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Re: 2024 MLB Trade Deadline
« Reply #100 on: July 20, 2024, 03:36:27 pm »
Law is trash.   No reason not to trade him for anything

Trash?  No, he had a 3.60 ERA in 55 innings in 2023 and a 3.32 ERA this year in 57 innings already.  He’s a solid middle reliever.  If we can get any prospect back we like at all I’d move him, but it’s not like you just completely give him away when he can be one of your middle inning guys next year at a reasonable price.

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« Reply #101 on: July 24, 2024, 11:37:41 am »
Gotta think Thomas' days are numbered given how well Crews is playing at AAA (9 game hit streak, .921 OPS). I assume the team wants to keep Young in CF.

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« Reply #102 on: July 24, 2024, 11:53:45 am »
Gotta think Thomas' days are numbered given how well Crews is playing at AAA (9 game hit streak, .921 OPS). I assume the team wants to keep Young in CF.
I just don't think it is a smart move to call him up right at the trade deadline, regardless of whether Thomas and Winker are dealt. Letting him play at AAA until 8/20 gives him 2 months at Rochester and a chance to consolidate some as opposed to being bumped up at the first sign of success. That's even before considering the draft bonus for RotY. Of course it is not guaranteed, but the only guarantee you have about that pick is Crews can't qualify for it unless he has rookie status. 40ish days in MLB, 5+ weeks, is a good enough taste going into the offseason. Pick #31 or #32 in the 1st round is valuable.

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« Reply #103 on: July 24, 2024, 12:11:28 pm »
I just don't think it is a smart move to call him up right at the trade deadline, regardless of whether Thomas and Winker are dealt. Letting him play at AAA until 8/20 gives him 2 months at Rochester and a chance to consolidate some as opposed to being bumped up at the first sign of success. That's even before considering the draft bonus for RotY. Of course it is not guaranteed, but the only guarantee you have about that pick is Crews can't qualify for it unless he has rookie status. 40ish days in MLB, 5+ weeks, is a good enough taste going into the offseason. Pick #31 or #32 in the 1st round is valuable.
The RoY stuff is pointless compared to preparing for next year and a playoff push.

Crews needed to be here two weeks ago. As we are seeing with Wood, Triple A serves no purpose in preparing hitters for big league pitching.

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« Reply #104 on: July 24, 2024, 02:15:07 pm »
Gotta think Thomas' days are numbered given how well Crews is playing at AAA (9 game hit streak, .921 OPS). I assume the team wants to keep Young in CF.

I don’t think Crews has much to do with Thomas.  Trading Thomas, like Finnegan, is about trading in a short-term piece controlled through next season for a long-term piece that fits the competitive window with this young core.

I believe the Nats have to push Young to a 4th OF next year.  Wood and Crews can’t yet be expected to carry an offense.  The Nats need to add an impact corner OF bat (as well as 1B/DH).  I don’t think you worry about “blocking” Hassell, Lile, etc in coming years either.  There’s the potential to use the DH if you have an overflow, or you trade Hassell/Lile down the line if they prove ready but are blocked.

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« Reply #105 on: July 24, 2024, 02:48:14 pm »
Kind of interesting to think that if they trade Thomas, Young would be the oldest guy in the OF at 24.

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« Reply #106 on: July 24, 2024, 03:32:54 pm »
Kind of interesting to think that if they trade Thomas, Young would be the oldest guy in the OF at 24.
Maybe Gallo will play the OF when he returns from his, checks notes, oh, never mind.

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« Reply #107 on: July 24, 2024, 06:10:13 pm »
It will be interesting to see the updated Nats top prospects list after the deadline acquisitions and 2024 draft picks are added.



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« Reply #110 on: July 24, 2024, 11:01:45 pm »
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/07/phillies-showing-interest-in-lane-thomas-kyle-finnegan.html

I do prefer what Lane and Finnegan could bring back in a package versus what they’d bring back in separate trades.

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« Reply #111 on: July 25, 2024, 10:29:00 am »
Come on man. Do we really need to watch all of our players suit up for the Phillies? I'd almost rather get nothing for them over sending them to Philly.

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« Reply #112 on: July 25, 2024, 10:58:16 am »
Come on man. Do we really need to watch all of our players suit up for the Phillies? I'd almost rather get nothing for them over sending them to Philly.
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« Reply #113 on: July 25, 2024, 11:11:29 am »
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/07/phillies-showing-interest-in-lane-thomas-kyle-finnegan.html
tbh, I think Floro &  Winker may be a more doable deal with the Phillies than Finny and Thomas.

Winker could platoon with Castellanos, which the article said is another option they are looking at rather than a Marsh platoon with a righty batter. If Rizzo truly thinks Thomas is a full-time outfielder, then I think it'd be hard to have a meeting of the minds on his value, especially with the extra year of control.

