Lane Train Departs Nats

[Slateman]

If ownership doesn’t want to sign fan favorites long term such as Lane Thomas or a “five tool player” like Trea Turner, who the FLUCK WILL THEY SIGN??!!? Our ownership is a bunch of money grubbing azzholes!!!
I can’t imagine Mike Rizzo wanting to allow Trea Turner to leave here. It’s Official, our ownership is garbage! F-THEM!!!

We should be able to afford Lane next offseason. And Im okay with not giving Trea Turner 300+ million

[IanRubbish]

If ownership doesn’t want to sign fan favorites long term such as Lane Thomas or a “five tool player” like Trea Turner, who the FLUCK WILL THEY SIGN??!!? Our ownership is a bunch of money grubbing azzholes!!!
I can’t imagine Mike Rizzo wanting to allow Trea Turner to leave here. It’s Official, our ownership is garbage! F-THEM!!!

They’ve made it very clear they are penny pinching lowlifes.  But they feed off low expectations fans, so we need more attitudes like yours. This would never fly in any other larger market.

[nobleisthyname]

I do hope Cleveland gets great play out of him. It would vindicate Rizzo's "he's an every day outfielder" line and make it easier to deal in the future, plus I will always pull for Thomas unless it harms the Nats or Red Sox.

I'll 100% be rooting for Thomas wherever he ends up.

[Scrapple]

TBH, I don't mind them dealing a fan favorite if the package is good enough. Thomas was a DH for this team going forward.

Here’s the problem, now we have no arms in our outfield. Our opponents will turn games into a track meet running against those three arms. Our opponents will be instructed to go 1st to 3rd all day long no questions asked. The wrong guy is leaving here.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Thomas had an arm, true. He just could not get to balls that most outfielders get to.

When Crews is up, his arm will be fine, and he can get to balls.

[Count Walewski]

If ownership doesn’t want to sign fan favorites long term such as Lane Thomas or a “five tool player” like Trea Turner, who the FLUCK WILL THEY SIGN??!!? Our ownership is a bunch of money grubbing azzholes!!!
I can’t imagine Mike Rizzo wanting to allow Trea Turner to leave here. It’s Official, our ownership is garbage! F-THEM!!!

It's not who, it's win. It's pointless to sign a Trea Turner to a long-term contract when the team is heading into a rebuild.

[IanRubbish]

It's not who, it's win. It's pointless to sign a Trea Turner to a long-term contract when the team is heading into a rebuild.

There is no rebuild, there was a salary dump followed by endless miserable baseball.  "Rebuild" is Mini Me/Rizzo speak for "we're not spending".  Nats fans are like abused children, conditioned to accept whatever scraps they're fed.  This team would be far better off with Turner, Harper, Soto, and Schwarber, not to mention a real hitting coach in Kevin Long.  But instead of 25 games over like the Phillies, Nats fans are cheering that Mini Me has saved some pennies and nickels with 5 straight losing seasons.  Please stop buying into front office PR and have some expectations for this top 10 market franchise. 

[KV]

Gonna miss Lane, he’s been great for us. I’ll be rooting for him and the Guardians in the playoffs.

[Scrapple]

We should be able to afford Lane next offseason. And Im okay with not giving Trea Turner 300+ million

If you can’t give a “FIVE TOOL PLAYER” like Trea Turner $300 million that plays GREAT DEFENSE in the middle of the field with great poise and leadership to top it off, you shouldn’t be an owner in Major League Baseball. $300 million was a bargain for Turner. The Phillies have made our ownership look like a bunch of cheap bottom feeders.
 I do hope you are correct about signing Lane back next year but you can also wish in one hand and sh.. in the other and see which one fills up faster. 

[IanRubbish]

I do hope you are correct about signing Lane back next year but you can also wish in one hand and sh.. in the other and see which one fills up faster.

Lane is not coming back.  That would require a trade and paying what's probably $7-$8M in salary with just one year of team control.  Wish him well, but he's a Guardian next year, not a Nat.

