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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #175: August 04, 2024, 10:19:42 AM »
Can the Nationals keep winning against the Tigers? No. Although they staked George Mogridge to a 2-0 lead in the first, he could not hold it. The bullpen did not help, either. Detroit wallops Washington, 8-3. Ken Holloway, off to a good start with the Tigers, went all nine innings.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET192408020.shtml

The Senators started well, as Sam Rice singled and, with two outs, Goose Goslin tripled to that deep CF. Joe Judge singled, scoring Goslin, to give the Nats a 2-0 lead.

Mogridge held the lead into the sixth. The Griffmen were not getting much, and Detroit squandered a chance in the second when, with to on and two out, Del Pratt was thrown out trying to steal third.

Detroit did not squander their chance in the fourth. Ty Cobb doubled and Harry Heilmann singled for their first run: Washington 2, Detroit 1.

The Nats' lead fell to pieces in the sixth. Topper Rigney walked, Ty Cobb singled. You can't shut down Cobb. Harry Helimann singled, scoring Rigney; Bucky replaced Mogridge with rookie Byron Speece. Del Pratt greeted Speece with a single that scored Cobb. Heinie Manush singled, scoring Heilmann and moving Pratt to third. Next up, Johnny Bassler, and Bassler singled, scoring Pratt. Tigers got 4 runs on 5 hits. They now led 5-2.

Washington got a run back in the 8th on a couple of walks and a pair of sac flies. 5-3, Detroit. Washington replaced Speece after Wid Matthews had pinch-hit for the rookie. However, Alan Russel's spitter was not working that day. Pratt singled, Manush singled, and Johnny Bassler doubled to left, scoring Pratt and Manush. Holloway, Detroit's pitcher, singled, pushing Bassler to third, and Bob Jones scored Bassler with a sac fly.

The Browns beat Sad Sam Jones and the Yankees today, so the Senators lost no ground to them, while Detroit moved up by a game.

New York: 58-44
Washington: 57-44
Detroit: 56-44

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/index.fcgi?year=1924&month=08&day=02
 


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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #176: August 04, 2024, 11:26:40 AM »
Can the Nationals keep winning against the Tigers? No. Although they staked George Mogridge to a 2-0 lead in the first, he could not hold it. The bullpen did not help, either. Detroit wallops Washington, 8-3. Ken Holloway, off to a good start with the Tigers, went all nine innings.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET192408020.shtml

The Senators started well, as Sam Rice singled and, with two outs, Goose Goslin tripled to that deep CF. Joe Judge singled, scoring Goslin, to give the Nats a 2-0 lead.

Mogridge held the lead into the sixth. The Griffmen were not getting much, and Detroit squandered a chance in the second when, with to on and two out, Del Pratt was thrown out trying to steal third.

Detroit did not squander their chance in the fourth. Ty Cobb doubled and Harry Heilmann singled for their first run: Washington 2, Detroit 1.

The Nats' lead fell to pieces in the sixth. Topper Rigney walked, Ty Cobb singled. You can't shut down Cobb. Harry Helimann singled, scoring Rigney; Bucky replaced Mogridge with rookie Byron Speece. Del Pratt greeted Speece with a single that scored Cobb. Heinie Manush singled, scoring Heilmann and moving Pratt to third. Next up, Johnny Bassler, and Bassler singled, scoring Pratt. Tigers got 4 runs on 5 hits. They now led 5-2.

Washington got a run back in the 8th on a couple of walks and a pair of sac flies. 5-3, Detroit. Washington replaced Speece after Wid Matthews had pinch-hit for the rookie. However, Alan Russel's spitter was not working that day. Pratt singled, Manush singled, and Johnny Bassler doubled to left, scoring Pratt and Manush. Holloway, Detroit's pitcher, singled, pushing Bassler to third, and Bob Jones scored Bassler with a sac fly.

The Browns beat Sad Sam Jones and the Yankees today, so the Senators lost no ground to them, while Detroit moved up by a game.

New York: 58-44
Washington: 57-44
Detroit: 56-44

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/index.fcgi?year=1924&month=08&day=02
 



It’s interesting to also hear about some of the other teams and stars of that era in this ongoing recap.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #177: August 04, 2024, 12:05:25 PM »
It’s interesting to also hear about some of the other teams and stars of that era in this ongoing recap.

I already knew some of the famous stars, like Heilmann. It has been fascinating, though, to look up some of the others, checking on them in Baseball Reference. And then SABR biographies linked in BR.

For iinstance, SABR says that Allen Russell was one of the pitchers "grandfathered" after the no-spitball rule came in. Pitchers like Russell, who had thrown the spitter were allowed to continue throwing it. He threw side-arm, Babe Ruth, or, more likely, his ghost-writer, put it this way: “Allan Russell, the old-time Yankee pitcher who was later with the Washington Senators, was the most successful side-arm spitball pitcher I ever knew. Allan could break the spitter where he wanted it and since he threw it with the same sweeping side-arm motion with which he delivered his fast ball, it was doubly hard to gauge.”

And here is a bit of baseball writer prose from that era. No they don't make 'em like that anymore.

