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Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« on: January 05, 2025, 11:25:30 am »
I'm keeping these two in one thread because I believe they will be talked about as a pair for the foreseeable future. They both are needed to be franchise cornerstones.  Wood as a hitter already has shown in MLB tremendous power and an ability to work counts. Crews has not met with projections on his hitting, but has shown high level baserunning and D and an ability to deal with attention. I think it's fair to say that the lineup is dependent on these two becoming above average to all star level performers if the Nats are to contend any time over the next 5 years (their period of team control).

Linked is an article by Golden profiling their debuts, the attention they've gotten, the impression on teammates, and their approach to playing and the spotlight.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2025/01/01/james-wood-dylan-crews-nationals-2025/

Starts out talking about how Gallo sought out their autographs at the end of the year. Gallo had played with Judge, Stanton, Freeman, Trea Turner, Mookie, and grew up with Harper.

Gallo:
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“They’re special guys. They’re special players. … Not just talented, but guys who mean well and are good teammates as well,” Gallo said. “That’s what you want as the future of your team.”

Zimmerman compares the pressure he had at the start of his career to what these players face now:
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[Zimmerman] debuted before social media and prospect videos were easily accessible. Now, that accessibility creates expectations that high-profile prospects are often expected to quickly meet.

“A lot of these guys have been superstars since they were in high school,” Zimmerman said. “I think it kind of helps them that they’ve been dealing with it for so long. But I think it’s sort of unfair for a lot of these kids to have to deal with it as soon as they get here.”

Wood talks about being recognized in public, which started after his trade to the Nats. Teammates talk about how even-keeled he is with the attention and his approach to the game. Jacob Young:
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“A lot of times, if those guys don’t have the best attitude toward their work or anything like that, it can hurt the guys below them because they’ll look up, like, ‘I don’t need to work,’” Young said. “He’s not like that at all. He’s putting his head down. He focuses on the game, doesn’t focus on all the outside noise. It kind of just shows everyone else, ‘If he can do this with all the outside noise he has, we can do it, too.’”

Golden observes Crews giving out autographs during a rain delay before one of the final series. Crews talks about how he's gotten used to attention and tries to deal with it like other LSU stars like Bregman, Odell Beckham, and Shaq. He believes playing before 10-15 thousand a game got him used to attention.

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When Crews joined Class AAA Rochester, the media presence around the team shifted. Catcher Drew Millas called it “out of control” and said the fan excitement was higher than at any other time during his career. But the Nationals wanted to see how Crews handled all the hype.

“He was just another one of the guys,” Millas said. “He’s a great example for other guys that are watching. I couldn’t say enough good things about him, his work ethic and attitude.”
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Golden recaps the pluses and minuses of their debuts in terms of performance, then closes with quoting both of them on knowing they will grow together and have to push each other for the team's success.

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2025, 04:35:51 pm »
So, basically, we're wasting their first full season

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2025, 04:51:48 pm »
So, basically, we're wasting their first full season
I mean they’re still unproven anyway. If they were stars already the team would have a chance at the playoffs.

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2025, 06:06:27 pm »
I think a Crews RotY season and Wood near his projections could put this team in fringe wc contention late into the year

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2025, 06:08:17 pm »
So, basically, we're wasting their first full season

And there will only be five after that before they become Phillies or Mets. 


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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2025, 06:09:52 pm »
I think a Crews RotY season and Wood near his projections could put this team in fringe wc contention late into the year

I think Wood could beat his projections.  But after the trade deadline sales this team is likely to fall apart again. 

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2025, 06:11:27 pm »
Add Yoan Moncada plus at least one quality bullpen piece and I like the team's upside

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2025, 09:16:19 am »
Wood appears to me a bit 1-dimensional, albeit a great one in the hitting ability but not seeing a lot else in his game.

Crews worries me, he doesn't appear to do anything that I would qualify in the superstar 75-80 range... He also seems small but maybe that's in comparison to Wood. He doesn't impress me in RF, maybe he looks more natural back in CF?

As usual, I hope I'm wrong on both accounts...

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2025, 09:41:27 am »
Wood appears to me a bit 1-dimensional, albeit a great one in the hitting ability but not seeing a lot else in his game.

Crews worries me, he doesn't appear to do anything that I would qualify in the superstar 75-80 range... He also seems small but maybe that's in comparison to Wood. He doesn't impress me in RF, maybe he looks more natural back in CF?

As usual, I hope I'm wrong on both accounts...