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

They’ve made it very clear they are penny pinching lowlifes.  But they feed off low expectations fans, so we need more attitudes like yours. This would never fly in any other larger market.

I don't think most fans enjoy what the Lerners are doing. I can still love this team and want to watch them while fully understand ownership doesn't want to own the team. Doesn't make me a low expectation fan it just means I still want to watch my team.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

There is no rebuild, there was a salary dump followed by endless miserable baseball.  "Rebuild" is Mini Me/Rizzo speak for "we're not spending".  Nats fans are like abused children, conditioned to accept whatever scraps they're fed.  This team would be far better off with Turner, Harper, Soto, and Schwarber, not to mention a real hitting coach in Kevin Long.  But instead of 25 games over like the Phillies, Nats fans are cheering that Mini Me has saved some pennies and nickels with 5 straight losing seasons.  Please stop buying into front office PR and have some expectations for this top 10 market franchise. 

C'mon ... You aren't excited to watch Wood and Crews and don't want to see how Abrams develops?

I think the key point for your argument's credibility will be whether the money opens up once they have multiple spots on the roster filled internally. Then you see if they spend to augment that talent.

The first "rebuild" trade was Hand for Adams. That was 2 years ago today. It's not been perpetual treading water.

[edit - I can't read a calendar. 3 years, not 2]

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

If you can’t give a “FIVE TOOL PLAYER” like Trea Turner $300 million that plays GREAT DEFENSE in the middle of the field with great poise and leadership to top it off, you shouldn’t be an owner in Major League Baseball. $300 million was a bargain for Turner. The Phillies have made our ownership look like a bunch of cheap bottom feeders.
 I do hope you are correct about signing Lane back next year but you can also wish in one hand and sh.. in the other and see which one fills up faster. 

Its not even that they're cheap. They don't want the team anymore. They reluctantly kept it because nobody would meet their crazy asking price.

[Scrapple]

It's not who, it's win. It's pointless to sign a Trea Turner to a long-term contract when the team is heading into a rebuild.

It is if your ownership is cheap or a bunch of scumbags like us, the Marlins, Tigers, or White Sox. If it weren’t for Mike Rizzo’s wheeling and dealing and catching lightning in a bottle we’d be in the same class as the Oakland A’s and Kansas City Royals. What a horrible thing for loyal fans to go through. To lose a guy, a young guy like Trea Turner. Pathetic.

[tomwvr]

There is no rebuild, there was a salary dump followed by endless miserable baseball.  "Rebuild" is Mini Me/Rizzo speak for "we're not spending".  Nats fans are like abused children, conditioned to accept whatever scraps they're fed.  This team would be far better off with Turner, Harper, Soto, and Schwarber, not to mention a real hitting coach in Kevin Long.  But instead of 25 games over like the Phillies, Nats fans are cheering that Mini Me has saved some pennies and nickels with 5 straight losing seasons.  Please stop buying into front office PR and have some expectations for this top 10 market franchise.

You are correct. The learners only want to field a CHEAP team to rake in all the money from the fans - we are in the midst of a 20 year rebuild. Any time one of our "Prospects" starts playing well and getting near the end of a contract the team will trade them since they wont pay them. 

[IanRubbish]

The first "rebuild" trade was Hand for Adams. That was 2 years ago today. It's not been perpetual treading water.

The first salary dump this round was Keibert and Josiah Gray for Trea and Max in 2021, which came weeks after the team had still been competitive prior to the Schwarber injury.  Of course, the first salary dump soon after they bought the team was Livo for Matt Chico and Garrett Mock. 

There's not enough in the system.  I like James Wood a lot, and some of the other kids look promising, but there aren't enough of them to build a winning team.  Moreover, five straight losing seasons is fairly rare, and should have produced much more than it has.  This team is 28th in hard hit and BB rates, and OPS is down 30 points from last year.  That's not a rebuild, that's a serious problem that no one on South Capitol is discussing or will address. 

[varoadking]

C'mon ... You aren't excited to watch Wood and Crews and don't want to see how Abrams develops?