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A likely young busher named Allan Russell, from Richmond, snuffed all the brilliance out of the Chicago stars. He held the Sox to six hits and struck out eight. In the ninth inning when the Sox had two on, nobody out, and visions of launching a rally, he struck out Happy Felsch, Shano Collins, and Eddie Collins in succession. Young Russell isn’t very big, but he was cool as a fresh gallon of ice cream…. The lad is going to make a big rep for himself next season

That was the New York Times account of Russell's first start, a win over the White Sox in 1915.


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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #178: August 04, 2024, 08:22:52 PM »

The Nats took an overnight train from Detroit to St. Louis to begin a five-game series against the 4th place Browns. That Sunday, August 3, 18,000 fans paid their way into t Sportsman's Park. Maybe the Griffs were still asleep, losing 3-1. Curly Ogden, pitched well again, but  Washington could not put hits together against Dixie Davis.

Here is Sportsman's Park, as drawn for us by Andy Clem: http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/SportsmansPark.html#diag

Some photos: https://www.sportsmansparkstlouis.com/

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLA/SLA192408030.shtml

In the bottom of the third, Jack Tobin singled to LF and Joe Evans bunted him to second. Then Gorgeous George Sisler, future Hall of Famer, father of Phillies star Dick and future Expansion Senators reliever Dave, scored Tobin on a single to CF. Yes, Nats broadcasters, in 1961, mentioned George Sisler whenever Dave pitched.

Ogden and Sam Rice singled in the top of the fifth, but there were two outs and Nemo Leibold grounded out.

The Nats got a couple more hits in the top of the 7th, but Harris grounded out to 3B Gene Robertson, and Goose Goslin flied out to Baby Doll Jaconson in CF. Lightning and thunder struck in the bottom half, when Marty McManus homered deep to LF with a runner on, making it 3-0, St Louis. Washington finally scored in the 8th, when Joe Judge homered to deep RF, but that was all.

The Tigers beat the Yankees, so Detroit, New York, and Washignton kept themselves bunched at the top of the AL, with the Senators a 1/2 game behind Detroit and New York.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #179: August 05, 2024, 01:04:42 PM »
The Nats need a bounce-back game against the Browns, don't they? Otherwise, the Tigers and Yankees will pull far ahead. Of course, maybe Washington is "predestinated" to finish third or fourth or even lower. Baseball writers have predicted that the Nationals are a second division team, as always, so maybe...

Bucky Harris picked Firpo Marberry, his relief ace, and his other relievers, By Speece and Allen Russell to stop St. Louis.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLA/SLA192408040.shtml

They didn't. On Monday, August 4th, 1924, in front of about 10,000 Browns fans, St. Louis took the Washingtons 5-1. The Browns are five games over .500, and they have their own ideas of which teams should finish in the first division. By the '50s, when I grew old enough to become a Nats fan, teams in the first division got bonus money. Maybe it was that way in the 1920s.

The Griffs were getting nothing off of Browns starter, rookie Ernie Wingard. In the bottom of the second, unfortunately, Baby Doll Jacobson slashed a line-drive to left, just beyond Sam Peckinpaugh at SS and just in front of Goose Goslin. Gene Robertson followed with a double to left, pushing Jacobson to third. After Hank Severeid hit a popfly to Goslin in left, Wally Gerber singled to center, scoring Jacobson and Robertson. Firpo settled, then, to get Wingard, the pitcher, and Jack Tobin, the RF.

Marberry and Wingard pitched goose-eggs in the third, and the Nats got a run in the 4th, on a single, a double, and three successive groundouts.

In the 5th, Jacobson led off with another single, and Robertson followed with another double. Then catcher Hank Severeid lined deep to CF Nemo Leibold, scoring Jacobson. Firpo got the next two batters, on a popup and a groundout.

In the 6th, Harris sent Pink Hargrave to pinch-hit for Marberry, but Washington still went down in order. However, By Speece gave up a run in the bottom half. Jack Tobin cracked a double to lead off, and Marty McManus singled to left, making it 4-1, St. Louis.

Later, the Nats got a couple of singles, but no runs, in the 8th; the Browns replied by knocking in their 5th run on a walk, a sac bunt, and a single.

I can imagine Bucky giving a pep-talk to his Nats: forget the heat, lets take the next three from these guys, go up to Chicago and sweep, go home happy.

In the standings, however:

1. NYY: 59-45
2. DET: 57-45...1 game back
3. WSH: 57-46...1 1/2 games back. Luckily for the Griffmen, the Yankees and Tigers are playing each other
4. SLB: 52-47...4 1/2 back.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/index.fcgi?year=1924&month=08&day=04


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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #180: August 05, 2024, 01:10:11 PM »
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... teams in the first division got bonus money. Maybe it was that way in the 1920s.

In 1923, 4th place Washington was out of luck as the bonus money only went down to 3rd place.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #181: August 05, 2024, 01:51:06 PM »
In 1923, 4th place Washington was out of luck as the bonus money only went down to 3rd place.

