Author Topic: 2024 MLB Trade Deadline (Read 17422 times)

IanRubbish · « **Reply #50 on:** July 14, 2024, 11:51:28 am »

Quote from: Slateman on July 13, 2024, 10:54:19 pm

Except Mike Rizzo is garbage at drafting

Have to share five words I often don't on this board - I agree 100% with Slate.

IanRubbish · « **Reply #51 on:** July 14, 2024, 11:57:46 am »

Quote from: nobleisthyname on July 13, 2024, 10:56:25 pm

Hopefully Haas will be picking now. Or at least exerting some influence.

Won't make a difference, plus Haas is Rizzo's boy going back to the D-backs. The only way this team does anything with a 39th pick is if they get a pitcher on whom Doolittle can work his magic. If Doolittle leaves to become an actual pitching coach with a normal team, this pick will be the next Elijah Green/Mason Denaburg/Erick Fedde, etc at best.

SkinsNatFan21RIP · « **Reply #52 on:** July 14, 2024, 12:35:31 pm »

Sigh. Can we have anything positive lol. Good lord

nobleisthyname · « **Reply #53 on:** July 14, 2024, 01:12:10 pm »

Quote from: IanRubbish on July 14, 2024, 11:57:46 am

Won't make a difference, plus Haas is Rizzo's boy going back to the D-backs. The only way this team does anything with a 39th pick is if they get a pitcher on whom Doolittle can work his magic. If Doolittle leaves to become an actual pitching coach with a normal team, this pick will be the next Elijah Green/Mason Denaburg/Erick Fedde, etc at best.

The test will be the 10th overall pick. If they take Griffin that suggests not much will have changed. If they don't then that's a sign things are different now.

Edit: And is Haas actually a Rizzo boy? He didn't join the D-backs until 2019 and was with the Orioles and Red Sox before that.

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #54 on:** July 14, 2024, 01:15:33 pm »

Wallace slots in as our #6 prospect.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/nationals

imref · « **Reply #55 on:** July 14, 2024, 01:31:00 pm »

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on July 14, 2024, 01:15:33 pm

Wallace slots in as our #6 prospect.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/nationals

check out The Farm

Count Walewski · « **Reply #56 on:** July 14, 2024, 03:26:08 pm »

3B is a huge hole for the Nats and while neither Wallace nor the other contenders impress me that much, it's good to have some more options and competition for the 3B of the future role. Great trade. Can't wait to see what we get for Finnegan.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #57 on:** July 14, 2024, 04:55:39 pm »

Quote from: IanRubbish on July 14, 2024, 11:51:28 am

Have to share five words I often don't on this board - I agree 100% with Slate.

that's twice in a day. He also pushed for picking up Yepez when he was a FA this offseason (along with me).

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #58 on:** July 14, 2024, 04:58:36 pm »

Quote from: Count Walewski on July 14, 2024, 03:26:08 pm

3B is a huge hole for the Nats and while neither Wallace nor the other contenders impress me that much, it's good to have some more options and competition for the 3B of the future role. Great trade. Can't wait to see what we get for Finnegan.

if you go by MLB.com, then 3 out of our top 6 prospects play 3rd, counting Morales.

imref · « **Reply #59 on:** July 14, 2024, 05:51:29 pm »

House will be our 3B

Slateman · « **Reply #60 on:** July 14, 2024, 05:52:29 pm »

Quote from: nobleisthyname on July 14, 2024, 01:12:10 pm

The test will be the 10th overall pick. If they take Griffin that suggests not much will have changed. If they don't then that's a sign things are different now.

Edit: And is Haas actually a Rizzo boy? He didn't join the D-backs until 2019 and was with the Orioles and Red Sox before that.

They met when Haas was a player and Rizzo was a scout with the Red Sox. But Haas has never worked for Rizzo until now.

Slateman · « **Reply #61 on:** July 14, 2024, 05:55:14 pm »

Quote from: nobleisthyname on July 14, 2024, 01:12:10 pm

The test will be the 10th overall pick. If they take Griffin that suggests not much will have changed. If they don't then that's a sign things are different now.

Edit: And is Haas actually a Rizzo boy? He didn't join the D-backs until 2019 and was with the Orioles and Red Sox before that.

What do you mean "not much has changed?" Rizzo has taken a HSer twice in the first round.

nobleisthyname · « **Reply #62 on:** July 14, 2024, 06:42:21 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on July 14, 2024, 05:55:14 pm

What do you mean "not much has changed?" Rizzo has taken a HSer one time in the first round.

Going for raw stuff/tools over all else.