I think the key point for your argument's credibility will be whether the money opens up once they have multiple spots on the roster filled internally. Then you see if they spend to augment that talent.

The first "rebuild" trade was Hand for Adams. That was 2 years ago today. It's not been perpetual treading water.

They freaked up with the Strasburg extension and the Corbin signing, and they're still butthurt about those.  They aren't ever gonna spend big again.  We're cursed as long as the Lerner clan owns this team.

I'd like the Junkies to ask Rizzo when he expects to field a winning team again.  His answer would be like my answer to a quantum physics question:  "Uh."

They've no intention of winning...still having dave here is further evidence of that...

[JCA-CrystalCity]

The first salary dump this round was Keibert and Josiah Gray for Trea and Max in 2021, which came weeks after the team had still been competitive prior to the Schwarber injury. 

Yes, 2021, so 3 years. By current standards, there were a lot of bucks dropped among Schwarber, Lester, Hand too, but they were all 1 year guys. Harrison and Gomes also moved at that deadline.

[BigMeech]

I know it's a horse that has been beaten to death, but trading Trea and Max for Josiah and Keibert was legit an all time bad trade.  Anyone who played MLB The Show knew that Josiah and Keibert would be trash.  Both had all time bad Future Stars cards in Diamond Dynasty.  Josiah was BP in that game if you used him online 

[IanRubbish]

I'd like the Junkies to ask Rizzo when he expects to field a winning team again.  His answer would be like my answer to a quantum physics question:  "Uh."

I like the Junkies but their Rizzo interviews are painful.  They rarely challenge him, and when they barely question anything he gets incredibly defensive.  The DC media needs to start pressuring Rizzo, Davey, and ownership. 

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Young is having a 3 fWAR year (2 already) and he'll be surrounded by Crews and Wood in 2025. That, plus whatever CJ's defense problems have been, he hits. Garcia is a 2 fWAR second baseman. It's not unreasonable to say that those 5 guys will all be over 2 win guys and that 2 or 3 will be well above that. We went into this year with one position player projected above 2 WAR. It's hard to say this team will not be a substantially better position going into next year than they were going into this season.

[IanRubbish]

Yes, 2021, so 3 years. By current standards, there were a lot of bucks dropped among Schwarber, Lester, Hand too, but they were all 1 year guys. Harrison and Gomes also moved at that deadline.

They had to pay all of Hand's contract, including the deferrals.   But either way, this is not ok.  The salary dumping is not rebuilding and fans should not be so willing to accept it.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I know it's a horse that has been beaten to death, but trading Trea and Max for Josiah and Keibert was legit an all time bad trade.  Anyone who played MLB The Show knew that Josiah and Keibert would be trash.  Both had all time bad Future Stars cards in Diamond Dynasty.  Josiah was BP in that game if you used him online 

I don't disagree. That did not work out anywhere near a trade of that amount of talent should have brought back.

[varoadking]

I like the Junkies but their Rizzo interviews are painful.  They rarely challenge him, and when they barely question anything he gets incredibly defensive.  The DC media needs to start pressuring Rizzo, Davey, and ownership.

All softballs...and they won't pressure him because, as you mentioned, he gets all pissy and they don't want to lose their access...

I don't care for them and never have...they are a bunch of sophomoric frat boys...

[Slateman]

If you can’t give a “FIVE TOOL PLAYER” like Trea Turner $300 million that plays GREAT DEFENSE in the middle of the field with great poise and leadership to top it off, you shouldn’t be an owner in Major League Baseball. $300 million was a bargain for Turner. The Phillies have made our ownership look like a bunch of cheap bottom feeders.
 I do hope you are correct about signing Lane back next year but you can also wish in one hand and sh.. in the other and see which one fills up faster. 

Considering they got the same thing in CJ Abrams, no, he really isnt worth that money. Philly might get two good seasons out of Turner. And they'll probably swap him to 2B this offseason.

Harper and Soto were the ones to keep.