Ah. too bad. I remember in 1960 that the Nats were a solid 4th place team, and Shirley Povich or Bob Addie talked about bonus money. Then the Senators had to shut down Camilo Pascual, who had hurt his shoulder when Boston's Pete Runnels charged the mound and jumped on Pascual's throwing shoulder. Runnels had been a Washington veteran, and star, and Camilo's teammate for several years.

However, a Boston picher had hit Washington's fine new catcher, Earl Battey, in the head. Pascual plunked Runnels in the next inning, so both teams brawled.

[It is covered in David Gough's "They've Stolen Our Team", p. 71, and I have a mistaken memory from that game. Camilo had thrown a fastball under Pete's chin and the two "exchanged insults at 60 paces". players swarmed the field to keep Runnels and Pascual from each other, and Pascual had hurt his arm try to break loose.

I was right that it began when a Boston pitcher -- turns out it was ex-Yankee Tom Sturdevant -- beaned our Earl Battey. Our catcher wound up in the hospital over-night, but his batting helmet must have given him some protection. Gough mentions that Jim Lemon began wearing a batting helment with ear flaps, along the lines of what I was wearing right then on my Lewisdale Boys Club team. Must have been closer to what current players wear.


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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #182: August 06, 2024, 11:53:56 AM »

On Tuesday, August 5th, Washington played a double-header against the Browns. The Nats need a win. Paul Zahniser started and pitched a great game, a 4-hit complete game, but the St. Louis starter, Urban Shocker, pitched a 3-hit shutout. Sam Rice got two hits and old Roger Peckinpaugh, Nats SS, got the other. On the scoreboard, the Senators got goose-eggs as St. Louis won it 2-0.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLA/SLA192408051.shtml

Zahniser carried a no-hitter into the 5th, when Browns catcher, Hank Severeid, popped a double to left-center. St. Louis SS Wally Gerber drove him in with a line-drive single to LF. In the 6th, the Browns picked up another run on a single to CF by Joe Evans, followed by a geound-rule double by "Gorgeous George" Sisler. Marty McManus scored Evans with a long sac fly to left.

That was it. Zahniser gave up no more hits, and Bucky Harris tried two pinch-hitters in the 9th, but got nothing more than a chance to cheer as Sam Rice -- not pinch-hitting -- doubled with two outs.

I'll post the standings after the second game. But it does not look good for the Nats.


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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #183: August 06, 2024, 12:39:39 PM »
In the second game, 20,000 happily watched the Browns' Dave Danforth beat Washington, 4-2. The Nationals got some hits, but not enough at the right time.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLA/SLA192408052.shtml

Bucky Harris put ("Sparkplug") Wid Mathews in CF, as Nemo Leibold sat, and Mathews got a single to follow leadoff hitter Sam Rice's groundout. Bucky singled, so the Nats had two on with one out. Unfortunately, Good Goslin popped out to catcher Hank Severeid, and Muddy Ruel flied out to CF Baby Doll Jaconson. Yes, the box and the play-by-play calls him "Baby Doll", but he was a "Baby Doll" with a punch. Right now, William Chester Jacobson is batting 5th and playing CF for the Browns, as he slugs .545 with an OPS of .910, and a batting average of .323. He played 11 seasons, from 1915 through 1927, and most of them with the Browns. In the retro WAR states, he picked up about 28 WAR.

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A big, hulking 6-foot-3, 215-pound outfielder named Baby Doll?  There has to be a story behind that nickname.  More than one, as it happens, though they overlap. The story out of Jacobson’s own mouth is probably the right one. In his obituary, The Sporting News quoted him: “Everybody called me Bill until that day in Mobile. It was opening day and a band was playing. Just before the first pitch, they struck up ‘Oh, You Beautiful Doll,’ a popular song at the time. Well, I led off with a homer on the first pitch and a lady sitting behind the plate jumped up and shouted: ‘You must be that beautiful doll they were talking about.’ The name stuck with me and that was it.” 1 The next day’s Mobile Register ran his photograph with the caption “That Baby Doll.”2

That's the lead paragraph from his SABR bio, at https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/baby-doll-jacobson/

The Griffs tied the score in the third, when Sam Rice doubled and Wid Mathews drove him in. That bright spot was rubbed out in the bottom half when St. Louis took the lead again. Just one run, but the Browns accumulated four of this one-run innings. Wally Gerber singled to CF, and pitcher Dave Danforth advanced him with a bunt. Jack Tobin singled, scoring Gerber...just as the strategy books wrote it up.

In the 5th, Joe Evans doubled to drive in a third run: 3-1 Browns.

In the 6th, Marty McManus led off with a single to Goose Goslin in left. What do you think Baby Doll Jacobson did? Yes, slugging Bill bunted...but Muddy Ruel could not make the play, so Baby Doll was safe on the error and McManus took second. A groundout advanced the runners to second and third with one out. Hank Severeid drove in McManus with a single, but Wid Mathews threw out Jacabson at home. Muddy Ruel got him this time, but the score was now 4-1.