Slateman · « **Reply #63 on:** July 14, 2024, 06:45:56 pm »

Quote from: nobleisthyname on July 14, 2024, 06:42:21 pm

Going for raw stuff/tools over all else.

Over what else? College is basically A ball. All they have is tools/raw stuff.

nobleisthyname · « **Reply #64 on:** July 14, 2024, 06:59:19 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on July 14, 2024, 06:45:56 pm

Over what else? College is basically A ball. All they have is tools/raw stuff.

It's not my idea. The prototypical pitcher build that emphasizes size and stuff that Rizzo favors has basically become a meme at this point.

Smithian · « **Reply #65 on:** July 14, 2024, 07:28:42 pm »

Heck of a trade on Harvey. No complaints. More than I expected.

GataNats · « **Reply #66 on:** July 14, 2024, 11:18:52 pm »

Quote from: Count Walewski on July 14, 2024, 03:26:08 pm

3B is a huge hole for the Nats and while neither Wallace nor the other contenders impress me that much, it's good to have some more options and competition for the 3B of the future role. Great trade. Can't wait to see what we get for Finnegan.

House will be an AS

Slateman · « **Reply #67 on:** July 15, 2024, 12:36:46 pm »

Clay Holmes leads MLB in blown saves. Time to take advantage.

Finnegan for Lalane and Jesus Rodriguez

sixthree175 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 16, 2024, 02:18:53 am »

If Finnegan goes, who closes for the Nats in 2025? Don't we expect the Nats to be competitive next year? How does a team compete without a reliable closer?

Looking back on 2018, it now looks like the stupidest of all decisions to keep Harper past the trade deadline. What were they thinking?

I've been saying SELL SELL SELL, but I'm surprised there is almost universal agreement on WNFF that the Nats should be sellers. Isn't there a remote possibility that the team could catch fire?

nobleisthyname · « **Reply #69 on:** July 16, 2024, 08:00:45 am »

Quote from: sixthree175 on July 16, 2024, 02:18:53 am

If Finnegan goes, who closes for the Nats in 2025? Don't we expect the Nats to be competitive next year? How does a team compete without a reliable closer?

A bullpen is the easiest part of a roster to construct. It makes sense to pull from if you have other holes in the roster that are more important and harder to fill. Both Finnegan and Harvey were no names when the Nats scooped them up.

Quote from: sixthree175 on July 16, 2024, 02:18:53 am

I've been saying SELL SELL SELL, but I'm surprised there is almost universal agreement on WNFF that the Nats should be sellers. Isn't there a remote possibility that the team could catch fire?

Fangraphs has them at 0.2% chance to make the playoffs. So it's a possibility but probably not enough of a one to decide not to sell.

machpost · « **Reply #70 on:** July 16, 2024, 09:09:40 am »

If they trade Finnegan before tonight's All-Star Game, would he appear in his new team's uniform?

imref · « **Reply #71 on:** July 16, 2024, 11:40:09 am »

It's always going to be about the return. If they get a good offer on Finnegan then you absolutely trade him and worry about filling his shoes next year. But I don't think Rizzo is in any hurry to make a deal. Same for Thomas.

Smithian · « **Reply #72 on:** July 16, 2024, 11:41:58 am »

Quote from: imref on July 16, 2024, 11:40:09 am

It's always going to be about the return. If they get a good offer on Finnegan then you absolutely trade him and worry about filling his shoes next year. But I don't think Rizzo is in any hurry to make a deal. Same for Thomas.

That's where I'm at. I'm fine moving Finnegan, but with team control for another year I'm fine rolling with him.

The past few seasons I've been "SELL EVERYTHING" and now I've transitioned to, "This opening day roster next year may be fun!"

CoryTheFormerExposFan · « **Reply #73 on:** July 16, 2024, 06:54:24 pm »

If we can get anywhere near the same return for Finnegan as Harvey, you absolutely move him. There should be no problem getting an acceptable return.

If Rizzo insists on Lane being treated as a solid everyday OF, then the return won’t be there. He’s awful against RH pitchers, so he’s a platoon guy on a contender that shouldn’t play much against RH. If the offers are terrible, then just hang onto him next year since we could use a bride to Hassell or Lile and allow Young to be a 4th OF with Crews in CF.

Winker and Floro you take what you can get. I think Law has another year of control, so maybe you just keep him.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #74 on:** July 16, 2024, 08:56:14 pm »

Quote from: CoryTheFormerExposFan on July 16, 2024, 06:54:24 pm

I think Law has another year of control, so maybe you just keep him.

Good catch. It's not been talked about much. It would annoy GataNats no end.

JBarnes and Floro are FAs next year.

The rest have at least 1 more year of control (Finnegan, Rainey just one, Weems 3).