As for Floro vs Finny, I just have memories of homers off Finny in CBP in the past. Maybe they are hallucination. I'm not sure they want him for 2025, too, given their depth. It's more an injury crunch and effectiveness right now. Floro's groundball style I think works well in CBP, and he'd be cheaper than Finny. With a price for Winker and Floro much cheaper than one for Thomas and Finnegan, I think the Phillies would be more willing to trade lesser prospects within the division.

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« Reply #114 on: July 25, 2024, 11:23:09 am »
tbh, I think Floro &  Winker may be a more doable deal with the Phillies than Finny and Thomas.

Winker could platoon with Castellanos, which the article said is another option they are looking at rather than a Marsh platoon with a righty batter. If Rizzo truly thinks Thomas is a full-time outfielder, then I think it'd be hard to have a meeting of the minds on his value, especially with the extra year of control.

As for Floro vs Finny, I just have memories of homers off Finny in CBP in the past. Maybe they are hallucination. I'm not sure they want him for 2025, too, given their depth. It's more an injury crunch and effectiveness right now. Floro's groundball style I think works well in CBP, and he'd be cheaper than Finny. With a price for Winker and Floro much cheaper than one for Thomas and Finnegan, I think the Phillies would be more willing to trade lesser prospects within the division.
Marsh has been terrible against lefties and that is what they are looking for.  They have a heavy lineup of lefties and need another righty bat. Think that’s what they are looking for. Obviously the price would be cheaper for Winker and Floro.

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« Reply #115 on: July 25, 2024, 11:26:14 am »
Come on man. Do we really need to watch all of our players suit up for the Phillies?
Now we know how A's fans once felt.

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« Reply #116 on: July 25, 2024, 11:34:19 am »
Marsh has been terrible against lefties and that is what they are looking for.  They have a heavy lineup of lefties and need another righty bat. Think that’s what they are looking for. Obviously the price would be cheaper for Winker and Floro.
Right. They specifically need a right handed outfielder and can who can play CF.

Unless the Phillies are willing to part with Caba or Miller, I dont see a deal here

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« Reply #117 on: July 25, 2024, 11:34:40 am »
Marsh has been terrible against lefties and that is what they are looking for.  They have a heavy lineup of lefties and need another righty bat. Think that’s what they are looking for. Obviously the price would be cheaper for Winker and Floro.
I was a little surprised when MLBTR mentioned a platoon for Castellanos, too.

Can you see the Phillies paying Rizzo's price for Thomas? I mean, they are looking at an NLCS/WS run with their roster improvements, so yes, that's a go for it move. Also, TBH, if they meet Rizzo's price, perhaps they do view him as a borderline guy that could be used vs. RHP in right some of the time.

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« Reply #118 on: July 25, 2024, 11:39:48 am »
Mick Abel for Thomas & Finnegan?

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« Reply #119 on: July 25, 2024, 02:50:05 pm »
Painful isn’t it! 🤔😤🤬🤯

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« Reply #120 on: July 25, 2024, 02:59:14 pm »
The Orioles bullpen just blew a 6-0 lead, seems like Finnegan would be a good fit.

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« Reply #121 on: July 25, 2024, 05:57:22 pm »
There is no question Finnegan will draw plenty of interest.  Of course Rizzo doesn’t have to trade him with another year of control, but I think it’s extremely likely a deal is done.

There definitely will be interest in Winker and Floro, and even if Rizzo doesn’t love the deals out there, there’s no sense in keeping them.

Lane is the most interesting one.  Contenders are only upgrading if they use him as a short-side corner OF platoon.  That simply isn’t going to garner a huge return. Maybe if a team sees upside in him as a full-time player in 2025?

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« Reply #122 on: July 26, 2024, 07:44:16 am »
https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1816648124925944219

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Full deal:

Arizona Diamondbacks receive: left-handed reliever A.J. Puk.

Miami Marlins receive: CIF Deyvison De Los Santos and CF Andrew Pintar.

Deal is done. Diamondbacks get the bullpen arm they've been seeking.

And trade season is officially on

Damn, gotta wonder if Rizzo is wondering if he should have held out Harvey for more

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« Reply #123 on: July 26, 2024, 07:46:53 am »
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1816697460074459147?s=46&t=ZpD6oFkPugLq14adK16nMw

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Seattle Mariners receive: outfielder Randy Arozarena

Tampa Bay Rays receive: outfielder Aidan Smith, right-hander Brody Hopkins and a player to be named last.

Seems light. Maybe Arozarena is just viewed as a slightly above average hitter in LF,  but he still has two years of control after this

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« Reply #124 on: July 26, 2024, 08:34:16 am »
https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1816648124925944219

Damn, gotta wonder if Rizzo is wondering if he should have held out Harvey for more

https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1816697460074459147?s=46&t=ZpD6oFkPugLq14adK16nMw

Seems light. Maybe Arozarena is just viewed as a slightly above average hitter in LF,  but he still has two years of control after this

This tells me Finnegan has to be traded if that's the market for relievers this trade deadline and also Thomas isn't going to be worth much of anything in a trade.