Bucky Harris pulled Tom Zachary for a pinch-hitter in the 7th, but Pinky Hargrave grounded out. Again. Firpo Marberry replaced Zachary, and pitched well enough. In the 8th, Marty McManus doubled and, again, Baby Doll Jacobson tried to advance him with a sacrifice bunt. This time, 1B Joe Judged fielded the bunt and threw to Bucky covering first. McManus on third with one out, but this time nobody scored. Robertson lined out to Sam Rice in RF, but the drive was not deep enough to score McManus. Also, remember that Clark Griffith got Sam Rice as a pitcher; Sam had a strong arm, even though he was not a good pitcher.

In the 9th, Joe Judge homered over that RF wall, but Judge's run only made the score look more respectable.

So, what do the standings say after Griff's men lost the double-header?

1. Yankees: 60-48. New York beat Detroit 9-2.
2. Tigers: 57-46 and 2 games back
3. Senators: 57-48, 3 gameas behind

4. Browns: 54-47 and a game behind Washington.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #184: August 07, 2024, 09:43:49 PM »
After losing the double-header to St. Louis, and two more games before that, it was time for the sparky Nats to bounce back on Wednesday, August 6. It was time, but they lost again, 6-5, making it five losses to the Browns. Add that last game in Detroit, and Washington has lost six in a row.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLA/SLA192408060.shtml

Washington started their veteran slabman, George Mogridge, who should have been more than a match for the Browns' Dixie Davis, but errors and a lack of timely hitting made the difference. Bucky Harris's team picked up three runs in the late innings to make it close, but close only counts in horeshoes, as everyone says.

Bucky juggled the batting order slightly, sending Sam Rice up third and moving Nemo Leibold, from second to leadoff and himself from third to second. It seemed to work in the first inning, as Bucky, Sam, and Goose Goslin singled for a run. However, Joe Judge grounded back top the pitcher and Ossie Bluege popped back to the catcher, suggesting that Washington's lineup was stacked at the top, but weaker from the 6th-8th spots.

Even more unfortuntely, the Browns jumped on Mogridge for four runs in the bottom of the first. Mogridge walked the first two batters before George Sisler reached on an error by Harris, allowing Jack Tobin to score an unearned run. Marty McManus singled, scoring Joe Evans. With runners now on first and third and nobody out, Baby Doll Jacobson, of course, bunted. Why have Bill Jacobson bunt? Player-manager George Sisler probably would have answered, "That's a standard decision. Play for the run. Move the runners up. Let the next guys get the hits". And it worked: Gene Robertson lined out to Bucky Harris at second, but Hank Severeid huit a line-drive single to left, scoring Sisler and McManus. "Just how we planned it", Sisler would have said.

Trailing 4-1, Mogridge and the Senators settled down.

The Browns picked up a run in the fourth after pitcher Dixie Davis singled, scoring Hank Severeid. The Nats got one back in the fifth. The Browns got another in the sixth , when Baby Doll Jacobson cracked a solo home run to deep LF.

Washington got a pair of runs in the 8th on back-to-back doubles by Joe Judge and the heretofore missing Ossie Bluege, and another in the 9th on a pair of doubles by Wide Mathews and Nemo Leibold, but the rally died. Bucky Harries bunted Leibold to third. Sam Rice grounded to 2B Marty McManus, and Leibold was out at home, but with Rice going all the way to third. Maybe Sam Rice was much faster than Leibold? Goose Goslin grounded out, and the Nats have now built a seven-game losing streak.

Today, the Tigers beat the Yankees, 5-2, Earl Whitehill over Bullet Joe Bush, so neither New York nor Detroit have gained much, overall. Even so, the Griffmen have fallen.

1. NYY: 60-46
2. DET: 58-46, 1 game behind
3. SLB: 55-47, 3 games behind the Yankees, and with hope after their sweep of the Nationals
4. WSH: 57-49, 3 1/2 games behind.



https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/index.fcgi?year=1924&month=08&day=06

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #185: August 07, 2024, 09:50:57 PM »
Those Browns should move to Baltimore.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #186: August 08, 2024, 01:19:25 PM »
Those Browns should move to Baltimore.

I read a book called "Twilight Teams" about the last years of teams that moved in the '50s. Braves, Browns, A's, Nats, best I remember. Bill Veeck ("as in Wreck") wanted to move the Brows west, to Kansas City. He would aim his radio broadcast back to St. Louis to keep Browns fans attached. The AL, or MLB overall, blocked him, because owners wanted him out of baseball. They felt that he was bringing dishonor to the proud reputation of baseball but such stunts as hiring Eddie Gaedel as a pinch-hitter, or by the all-time most imaginative stunt of Grandstand Managers Night. That was when fans got to vote on tactical moves, such as "remove the pitcher?" Best I remember, the Yankees owned the minor league team in KC and they refused to give up the territory. Since Veeck couldn't move the Browns, he was forced to sell to the Beer Barons of Bush League Baltimore.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #187: August 08, 2024, 01:53:20 PM »
Having lost all five games to the Browns, now having lost six in a row and falled 3 1/2 games behind the Yankees and Tigers, a battered Nationals team took the roughly six-hour train ride to Chicago for a series against the Pale Hose. A team still struggling to rebuild itself from the 1919 Black Sox disaster. And the first game went well, on Thursday, August 7, 1924.

