The Nunez Dilemma - Should he stay or should he go?

[Scrapple]

Bring up Darren Baker. DFA Nunez. Baker is not as fast in a stright-line as Nunez, but baseball is not track and field. Baker is a good baserunner.

I would say Nunez has a very good chance at being DFAed after making an azz out of himself, the 3rd base coach, and the entire organization after that dumb base running mistake. If he doesn’t know what “SEE THE BALL DOWN” means at this stage of his career, he should be DFAed. Bye-bye! 👋🏻👋🏻

[rileyn]

I would say Nunez has a very good chance at being DFAed after making an azz out of himself, the 3rd base coach, and the entire organization after that dumb base running mistake. If he doesn’t know what “SEE THE BALL DOWN” means at this stage of his career, he should be DFAed. Bye-bye! 👋🏻👋🏻

Davey said in the postgame that Nunez was running on contact and wrote it off as just being unlucky.

[Scrapple]

Davey said in the postgame that Nunez was running on contact and wrote it off as just being unlucky.

Really???????? if that’s true, Davey should be fired.

In that situation the 3rd base coach reiterates to the runner, “SEE THE BALL DOWN”! Which means, go if you see the batted ball hit the ground. Anything hit in the air or on a line (line-drive) you are moving back to the base.

If Davey really did say that in the postgame press conference he should be fired and it would explain why this team is horrendous with fundamentals and their knowledge of the game.

[Five Banners]

Davey said in the postgame that Nunez was running on contact and wrote it off as just being unlucky.

Maybe plan holders can give ticket reps a similar explanation for why they’re not re-upping. “I meant to keep throwing time and money at this team, but Oopsie, that’s just the way it goes sometimes.”

[Slateman]

Davey said in the postgame that Nunez was running on contact and wrote it off as just being unlucky.

Really???????? if that’s true, Davey should be fired.

Davey is just covering for his player.

[Scrapple]

Davey is just covering for his player.

If he was covering for his player he should have said, “it was a bad mistake that we will talk about and fix immediately “. If Davey said, “the kid was instructed to go on contact”, he should be fired.

[Slateman]

If he was covering for his player he should have said, “it was a bad mistake that we will talk about and fix immediately “. If Davey said, “the kid was instructed to go on contact”, he should be fired.

I dont think you understand what "covering" means.

If thats how your friends cover for you, then your friends are blue falcons.

[welch]

Davey is just covering for his player.

Slate the voice of common sense. A manager will almost never criticize a player -- in public -- for a brainless play.

DFA Nunez and bring up a player who can be useful from the bench. Likewise, get rid of Jordan Weems. The Nats are running as they try to carry Rainey and Weems...dead weight.

[Slateman]

Slate the voice of common sense. A manager will almost never criticize a player -- in public -- for a brainless play.

DFA Nunez and bring up a player who can be useful from the bench. Likewise, get rid of Jordan Weems. The Nats are running as they try to carry Rainey and Weems...dead weight.

Yep. If a manager is criticizing a player, then that player is a star or that player has already been removed from the roster.

Still would rather see Lipscomb play in Triple A. Preferably at shortstop.

[Scrapple]

I dont think you understand what "covering" means.

If thats how your friends cover for you, then your friends are blue falcons.

That’s not covering for the player, that’s admitting we’re all a bunch of dumb azzes on this side of the field so don’t single him out.
With the way our guys get picked off the bases, throw to the wrong bag, and pitchers that give up huge meaningful runs on 0-2 counts with 2 twos, I truly believe our coaching staff may have told the kid to go on contract. Our club is young and needs a manager in place that is strong on fundamentals. Maybe it’s time for Davey to go.

[aspenbubba]

No one is commenting lately on Nunez being a wasted roster spot including me. It seems that Rizzo saw something in this kid that had potential. It may not ever come to fruition that he is a bonafide MLB player but right now he is proving all of us wrong. If we all knew as much about baseball as we profess we would be working for a team in some capacity rather than going to our mundane 9-5 jobs. I’m not putting anyone down as I’m as guilty as anyone.

[imref]

No one is commenting lately on Nunez being a wasted roster spot including me. It seems that Rizzo saw something in this kid that had potential. It may not ever come to fruition that he is a bonafide MLB player but right now he is proving all of us wrong. If we all knew as much about baseball as we profess we would be working for a team in some capacity rather than going to our mundane 9-5 jobs. I’m not putting anyone down as I’m as guilty as anyone.

I was at yesterday's game and he looked very slick at SS. He didn't look lost at the plate either.

This why Rizzo gets paid the big bucks.

[Smithian]

No one is commenting lately on Nunez being a wasted roster spot including me. It seems that Rizzo saw something in this kid that had potential. It may not ever come to fruition that he is a bonafide MLB player but right now he is proving all of us wrong. If we all knew as much about baseball as we profess we would be working for a team in some capacity rather than going to our mundane 9-5 jobs. I’m not putting anyone down as I’m as guilty as anyone.

No, I still think he is a wasted roster spot. Even if he is no likely to be on roster next year, we have numerous infielders I'd rather over him when we have an every day SS.

[IanRubbish]

No, I still think he is a wasted roster spot. Even if he is no likely to be on roster next year, we have numerous infielders I'd rather over him when we have an every day SS.

Absolutely.  Next year he'll be a 24 yo minor leaguer who's missed most of the previous season.

