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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2025, 12:21:53 am »
Biggest trade ever?  Dallas morning news reports:

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The Mavericks are trading Luka Doncic, Maxi Kleber, and Markieff Morris to the Lakers for Anthony Davis, Max Christie and a 2029 first-round pick.

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- Lakers: Luka Doncic, Maxi Kleber, Markieff Morris

- Mavericks: Anthony Davis, Max Christie, 2029 LAL 1st

- Jazz: Jalen Hood-Schifino, 2025 Clippers 2nd, 2025 Mavericks 2nd

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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2025, 06:50:43 am »
Biggest I can think of

The conspiracy theories are great. I’m partial to the mavs tanking fan support so they can get away with a move to Vegas a la major league. I think the real reason is that the new owners are cheap real estate and casino guys who don’t care about winning and don’t want to pay a supermax.

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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2025, 07:40:58 am »
That’s just crazy. Why would the Mavs do that?

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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2025, 07:52:23 am »
They only got one pick for Luka. They must have know if the trade leaked before getting finalized, fan pressure would have killed it. The should have been able to get a massive haul for one of the three best players in the league. This is what happens when the development right around an arena dwarf the value of the actual team. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this blatant though

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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2025, 08:24:26 am »
ESPN says the Mavs were concerned with Luka’s conditioning and were reluctant to give him a five year super-max deal next year. He loses out on that with the trade.

Just seems like Dallas could have gotten so much more.

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2025, 08:25:14 am »
Well at least they still have Kyrie. And Daniel Gafford.  :hysterical:

I guess they figure they could not sign him long term but why?

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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2025, 08:26:48 am »
ESPN says the Mavs were concerned with Luka’s conditioning and were reluctant to give him a five year super-max deal next year. He loses out on that with the trade.
There’s been talk about that for years but they still made the Finals last year and he’s a great player. Sounds like they are going cheap. When does Davis contract end?

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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2025, 08:30:25 am »
ESPN says the Mavs were concerned with Luka’s conditioning and were reluctant to give him a five year super-max deal next year. He loses out on that with the trade.

They traded him for an older player with a worse injury history. This is the worst return for a superstar that I can remember

Edit, they are both under contract for two more years with a third year player option. Each year, Luka is about ~$10 million cheaper

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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2025, 11:02:26 am »
The real unanswered question is whether or not GataNats is a Lakers fan now.

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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2025, 11:07:32 am »
They only got one pick for Luka. They must have know if the trade leaked before getting finalized, fan pressure would have killed it. The should have been able to get a massive haul for one of the three best players in the league. This is what happens when the development right around an arena dwarf the value of the actual team. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this blatant though
It reminds me of Wilt traded for Darrell Imhoff, Archie Clark and the third guy I don’t remember.  He demanded a trade after they wouldn’t sign the coach and they panicked. They went from champions to 9-72 in like 5 years. Trading Chet Walker for Jim Washington helped achieve that also. Everyone forgets Jack Ramsey was the GM who destroyed the team because he became so beloved as the coach in Portland.

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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2025, 11:48:06 am »
What's Davis"s status now? hurt? Out for year?

For so long, every move Ainge did was to get into position to trade picks for Davis before he went to LA. That tells you how long he's been around

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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2025, 12:21:16 pm »
What's Davis"s status now? hurt? Out for year?

For so long, every move Ainge did was to get into position to trade picks for Davis before he went to LA. That tells you how long he's been around
Davis is expected back from an abdominal strain in the next week or so. Luka is due back after the all-star break.

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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2025, 12:26:52 pm »
Are there enough balls on the Lakers for Luka and LeBron?

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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2025, 01:04:26 pm »
Luka and Davis have similar usage rates. I think LeBron will be happy to have more ball handling duties removed from his plate

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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2025, 01:10:21 pm »
That’s just crazy. Why would the Mavs do that?

Do the Lerner's own the Mav's?

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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2025, 03:03:13 pm »
Davis is expected back from an abdominal strain in the next week or so. Luka is due back after the all-star break.
Davis will be hurt again after that.  And with no LeBron to pressure him will be missing lots of games..He does not really seem interested.

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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2025, 03:03:24 pm »
Do the Lerner's own the Mav's?
Good point. 

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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2025, 03:32:01 pm »
Davis will be hurt again after that.  And with no LeBron to pressure him will be missing lots of games..He does not really seem interested.
saw earlier he averages about the same number of games as Luka

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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2025, 03:55:04 pm »
I suppose Kyrie is happy (which would make me disappointed if I still let him occupy space in my mind).

To me, it's the Lakers now having their next focal point. Pretty remarkable about the succession they've had over the years. At least the Celts had a prolonged fall off from the Bird/Parish/ McHale era to the Pierce / Garnett / Allen team and then another strip down / rebuild to Tatum/Brown. The Lakers always seem to have a stud even when the record dips a bit.

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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2025, 04:11:29 pm »
What about Bronnie?  :)

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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2025, 04:17:08 pm »
I suppose Kyrie is happy (which would make me disappointed if I still let him occupy space in my mind).

To me, it's the Lakers now having their next focal point. Pretty remarkable about the succession they've had over the years. At least the Celts had a prolonged fall off from the Bird/Parish/ McHale era to the Pierce / Garnett / Allen team and then another strip down / rebuild to Tatum/Brown. The Lakers always seem to have a stud even when the record dips a bit.

Wilt to Kareem to Magic, to Shaq to Kobe to Lebron to Davis to Luka. That’s lack of parity that even the Dodgers would find over the top

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« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2025, 04:37:03 pm »
Only one title over the past 15 years though and that was in the bubble. They’ve wasted LeBron.

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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2025, 04:37:34 pm »
What about Bronnie?  :)
I’m surprised the Mavs didn’t ask for him in the trade.

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« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2025, 06:28:41 pm »
From Reddit

The Dallas Mavericks had a core of Luka Dončić, Jalen Brunson, and Kristaps Porzingis. All three now play for the most historic big market teams in the league: Lakers, Knicks and Celtics.

Have the Mavericks become the most notable “farm” team in the NBA after trading Luka Dončić to the Lakers?

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« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2025, 08:22:56 pm »
The NBA continues to be, by far, the best soap opera on TV. This Luka storyline is a shoe-in for a daytime Emmy.