:w: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA192408070.shtml

Here is a photo of Comiskey Park toward the end of its service

The White Sox played in Comiskey Park, a big place that held about 50,000 fans. It was a generous 455 foot to straightaway CF, 365 feet down the lines, and about 395 feet to left-center and right-center. See http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/ComiskeyPark.html#diag

Here is a photo of Comiskey Park toward the end of its service: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/comiskey-park-history-photos-and-more-of-the-chicago-white-sox-former-ballpark--290834088447410633/

Having ridden the train, probably an Illinois Central liner, to Chicago, Bucky Harris decided that the team should ride the Big Train out of its slump. And he did, carrying the Nats through ten innings. Harris had held Johnson out of the series in St. Louis because St. Louis was enduring its typical hot and humid summer. I have been wondering why Johnson had not pitched, so, just this once, I sneaked a peak at Gary Sarnoff's brilliant "Team of Destiny". Gary says that Harris had looked at the pleasant weather in St. Louis, pleasant, that is, until the Senators arrived. Bucky did not want to wear down "Barney".

The Nats scored three in the tenth to win it. We don't know how many pitches Johnson threw, but it must have been so many that a modern manager would shriek "His arm's going to fall off". In fact, Mike Martin, Washington's trainer, said that Walter Johnson threw with such an easy motion that he could pitch until he was fifty.

Walter Johnson was nicknamed "Barney" as well as "the Big Train". Why Barney? I haven't looked it up, but, best I remember, Johnson was driving with his friend, Ty Cobb, to Navin Field in Detroit, when Johnson got pulled over for speeding. Cobb told the policeman, "Don't you know this is Barney Oldfield? He doesn't know how to drive slow". [Oldfield was a famous race-car driver and showman]

The Griffmen got a run in the first in classic fashion. Nemo Leibold led off with a walk, and Bucky got him to second on a sacrifice bunt. Washington loaded the bases as Sam Rice singled on a grounder that SS Bill Barret snagged on the OF grass. Leibold made third, but cautiosly stopped there. With one out, Goose Goslin walked to load the bases. Joe Judge hit a fly to right that scored Leibold, but the rally died when the next batter, Ossie Bluege, flied out. 1-0, Washington.

The score stayed 1-0 until the sixth, when Ossie Bluege homered to deep LF. Nats 2, ChiSox 0.

Unfortunately, it did not last.

In the bottom half, Harry Hooper doubled to left, more or less. The play-by-play reads "Double to LF (Deep 3B)". The next batter, Eddie Collins, doubled down the LF line, scoring Hooper. Collins, as I might have mentioned the last time Chicago played the Senators, was Chicago's 2B and player-manager. He hit .319 for the 1919 White Sox, but only .226 in that World Series. He was elected to the Hall of Fame 1in 1939. In 1924, he was 37, but still led the AL in stolen bases, and hit .349 with an OPS of .849.

Because today's game, 100 years later, is in rain-delay, maybe this is a good time to read about Eddier Collins in his SABR bio.

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An excellent place-hitter, slick fielder, and brainy baserunner, Eddie Collins epitomized the style of play that made the Deadball Era unique. At the plate, the 5-foot-9, 175-pound left-handed batter possessed a sharp batting eye, and aimed to hit outside pitches to the opposite field and trick deliveries back through the box. Once on base, Collins was a master at stealing, even though his foot speed wasn’t particularly noteworthy. A believer in the principle that a runner steals off the pitcher and not the catcher, Collins practiced the art of studying pitchers – how they held the ball for certain pitches, how they looked off runners, all the pitcher’s moves. He focused especially on the feet and hips of the pitcher, rather than just his hands, and thus was able to take large leads off first base and get excellent jumps.

Lou Gehrig was not the first Columbia University man to star in the majors, nor was Gehrig the first Columbia Lion elected to the Hall of Fame. Collins beat him to it. https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/Eddie-Collins/

Back to Comiskey Park and our game. With Collins on leading off second base, Johnson struck out 1B Earl Sheely. Now with two out, Barney intentionally walked Cicago's best hitter, LF Bib Falk, to get to ,250-hitting Willie Kamm. That makes sense, because Falk was hitting .382 with .538 SLG, and a .978 OPS. But this is baseball, not chess, so Kamm tripled to Sam Rice in right, scoring Collins and Falk. Kamm thought he would get an inside-the-park homer, but Rice fired to Bucky Harris, who relayed the ball to Muddy Ruel, and Ruel tagged out Kamm to end the inning. Good to get that out, but Chicago now led, 3-2.

Chicago's Charlie Robertson was no slouch, and he gave up nothing in the 7th. Memories of St. Louis might have rippled up and down the Nats dugout, but, in the 8th, Goose Goslin led off with a walk and Joe Judge singled to CF. Remember, dead CF was more than 450 feet, and Goslin ran to third. The White Sox brought in Sarge Conally to face Ossie Bluege, the 3B who had homered in the 6th. Alan Miley has told us that Clark Griffith and Bucky Harris had traded Doc Prothro to a minor league club, even though Prothro was hitting .333 at the time; Bluege was thought to be a better fielder.

Bluege's fielding?