[KV]

No one is commenting lately on Nunez being a wasted roster spot including me. It seems that Rizzo saw something in this kid that had potential. It may not ever come to fruition that he is a bonafide MLB player but right now he is proving all of us wrong. If we all knew as much about baseball as we profess we would be working for a team in some capacity rather than going to our mundane 9-5 jobs. I’m not putting anyone down as I’m as guilty as anyone.

I mentioned this in yesterday’s game thread.  He had a nice couple of games….I’m starting to understand why they want to hang on to him.

[Smithian]

Absolutely.  Next year he'll be a 24 yo minor leaguer who's missed most of the previous season.

I would actually be really intrigued if Nasim Nunez was in Rochester and moving all around the diamond and was hitting his weight. This season is bad for everyone.

I thought there was some upside for him as maybe a defensive CF but Jacob Young has that role locked down for a while. I thought he may make noise, but Garcia is hitting well and Vargas has acted as his backup.

I wish Vargas had been traded for a bag of peanuts at deadline so we could see if Nunez could move around a bit but nope.

[Natsinpwc]

I would actually be really intrigued if Nasim Nunez was in Rochester and moving all around the diamond and was hitting his weight. This season is bad for everyone.

I thought there was some upside for him as maybe a defensive CF but Jacob Young has that role locked down for a while. I thought he may make noise, but Garcia is hitting well and Vargas has acted as his backup.

I wish Vargas had been traded for a bag of peanuts at deadline so we could see if Nunez could move around a bit but nope.

He can play Rochester next season. I mean the team was not going anywhere anyway and he’s not blocking another infielder.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

He can play Rochester next season. I mean the team was not going anywhere anyway and he’s not blocking another infielder.

Jack Dunn, Jake Alu, Jackson Cluff . . . and Alu can't play SS. The kid has MLB defense at the toughest position and has outstanding speed. It's nice he put in a couple of good ABs. Maybe the time with Coles has helped him ( ). If he ends up on a shuttle for a year as an injury replacement, that's good. We have 3 options.

[IanRubbish]

I wish Vargas had been traded for a bag of peanuts at deadline so we could see if Nunez could move around a bit but nope.

Usually a SS can play 3B and 2B, but not vice versa.  Nunez was picked up because of his combination of high BB/K and speed, which led to strong OBPs and many stolen bases...in High A and AA.  But his ISO was lower than Jacob Young's in the minors   Many players who get seriously injured at his age struggle to make it back, 23/24 year olds need to play at whatever level they're at, baseball is a game of repetition.  Spending a season on the bench like he has will add significant challenges for his further development.   He's had 28 PAs all year and turns 24 next week. 

I get the intent of bringing him over, but it feels like a bargain bin attempt to make up for all the weak drafts.  The optimistic scenario is he works his way back next year in Rochester, but his bat is what's been keeping him out of the lineup, not his glove.

[imref]

He probably starts the year as a MI in Rochester as depth for Abrams and Garcia. I'd still like to see Baker get a shot in the Vargas role.

[Elvir Ovcina]

Usually a SS can play 3B and 2B, but not vice versa.  Nunez was picked up because of his combination of high BB/K and speed, which led to strong OBPs and many stolen bases...in High A and AA.  But his ISO was lower than Jacob Young's in the minors   Many players who get seriously injured at his age struggle to make it back, 23/24 year olds need to play at whatever level they're at, baseball is a game of repetition.  Spending a season on the bench like he has will add significant challenges for his further development.   He's had 28 PAs all year and turns 24 next week. 

I get the intent of bringing him over, but it feels like a bargain bin attempt to make up for all the weak drafts.  The optimistic scenario is he works his way back next year in Rochester, but his bat is what's been keeping him out of the lineup, not his glove.

He's here to be minors depth from next year.  He has three option years and plays SS.  They had nobody who could play SS and wouldn't need to be on the 26 man next year, and his Rule 5 year was the cost of buying 3 years of that.

[nobleisthyname]

He probably starts the year as a MI in Rochester as depth for Abrams and Garcia. I'd still like to see Baker get a shot in the Vargas role.

I'd like to see Baker at some point too just so he can call himself a major leaguer, but he can't play 3B or SS like Vargas can.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I get the intent of bringing him over, but it feels like a bargain bin attempt to make up for all the weak drafts.  The optimistic scenario is he works his way back next year in Rochester, but his bat is what's been keeping him out of the lineup, not his glove.

I also think Abrams's and Garcia's development led to Nunez getting fewer opportunities than they thought when they drafted him.

[Elvir Ovcina]

I also think Abrams's and Garcia's development led to Nunez getting fewer opportunities than they thought when they drafted him.

Senzel's suckitude and injuries were a big factor.  He was hurt to open the season and then bad enough that they needed someone else ready yesterday to play his position and take his at bats, which meant Vargas got another year when that may not have been the plan.  Two utility infielders is a logjam, and that's not counting whatever Senzel pretends to be.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Senzel's suckitude and injuries were a big factor.  He was hurt to open the season and then bad enough that they needed someone else ready yesterday to play his position and take his at bats, which meant Vargas got another year when that may not have been the plan.  Two utility infielders is a logjam, and that's not counting whatever Senzel pretends to be.

had Senzel hit like Winker, then perhaps the lineup could have carried more playing time for Nunez, is what you are saying. I buy that, too.