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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2025, 04:24:09 pm »
other than he really didn't hit well at AA or AAA last year.
He OPS'd over .800 at Harrisburg. If he stays healthy, he should be called up after the deadline, if not sooner.

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Re: Answering our 3rd base prayers: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2025, 04:34:15 pm »
I don't think of "low-OPS infielder with questionable defense" as a hole on this team, on the contrary the Nationals already have a lot of guys who fit this description, many of whom earn the league minimum or close to it. Why sign one more?

Another Rizzo scratch-off ticket he hopes he can unload at the deadline

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2025, 05:07:38 pm »
He OPS'd over .800 at Harrisburg. If he stays healthy, he should be called up after the deadline, if not sooner.
not in 2024. .234 / .310 / .423.
Combining his 2 partial seasons its .767.
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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2025, 06:18:24 pm »
not in 2024. .234 / .310 / .423.
Combining his 2 partial seasons its .767.
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If you break down his Home/Away splits in Double A, he was an over .800 OPS at Harrisburg. It's why I said they should promote him. If the justification for promoting Crews was him hitting well away from the "pitchers park" that is Harrisburg, then House taking there justifies a bump.

He is starting in Triple A. He's big league ready by the deadline or he's a bust.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2025, 07:39:46 pm »
Honestly, I am a jury out guy on House.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2025, 06:52:16 pm »
Honestly, I am a jury out guy on House.

Which is fair.  But this is no more a solution to 3B than last year's $2 million lottery ticket, Nick Senzel.  Left-side infield defense looks ready to give up plenty of runs this year. 

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2025, 08:59:41 am »
Which is fair.  But this is no more a solution to 3B than last year's $2 million lottery ticket, Nick Senzel.  Left-side infield defense looks ready to give up plenty of runs this year. 
to me, the most intriguing guy still out there is Yoan Moncada. He is coming off an injury, but it was a left abductor muscle and he did make it back for a PA at the end of the year.  2023 he had a .260 /.305 / .425 line, which is kind of average but was a bounce back from a bad 2022 and is much better than anything we ran out at 3rd base the past few years. He started 2024 hitting well before the injury, but it was only 44 PAs. He'll be 30 in May, so he's not past prime age-wise. He hasn't played much second base, but came up as an MI and historically and recently has been an average to good defender and, thinking longer term, could shift there if needed.  Switch hitter with balanced career numbers but slightly more power hitting lefty.

He's not regarded as a premium FA and he's coming off a multi-year deal signed after 1 full season into his career that was an overpay by a lot. That said, I suspect he's looking for a pillow contract to reestablish his health and value, but that pillow probably should be in the mid-7 figures. I'd love it for the Nats to offer him a $5 million contract with a second year team option at $12 million and a $2 million buyout. My thought on the option is that,  if things go well and House / Wallace / Morales is ready to take over 3rd base, it opens the ability to deal LGJr. and have Moncada slide over to 2nd while Seaver King and Dickerson develop; we also would have Tena available for 2nd.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2025, 07:09:24 pm »
I remember when Ahmed Rosario was supoosed to be the Mets' answer to Trea T. He can't be that bad, although I think Vargas was much more valuable.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2025, 07:49:54 pm »
I'd be on board with signing Moncada.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2025, 11:53:28 pm »
I remember when Ahmed Rosario was supoosed to be the Mets' answer to Trea T. He can't be that bad, although I think Vargas was much more valuable.

He is a lot better than Vargas, which is not saying anything

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2025, 10:19:13 am »
Rosario and Gimenez were traded for Lindor, and initially Rosario performed the best of the 3.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2025, 07:57:47 pm »
He is a lot better than Vargas, which is not saying anything
He hasn't been the last two seasons.

One thing to remember, Rosario is a terrible defender at every position he's played at. He's a slightly better hitter

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2025, 11:37:06 pm »
He hasn't been the last two seasons.

One thing to remember, Rosario is a terrible defender at every position he's played at. He's a slightly better hitter

Vargas had one home run in 400 at bats

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2025, 09:00:07 am »
He cost $2 million.

Doesn't make much sense to me, but he can play multiple spots and someone has to sit on the bench and you'd rather him sitting than someone with a potential like Tena or Nunez. I'd prefer Vargas but the Nats clearly didn't.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2025, 09:43:22 am »
He cost $2 million.

Doesn't make much sense to me, but he can play multiple spots and someone has to sit on the bench and you'd rather him sitting than someone with a potential like Tena or Nunez. I'd prefer Vargas but the Nats clearly didn't.
We project to start 3 lefty hitters at 2d, SS, and 3rd. Getting someone in who hits righty and can back up those 3 spots was kind of a need. That's the logic. It's a move that favors O over D for a team that had big problems scoring runs.

I still hope there's another move coming at 3rd that is a better stop gap.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2025, 10:03:46 am »
We project to start 3 lefty hitters at 2d, SS, and 3rd. Getting someone in who hits righty and can back up those 3 spots was kind of a need. That's the logic. It's a move that favors O over D for a team that had big problems scoring runs.

I still hope there's another move coming at 3rd that is a better stop gap.
More I think about it more it makes sense. His numbers versus LHP are not terrible. And he can play all three OF positions in a pinch.

He is probably an ideal bench player for this team. Can play any position if there is some late game pinch run subs, could be used to spell any our IF against a tough LHP in a slump, and he costs so little that he can be punted if Lipscomb or Baker forces their way back up.

There's not a player in the starting IF or OF who Nats don't want playing every day. He shouldn't play much except injury if someone needs a day off. This is a "fine" signing. Not sure it's worth getting grumpy about the 25 or 26th man.

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Re: Our Next Vargas: Amed (not Eddie) Rosario
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2025, 10:09:45 am »
Absent another signing, I suspect that he's plays 3rd against all lefty starters except when he's filling in at 2d or SS.