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Whenever American League President Joe Cronin was asked to rank big-league third basemen, he always gave the same answer: “Well, you start with Bluege.”1 Of course shortstop Cronin was referring to his old partner on the right side of the Washington Senators teams of the 1920s and ’30s, Ossie Bluege. At the 1970 World Series, watching Baltimore’s Brooks Robinson make one outstanding play after another, Joe would remark “That’s another Ossie Bluege play.”2 He would often comment that he never had to worry about a ball that was hit to his right side with Bluege manning the hot corner.

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/Ossie-Bluege/

Bluege tied the game with a sacrifice fly that scored Goslin.

In the bottom of the 8th, Hooper singled and, following strategy, Eddie Collins advanced Hooper to second with a sac bunt. This time, Kamm lined out to Goslin in left.

In the 9th, Connally held serve, and got a hit in the bottom half. Roger Peckinpaugh held on to Maurice Archdeacon's line drive, to end that mini-threat.

The Nats won it in the 10th. Bucky Harris singled and Sam Rice walked. Bucky was caught stealing third, but Goslin walked, movng Rice to second with ine out. Joe Judge reached on an error by SS Bill Barrett, loading the bases. Bluege reached on a fielder's choice that scored Rice and left the bases loaded. Maybe this was a fielder's choice that did not get the runner, because Bluege scored right after Joe Judge on a strange play. As best I can tell, Muddy Ruel grounded to SS Barrett, who threw home, forcing Goslin. Two outs. But Buck Crouse, the Chicago catcher, tried to get a double play by catching the slow-footed catcher Ruel at first. Crouse threw the ball away, allowing Judge and Bluege to score. Washington leads, 6-3.

With the win sight, Johnsonson mowed down the White Sox in the bottom half.

The Red Sox beat the Tigers, so Wahington gained a game on Detroit, and the A's took a double-header from the previously mighty Browns, so Washington got a half gane hold on third place, However, the Yankees won.

1. NYY 61-46
2. DET 58-47 (2 games back)
3. WSH 58-49 (3 games back)
4. SLB 55-49 (4 1/2 games back)



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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #188: August 08, 2024, 01:57:06 PM »
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Since Veeck couldn't move the Browns, he was forced to sell to the Beer Barons of Bush League Baltimore.

... whose eventual owner would block the return of a team here for years.  And eventually rip off TV revenue.  (bitter?  me?)

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #189: August 08, 2024, 02:16:20 PM »
... whose eventual owner would block the return of a team here for years.  And eventually rip off TV revenue.  (bitter?  me?)
The sour taste of Angelos.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #190: August 09, 2024, 02:48:46 PM »
Next day, Friday, August 8, it must have rained, because the Nationals played a double-header againist the White Sox on Saturday.

Clark Griffith was busy, though. During that off-day, according to Baseball Reference, he traded $50,000 and a player-to-be-named-later for young OF Earl McNeely. Judging from McNeely's SABR bio, the trade must have been made earlier, and to have been registered on the 8th.

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In Washington, meanwhile, owner Clark Griffith was dissatisfied with his center fielders as his team battled the Yankees and Tigers for first place. Griffith had Goose Goslin in left and preferred Sam Rice, an outstanding fielder, in right. Nemo Leibold could hit but couldn’t handle center field very well. Wid Matthews, acquired six weeks into the season, had become a fan favorite for his hustle, but had begun to slump both at bat and in the field.

Griffith sent his trusted scout Joe Engel to take a look at McNeely [playing for PCL Sacramento]. Engel returned with a glowing report. Griffith agreed to purchase McNeely for $35,000 [Baseball Ref says $50,000] and three players [Basebal Ref says only Matthews], with Sacramento getting Matthews for the rest of the season. McNeely was told to report to the team when it got to Chicago. “Griffith, traveling with the team, waited for McNeely to check into the Senators’ Chicago hotel, and greeted him with ‘So you’re the fellow I paid all that money for,’ extending his hand in greeting,” Shirley Povich wrote in his 1954 team history. “‘Sorry,’ said McNeely, shrinking from Griffith’s handshake. ‘I can’t raise my right arm above my hip. Dislocated my shoulder last week in a game at Frisco.’”

From the SABR bio of McNeely, who had been working as a surveyer for the California Highway Commission as he played for semi-pro teams. He kept his surveyer license when he signed with Sacramento, thinking, "If I don't make it..."

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/Earl-McNeely/

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #191: August 10, 2024, 05:21:04 PM »
Saturday, August 9, 1924, and the Griffs and White Sox will play a double-header because of yesterday's rainout. The first game did not go well, as Chicago got to Curly Ogden, taking the opener 8-2.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA192408091.shtml

Bucky Harris went with his new lineup, with Leibold leading off and Bucky batting second, followed by Sam Rice, Goose Goslin, and Joe Judge. Washington collected eight hits, but not enough at the right times; Chicago took a 2-0 lead in the second, piling on three more in the fifth to chase Ogden.

