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Re: Juan Soto, Free Agent
« Reply #100 on: December 01, 2024, 11:51:43 am »
The Lerners are just a pathetic ownership group without Ted. To not even be in this at all when your team is in the nations capital with a stadium you didn't have to pay for and to have basically nothing on your payroll is just embarrassing for baseball. There's no excuse for it anymore. Sell the team.

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« Reply #101 on: December 05, 2024, 09:32:29 am »
Lots of online chatter that Soto plans to sign during the GM meetings this weekend. Offers are reaching $600M per Rosenthal

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« Reply #102 on: December 05, 2024, 11:08:48 am »
Am I the only one who thinks "approaching 600 million" is low? I always assumed it would start at 600 million.

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« Reply #103 on: December 05, 2024, 11:53:12 am »
Am I the only one who thinks "approaching 600 million" is low? I always assumed it would start at 600 million.
Yes, it will be more with a few serious bidders.  Remember how when he had a slow start in 2023 some here said he wouldn't even get what the Nats offered? Comedy gold.    :hysterical:

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« Reply #104 on: December 05, 2024, 12:14:51 pm »
Am I the only one who thinks "approaching 600 million" is low? I always assumed it would start at 600 million.

$600 is $140 million more than anyone else has got.   I don't see it going much over 600 unless unless there is some deferred funny business.

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« Reply #105 on: December 05, 2024, 12:36:37 pm »
$600 is $140 million more than anyone else has got.   I don't see it going much over 600 unless unless there is some deferred funny business.
Ohtani got 10/$700M with most of it deferred.

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« Reply #106 on: December 05, 2024, 12:41:42 pm »
Ohtani got 10/$700M with most of it deferred.

700 is a fake number though.  $460 is the real value as a comparable with no deferrals.

600 with no deferrals is $140 more than Ohtani, and $240 more than Judge.  It's pretty tough to call that a low number!

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« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2024, 06:01:57 pm »
I'm ready for him to sign.  Let's break the logjam and get some hot stove action.

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« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2024, 08:51:27 pm »
There’s a rumor going around social media of 15/$745 with the Mets, with opt-outs. That would be something.

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« Reply #109 on: December 06, 2024, 08:53:07 pm »
 :shock:

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« Reply #110 on: December 06, 2024, 10:53:16 pm »

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« Reply #111 on: December 07, 2024, 11:37:32 am »
There’s a rumor going around social media of 15/$745 with the Mets, with opt-outs. That would be something.
nuts. just short of $50 million per year to age 40.

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« Reply #112 on: December 07, 2024, 12:45:08 pm »
nuts. just short of $50 million per year to age 40.

You had me at nuts...

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« Reply #113 on: December 07, 2024, 08:53:21 pm »
Gomez says the Mets offer is 15/$730

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« Reply #114 on: December 07, 2024, 09:00:21 pm »
Gomez says the Mets offer is 15/$730

Yankees also over $700M

https://nypost.com/2024/12/07/sports/yankees-mets-up-juan-soto-bids-north-of-700-million/
It’s all a bit fuzzy because you don’t know how much is being deferred and how long in these offers. One might look bigger in total but be worth less because of deferrals.

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« Reply #115 on: December 07, 2024, 09:01:34 pm »
I think he really wants Boston and Boras is just trying to squeeze an extra year out of them.

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« Reply #116 on: December 08, 2024, 08:42:10 am »
I think he really wants Boston and Boras is just trying to squeeze an extra year out of them.

That is where I would go if I had his skill set.

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« Reply #117 on: December 08, 2024, 09:50:14 am »
I think he stays with the Yankees if their offer is competitive. Last I saw is they were offering around $710M

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« Reply #118 on: December 08, 2024, 10:27:41 am »
I wonder how long it will be until we see a billion dollar contract. $700 million seems like a huge leap, but huge leaps have a way of becoming the norm in a few years

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« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2024, 12:26:25 pm »
I wonder how long it will be until we see a billion dollar contract. $700 million seems like a huge leap, but huge leaps have a way of becoming the norm in a few years
find the next guy who is young enough when hitting free agency and near the top of mlb performance. Trout had a blow away contract at the time.I don't know if there's a candidate now. Gunnar is too old. He may set the next record, but not $1 billion

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« Reply #120 on: December 08, 2024, 12:55:23 pm »
find the next guy who is young enough when hitting free agency and near the top of mlb performance. Trout had a blow away contract at the time.I don't know if there's a candidate now. Gunnar is too old. He may set the next record, but not $1 billion

Five years ago when Harper got $330 million, Soto wasn’t really on the horizon. Whoever pushes the number again probably isn’t now either

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« Reply #121 on: December 08, 2024, 12:59:47 pm »
find the next guy who is young enough when hitting free agency and near the top of mlb performance. Trout had a blow away contract at the time.I don't know if there's a candidate now. Gunnar is too old. He may set the next record, but not $1 billion
Soto had so many things go right to get to this point.   Youth, consistent mvpish performance, starring on the biggest stage and taking Yankees to the World Series, all of Yankees biggest rivals willing to spend like drunken sailors.   

If Soto had finished out his team control years in San Diego and didn't have an MVP season, he's probably looking at 400-500 million.

Whether someone gets to a billion depends on how long teams like the Mets are willing to spend irrationally.   

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« Reply #122 on: December 08, 2024, 01:25:22 pm »
Whether someone gets to a billion depends on how long teams like the Mets are willing to spend irrationally.   
any assumption about a billion dollar contract depends on continued growth in revenue. Monetizing streaming, general price of assets, cash flow, etc... Owner vanity, too. Too bad Musk, Bezos, Ellison, and the Walmart heirs aren't into baseball.

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« Reply #123 on: December 08, 2024, 01:37:16 pm »
 

If Soto had finished out his team control years in San Diego and didn't have an MVP season, he's probably looking at 400-500 million.


Don't think that's true ar all. He's being paid for his potential over the next 5-7 years.  That has not changed in several years. 

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« Reply #124 on: December 08, 2024, 04:37:53 pm »
any assumption about a billion dollar contract depends on continued growth in revenue. Monetizing streaming, general price of assets, cash flow, etc... Owner vanity, too. Too bad Musk, Bezos, Ellison, and the Walmart heirs aren't into baseball.
too bad the lerners can’t see the value of signing Soto.