being replaced, but Mike D. clearly taking a very different approach with the traits he's looking for in hitters than the dinosaur he replaced.

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« Reply #240 on: August 21, 2025, 06:51:12 am »
You're missing the point.  Not just about coaches being replaced, but Mike D. clearly taking a very different approach with the traits he's looking for in hitters than the dinosaur he replaced.

Not missing the point. I only disagree with what I highlighted from your post. I accept and agree that DeBartolo has made the correct moves and is abandoning Rizzos failed philosophy.

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« Reply #241 on: August 21, 2025, 09:07:14 am »
7-7 in the last 14

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« Reply #242 on: August 21, 2025, 11:17:18 am »
After years of playing useless veterans well into September, the Nationals today are fielding the youngest roster in baseball https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/rosters

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« Reply #243 on: August 21, 2025, 02:18:57 pm »
Brad Lord, probably best pitcher the org has drafted and developed in at least 10 years.

Attacks the zone, works quickly, pitches efficiently.  It's good entertaining baseball, so much better to watch than the brutal 25 pitch per inning slogs we get with Irvin, Parker, even Gore at times.  More Lord! 

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« Reply #244 on: August 21, 2025, 03:57:03 pm »
Man oh man, let Cade please stay healthy. Had written him off completely, but if he continues to play like this that changes our pitching future drastically. Oh and welcome back, Mr. Crews. Ultimate clubhouse guy and leader. He is going to go on a heater before the season ends, just a matter of time.

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« Reply #245 on: August 21, 2025, 04:41:39 pm »
Man oh man, let Cade please stay healthy. Had written him off completely, but if he continues to play like this that changes our pitching future drastically. Oh and welcome back, Mr. Crews. Ultimate clubhouse guy and leader. He is going to go on a heater before the season ends, just a matter of time.
I'd like to calculate their won-loss with and without Crews. Can't be that far off .500 with him. I think they missed his leadership big time when he was hurt.

 edit - IL'd on 5/21.  record was 22-27.  Returned 8/14, 3-3 going into today, so overall 25-30 (.455) while he was active. Not going to sort out days off. 51-75 overall, so 26-45 (.366) while on the IL.

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« Reply #246 on: August 22, 2025, 08:59:36 am »
4-3 vs Mets and Phillies

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« Reply #247 on: August 22, 2025, 09:23:50 am »
Nats are 23 under at 52-75. 35 games left. 19-16 matches the past 2 years but would feel different to me because of who is on the roster now. FWIW, they were 19 under with Crews on the IL and only 4 under with him on the active roster. I think he's a leadership key.

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« Reply #248 on: August 22, 2025, 10:49:18 am »
Crews starts every game in RF. Hassell should be CF, and Young, at most, a RH platoon. Wood and Lile share LF and DH. Bell/Chappy 1b, DeJong 2B, CJ and House. Adams and Millas should share the catching almost equally.

Garcia to the bench, since he is a mediocre fielder and DeJong out-hits him.

Next season? Re-sign Bell and DeJong. In Spring Training, let Franklin fight for a place. Look for a kid who wants to play hard at 2B, with Dejong as the utility guy, Could Tena field second?

Find the next Anibal for the rotation, as Parker either goes to the bullpen or gor to Rochester to work on whatever ails him. Susana starts the season in Rochester, with Bennett moving up doon. Let Clemmy settle into Harrisburg and, with improve,emt, move to Rochester in the second half. And hope that one of them can replace Irvin.

The reliever have looked better lately. Add some depth.

If the Lerners let the new GM clear out the clunkers from the coaching staffs, then the Nats could be watchable in '26.

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« Reply #249 on: August 22, 2025, 12:58:28 pm »
Crews starts every game in RF. Hassell should be CF, and Young, at most, a RH platoon. Wood and Lile share LF and DH. Bell/Chappy 1b, DeJong 2B, CJ and House. Adams and Millas should share the catching almost equally.

Garcia to the bench, since he is a mediocre fielder and DeJong out-hits him.

Next season? Re-sign Bell and DeJong. In Spring Training, let Franklin fight for a place. Look for a kid who wants to play hard at 2B, with Dejong as the utility guy, Could Tena field second?

Find the next Anibal for the rotation, as Parker either goes to the bullpen or gor to Rochester to work on whatever ails him. Susana starts the season in Rochester, with Bennett moving up doon. Let Clemmy settle into Harrisburg and, with improve,emt, move to Rochester in the second half. And hope that one of them can replace Irvin.

The reliever have looked better lately. Add some depth.

If the Lerners let the new GM clear out the clunkers from the coaching staffs, then the Nats could be watchable in '26.
If you convince yourself Crews and House are the real deal, you don't have to work to hard to figure out how next season could be a fun one. But I'm not going to try to guess without knowing who is running things.