Bib Falk showed why the Griffmen kept walking him: he homered very deep to RF. Willie Kamm walked and scored on a double. It got much worse it the bottom of the fifth -- so bad that the Baseball Reference Win Probablity this the game might as well have been called. Ray Morehart walked, and Buck Crouse failed to advance him on a bunt, with Morehart forced at second. Red Faber walked, but when Maurice Archdeacon flied to Goslin in shallow left, there were two on and two out. Harry Hooper doubled to right, scoring Crouse, so Harris decided to replace Ogden with Firpo Marberry. Bad decision: Eddie Collins doubled to LF, scoring Faber and Hooper.

In the top of the seventh, Harris had Wid Mathews pinch-hit for Marberry, and Matty's single pushed Muddy Ruel to second. Earl McNeely, who arrived yesterday with a bad shoulder, had replaced Nemo Leibold a half-inning before. McNeely promptly singled, driving in Muddy Ruel, allowing Wid Matthews to take third. McNeely reached second on Bib Falk's throw home. Harris drove in Matthews on his sac fly: score 5-2. Not close enough, it turned out.

Harris tried By Speece, but Byron immediately gave up three runs on 3 hits, ending any chance the Nationals might have had. 

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #192: August 10, 2024, 05:34:50 PM »
Lefty slabman Tom Zachary pitched Washington to an 8-5 victory in the nightcap, before 18,000 cheering Chicagoans.

:w: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA192408092.shtml

The Griffmen would not give up even after those losses to the Browns. Maybe it was the cooler weather, but they finally remembered how to hit, getting 20 hits. Rice, Judge, the light-hitting Bluege, and Ruel each knocked out 3 hits, and Goose Goslin went 4 for 5. Nemo Leibold went back to CF, as Earl McNeely rested his shoulder and Wid Matthews took the trains for Sacramento. Nemo got no hits, which (see above in SABR) was why Clark Griffith wanted McNeely.

Washington touched Chicago's Hollis Thurston for a pair of runs in the second, on three hits and a Chicago error. Goose Goslin singled, stole second. He was thrown out trying to steal third after Joe Judge had walked. With two outs, Roger Peckinpaugh reach on an error by his counter-part, Morehart,

In the bottom of that inning, however, Bib Falk reach on Peckinpaugh's own error, and came around to score after Willie Kamm's double and Morehart's groundout.

Leading 2-1, Washington grabbed another run in the fourth. Muddy Ruel singled, and Peckinpaugh singled on a bunt down the 1B line. It is safe to think that Old Peck was try to bunt Ruel to second, but the buunt was good enough that he reach first safely. Naturally, Tom Zachary bunted Ruel to third and Peckinpaugh to second on a sacrifice. A fielder's choice ascored Ruel. Washington leads 3-1.

Chicago closed the gap with a run in the 5th and another in the 6th when Willie Kamm's groundout scored Eddie Collins, who had led off with a bunt base-hit. Note to Bob Carpenter: even your score-cards would have been messy in those days with all the actions.

Withe the score 4-3 in favor of Clark Griffith's team, Goose Goslin hit a 2-run homer in the 7th, scoring Sam Rice who had singled. Some breathing room. But not for long, as Chicago picked up two in the bottom of the 7th. Zachary gave up leadoff doubles to Johnny Grabowski and Hollis Thurston, sacoring one run. Then, with Thurston on third and one out, Hooper grounded to Bucky Harris at 2B, and Harris chose the clear out at first as Thurston scored. Nats lead, 6-5.

Bucky Harris replaced Zachary in the 8th with "Rubberarm" Allen Russell, the side-arming legal spit-baller.

Then, in the top of the 9th, Sam Rice doubled, Goslin singled him to third, and Joe Judge singled, driving in Rice and sending Goslin to third. Ossie Bluege drove in Gosline with his own single. Muddy Ruel singled, but the Griffs did not score again. They didn't need to, as Russell retired the side in order for the 8-5 win, tighter than the final score would seem.

Washington has split the double-header. Where does that leave the Yankees, Tigers, and Senators?

1. NYY 62-47 (beat the Indians)
2. DET 60-47, 1 game back (beat the Red Sox)
3. WSH 59-50, 3 games back.
4. SLB 56-50, 4 1/2 back (beat the A's...the Brownies are not out of it)








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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #193: August 11, 2024, 10:13:41 AM »
George Mogridge pitched a tidy 6-hitter to down the White Sox, 4-2, on August 10, 1924, in front of 24,000 fans. Bucky Harris, Sam Rice, and Joe Judge, three of the stalwarts, each picked up two hits, while Harris gave Goose Goslin a day off. Nemo Leibold shifted over to Goslin's LF position, and Earl McNeely took CF. Trainer Mike Martin has jusged that McNeely's sore shoulder is not as bad as thought; Martin believes that the should will work itself out.

:w: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA192408100.shtml

Washington slugged its way to a first inning lead as Harris tripled to center, that 455 foot center. Remember that modern players, like Austin Kearns, whined about the 360-foot power alleys in RFK Stadium? Imagine what Kearns, the slugger, would have said about Comiskey, with its symmetrical 395 feet to left and right center, with 366 feet down both lines. But Sam Rice was not intimidated -- he slapped an opposite-field double down the left-field line for the first run of the game.

Chicago quickly matched the run, but in the orthodox 1924 way. Johnny Mostil, the CF, led off with a double, and, of course, Harry Hooper bunted Mostil to third. Eddie Collins drew a walk, putting runners at first and third with one out. Earl Sheely grounded back to Mogridge, who threw him out at first while Mostil scored: 1-1.