I felt the complete opposite about Crews in the field. He looked great out there and I'm in favor of shifting him to CF to better take advantage of that and getting another corner outfield bat for RF (and I say this as a big Young fan). The underlying metrics liked him quite a bit too: 3 DRS and 3 OAA in only 270 innings in the field.

https://www.mlb.com/video/mitchell-parker-in-play-out-s-to-cristian-pache-ef5igr

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2025, 10:10:22 am »

Crews worries me, he doesn't appear to do anything that I would qualify in the superstar 75-80 range...

I believe he's going to become a perfectly serviceable MLB player with a respectable career resume'...pretty much another Lane Thomas but with a bigger bank account...

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2025, 12:01:23 pm »
I felt the complete opposite about Crews in the field. He looked great out there and I'm in favor of shifting him to CF to better take advantage of that and getting another corner outfield bat for RF (and I say this as a big Young fan). The underlying metrics liked him quite a bit too: 3 DRS and 3 OAA in only 270 innings in the field.

https://www.mlb.com/video/mitchell-parker-in-play-out-s-to-cristian-pache-ef5igr
This. Crews in CF, Santander in RF!

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2025, 10:35:45 am »
According to mlb.com, DC is going to be one of the small number of players that will 'define baseball in 2025'. No pressure there then, Dylan... ;)

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2025, 10:52:46 am »
Thanks for the link, JCA. Rooting for both of them this season, but as Slate mentioned, seems like the front office is bent on wasting their first full season, unfortunately.

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2025, 11:53:02 am »
Wood appears to me a bit 1-dimensional, albeit a great one in the hitting ability but not seeing a lot else in his game.

Crews worries me, he doesn't appear to do anything that I would qualify in the superstar 75-80 range... He also seems small but maybe that's in comparison to Wood. He doesn't impress me in RF, maybe he looks more natural back in CF?

As usual, I hope I'm wrong on both accounts...
Wood is a faster version of Adam Dunn or Joc Pederson.

Crews is Nick Markakis.

Neither of these guys are stats.

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2025, 01:59:28 pm »
Wood is a faster version of Adam Dunn or Joc Pederson.

Crews is Nick Markakis.

Neither of these guys are stats.

Crews has a better glove than Nick Markakis. Honestly if they both live up to those comps that would be a huge success.

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2025, 02:15:52 pm »
Crews has a better glove than Nick Markakis. Honestly if they both live up to those comps that would be a huge success.
Nothing wrong with two solid 3/4 WAR a year players.

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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2025, 03:09:12 pm »
Nothing wrong with two solid 3/4 WAR a year players.

I'd also quibble a bit in that I think Adam Dunn with speed would absolutely be a star.

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2025, 03:52:36 pm »
Nothing wrong with two solid 3/4 WAR a year players.
If you surround them with other 2-4 WAR players, sure.

But we havent

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2025, 05:03:08 pm »
If you surround them with other 2-4 WAR players, sure.

But we havent
CJ Abrams 3.4 bWAR
Luis Garcia 2.2 bWAR
Jacob Young 2.8 bWAR
Nathaniel Lowe 2.7 bWAR

Need Bell and whomever he splits DH with to have a decent year and 3B is the obvious hole. 

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2025, 05:17:23 pm »
CJ Abrams 3.4 bWAR
Luis Garcia 2.2 bWAR
Jacob Young 2.8 bWAR
Nathaniel Lowe 2.7 bWAR

Need Bell and whomever he splits DH with to have a decent year and 3B is the obvious hole.
And forgot C is a hole also.  Offense and defense. 


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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2025, 05:46:18 pm »
CJ Abrams 3.4 bWAR
Luis Garcia 2.2 bWAR
Jacob Young 2.8 bWAR
Nathaniel Lowe 2.7 bWAR

Need Bell and whomever he splits DH with to have a decent year and 3B is the obvious hole. 

So what you're saying is that we actually need Crews and Wood to be stars. So we're screwed.

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2025, 06:32:59 pm »
So what you're saying is that we actually need Crews and Wood to be stars. So we're screwed.
umm yeah, you need your top prospects to turn into stars if you want to be successful. If Crews and Wood turn out to be busts, this team is doomed.

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2025, 07:35:52 pm »
So what you're saying is that we actually need Crews and Wood to be stars. So we're screwed.
So proved you wrong and now shifting the goalposts. Maybe see how they do in their first full year before drawing career conclusions?

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2025, 08:47:21 pm »
umm yeah, you need your top prospects to turn into stars if you want to be successful. If Crews and Wood turn out to be busts, this team is doomed.

FIFY...

BTW, you should consider changing the tag line below your avatar...

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Re: Wood and Crews: 1st full season
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2025, 09:33:02 pm »
FIFY...

BTW, you should consider changing the tag line below your avatar...

FA period isn't over yet. We could still get Alonso and Santander. :couch: