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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2024, 11:52:57 am »
puts the CWS with Crochet and the Mariners with their stable in the catbird seat.
Seattle is interesting to me

Castillo is expensive and getting old. If it were me, he's the one I'd deal for even a mild haul. Take that money and go buy a hitter.

Kirby seems untouchable. I'd want so many great prospects in return for him. Bobby Witt Jr is the only 1 for 1 I'd even consider. Beyond that ... I can't think of anyone who would realistically build a package for me to even consider if I were the Mariners' GM. Like, I'd want Crews and Wood plus probably another. Maybe the Orioles would put Henderson in a package with Coby Mayo and a pitcher? Red Sox would have to include Anthony in the deal.

Miller seems like a ton of home park advantage.

Woo is always hurt. When he's healthy, he's a 1/2, but he never seems to stay healthy.

So that leaves Gilbert. He's pretty close to untouchable too. Is someone going to sell the farm for him? Are the Red Sox gonna do Wilyer Abreu, Marcello Mayer, and some sort of replacement like a Cooper Kriswell?

I wonder how this sets up the Marlins. If Luzardo and Alcantara are healthy at the deadline, I gotta think both get traded for a haul.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2024, 01:23:36 pm »
Seattle is interesting to me
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So that leaves Gilbert. He's pretty close to untouchable too. Is someone going to sell the farm for him? Are the Red Sox gonna do Wilyer Abreu, Marcello Mayer, and some sort of replacement like a Cooper Kriswell?

Were the Red Sox to sign Soto, then I could definitely see Abreu in deal, and Mayer might be available with Story under contract and even more SSs in lower minors.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2024, 09:49:39 pm »
If you’re going to take an idea from banana ball, go with the ability to steal first on a WP/PB, not this:
https://www.si.com/mlb/rob-manfred-buzz-golden-at-bat-rule-baseball

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2024, 11:25:12 pm »
If you’re going to take an idea from banana ball, go with the ability to steal first on a WP/PB, not this:
https://www.si.com/mlb/rob-manfred-buzz-golden-at-bat-rule-baseball

What a stoopid freakin' idea...

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2024, 07:53:28 am »
Willie Wonka rule.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2024, 08:38:01 am »
What a stoopid freakin' idea...
really would upset defensive strategy. Part of the game is figuring out who you want to pitch to different parts of the order. Offensively, a good chunk of strategy is when to pinch hit given who you have on your bench. I could see this rule inadvertently leading to teams playing weaker hitters / better defenders knowing that, if they come up in a big at bat, the big bopper can replace them. 

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2024, 11:22:49 am »
really would upset defensive strategy. Part of the game is figuring out who you want to pitch to different parts of the order. Offensively, a good chunk of strategy is when to pinch hit given who you have on your bench. I could see this rule inadvertently leading to teams playing weaker hitters / better defenders knowing that, if they come up in a big at bat, the big bopper can replace them. 
Worse than that, it would screw up scorebooks. :)

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2024, 11:54:14 am »
really would upset defensive strategy. Part of the game is figuring out who you want to pitch to different parts of the order. Offensively, a good chunk of strategy is when to pinch hit given who you have on your bench. I could see this rule inadvertently leading to teams playing weaker hitters / better defenders knowing that, if they come up in a big at bat, the big bopper can replace them.

If they do this, then the 3 batter rule for pitchers should not apply in this instance...there should also be a Golden Arm...

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2024, 07:19:53 pm »
So tempted to make a comment about mlb showers

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2024, 08:41:48 pm »
So tempted to make a comment about mlb showers

So, not what you meant, but did you know that the visitor's clubhouse at Wrigley Field only had 8 shower heads for the longest time.  It may to this day as far as I know.

It gave rise to the expression "hit the showers early" when a pitcher was pulled...

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2024, 08:39:57 am »
https://www.mlb.com/news/aroldis-chapman-red-sox-free-agent-deal

Reports of a 1 year, $10.75 million, pending a physical. Sox have backed out of or changed deals before based on physicals, so it's not quite a done deal.

This is interesting from a Nats perspective because it shows there are some short-term top performing closer / high lev guys available in the market for around $10 million and short commitments. This may mean guys like Yates are in the Nats price range. These guys are pretty clearly out-perform Finnegan and are worth what amounts to only a bit more of a commitment.


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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2024, 09:42:22 am »
https://www.mlb.com/news/aroldis-chapman-red-sox-free-agent-deal

Reports of a 1 year, $10.75 million, pending a physical. Sox have backed out of or changed deals before based on physicals, so it's not quite a done deal.

This is interesting from a Nats perspective because it shows there are some short-term top performing closer / high lev guys available in the market for around $10 million and short commitments. This may mean guys like Yates are in the Nats price range. These guys are pretty clearly out-perform Finnegan and are worth what amounts to only a bit more of a commitment.
Bonus if he can avoid wife beatings for the year?

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2024, 12:20:53 pm »
Bonus if he can avoid wife beatings for the year?

Didn’t beat her. Shot at her.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2024, 12:22:07 pm »
If you’re going to take an idea from banana ball, go with the ability to steal first on a WP/PB, not this:
https://www.si.com/mlb/rob-manfred-buzz-golden-at-bat-rule-baseball

Germany Schaefer, Washington Nationals, did it about 1913. Then MLB banned it, saying it brought the game to disgrace.

He had a reason. Wioth runners on first and thrid, it was standard for the runner on first to steal second, and for his team to send the runner from third if he drew a throw. The opponent refused to throw, so Germany stole first to set up the play again.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2024, 12:53:08 pm »
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1864727239813746875?s=46

Luis Severino to the Athletics. 3 years, 67 million

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2024, 12:57:52 pm »
Damn, not sure the Nats will offer a contract that large this off-season.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2024, 02:28:43 pm »
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1864727239813746875?s=46

Luis Severino to the Athletics. 3 years, 67 million

IP last 4 years: 6, 102, 89, 182.

Maybe Corbin is getting a major league contract?

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2024, 03:26:02 pm »
IP last 4 years: 6, 102, 89, 182.

Maybe Corbin is getting a major league contract?
He had a good year in 2024. They are taking a chance although could turn into a big overpay. Luckily with the Nats we don’t have to worry about overpays anymore

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2024, 05:22:30 pm »
Bieber back to the Guards.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2024, 05:33:38 pm »
Bieber back to the Guards.
good for them.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2024, 10:49:38 pm »
Mets sign RHP Clay Holmes, 3 years / $38 million with an opt-out after year 2.

32 years old. Two-time all star for the Yankees as a reliever (22 & 23) though Passan says the Mets intend to make him a starter. Lost the Yankees closer job this year to Luke Weaver.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2024, 05:26:51 pm »
Giants finally land a big one - Willy Adames, 7 years, $182 million, per Jeff Passan.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/giants-to-sign-willy-adames.html

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #73 on: December 08, 2024, 05:58:03 pm »
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/yankees-red-sox-dodgers-have-serious-interest-in-teoscar-hernandez.html

It looks like there are 5 teams pursuing the top 3 outfielders: NYY, NYM, BOS, LAD, and TBJs after Soto, Teoscar, and Santander. Article suggest the NYY have more of a need for an IF bat to replace Torres and Rizzo, but will have an OF hole if they lose Soto. Hernandez has said his preference is to go back to LAD, but has done well in Fenway and likes Cora. LAD is the lightest after Soto, supposedly. Hernandez is the BJs backup for Soto.

Just my spec, I think Soto comes off the board first, then Teoscar, then Santander. I think the NYY might pivot to Bregman if they can't get Soto, perhaps along with Walker.

Maybe . . . Soto to the Red Sox, Teoscar to LAD, Santander to the BJs, Alonso to the Mets, Bregman to the NYY.

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Re: 2024-25 Off-season (Non-Nats)
« Reply #74 on: December 08, 2024, 06:06:09 pm »
Tyler O'Neill is Santander's replacement in Baltimore. 3 years, $49.5 million.  That's close to the FG crowd source median of 3 years, $51 million.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/orioles-to-sign-tyler-oneill.html

Os also sign Gary Sanchez 1 year $8.5 million.

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/free-agent-tracker?sign=signed&pos=c