Mogridge and Chicago's Mike Cvengros were each pitching well, three up, three down, until the fourth when the Griffmen picked up another run after some disastrous base-running. Bucky Harris walked, but was doubled off first, RF Harry Hooper to 1B Sheely to catcher Ray Schalk covering first. Two outs, but then Earl McNeely, the hitting CF that Clark Griffith "paid all that money for", doubled. Joe Judged singled to left -- his opposite field -- and McNeely scored. Washington leads, 2-1. In the bottom of the inning, Eddie Collins led off with a single but was erased on a double-play, 2B Bucky Harris to SS Sam Peckinpaugh to 1B Joe Judge. I point to that play because double-plays are so rare in all these games. In another sort of double play, not so unusual, in the fifth inning, Muddy Ruel led off with a double and was advanced to third on -- you guessed it -- Roger Peckinpaugh's bunt.

Apologies for calling him "Sam" above. I just watched The Wild Bunch and have "Sam" on my brain. To make some amends, here is the opening of Peck's SABR biography:

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Roger Peckinpaugh was one of the finest defensive shortstops and on-field leaders of the Deadball Era. Like Honus Wagner, the 5’10”, 165-lb. “Peck” was rangy and bowlegged, with a big barrel chest, broad shoulders, large hands, and the best throwing arm of his generation. From 1916 to 1924, Peckinpaugh led American League shortstops in assists and double plays five times each. As Shirley Povich later reflected, “the spectacle of Peckinpaugh, slinging himself after ground balls, throwing from out of position and nailing his man by half a step was an American League commonplace.” The even-tempered Peckinpaugh was equally admired for his leadership, becoming the youngest manager in baseball history when he briefly took the reins of the New York Yankees in 1914. Described as the “calmest man in baseball,” Peckinpaugh’s steadying influence later helped the Washington Senators to their only world championship, and won him the 1925 Most Valuable Player Award, making him the first shortstop in baseball history to receive the honor.

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/Roger-Peckinpaugh/

In this case, George Mogridge "hit" into a double-play by striking out and Ruel was picked off third.

Mogridge continued to pitch strongly, "0 hits 0 runs" inning after inning. Sam Rice tripled, with two outs in the 8th, but was left there as McNeely struck out. In the bottom of the 8th, Chicago sent Roy Elsh to pinch-hit for Cvengros, but Elsh also made an out. Still a 2-1 Senators lead. 

In the top of the 9th, Joe Judge doubled off of Chicago reliever Sarge Connally, and scored as Connally threw a wild pitch to Ossie Bluege. And Ossie walked. Bluege reached second on Roger Peckinpaugh's groundout and then scored when Mogridge "helped his own cause" with a single.

Chicagp threatened in the bottom of the 9th, but their rally ran out. Harry Hooper singled and the great Eddie Collins tripled. Earl Sheely walked, putting runners a first and third with one out. Bib Falk, Chicago's slugger, hit a fly ball, but -- I'm guessing -- was not deep enough to score Collins. The light-hitting pest Willie Kamm grounded into a force at second.

Nationals win, 4-2.

The Indians beat the Yankees, while Detroit again beat Boston. And the Browns beat Philadelphia. The Tigers edge into first place by 1 percentage point:

1. DET: 61-47
2. NYY: 62-48
3. WSH: 60-50, 2 games back
4. SLB: 57-50, 3 1/2 games back








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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #194: August 12, 2024, 01:31:57 PM »
The Twins put this on their outfield wall:


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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #195: August 12, 2024, 02:40:32 PM »
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The Twins put this on their outfield wall:

Maybe I should be glad that they are honoring our guys, but somehow, it just feels like they are rubbing in traitor-nephew Cal's money grab.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #196: August 12, 2024, 08:37:35 PM »
Maybe I should be glad that they are honoring our guys, but somehow, it just feels like they are rubbing in traitor-nephew Cal's money grab.

For the younger folks here, Alan means Calvin Griffith, who was a nephew of Addie Griffith, and was adopted by Clark and Addie. Traitor? Addie said, over and over, that Clark would never have moved the Senators, but Calvin began conniving with the "city fathers" pf Minneapolis to move the team there almsot the minute that Clark died. Washington fans stuck by the Nats as Calvin dumped veteran players like Micky Vernon, Pete Runnels, and Eddie Yost. Maybe that gave him the money to build up a farm system; Washington had a core of young players in 1959 and 1960. The Senators -- the official name as of 1956 or so -- did well in 1960, and Shirley Povich said that the Nats would have drawn a million people if there had been more than about 15,000 good seats in the old stadium. The Interior Department was building a new DC Stadium for the Senators and the Redskins, with about 50,000 seats for baseball. Calvin kept meaning to sign a lease to play there starting in 1962, and intending to, and almost signing right until the end of the 1960 season. About two weeks later, he announced he would move our team to Minneapolis and that the "city fathers" had bought 40,000 season tickets...and almost no team had 40,000 season ticket holders.

Years later, Calvin gave a speech to the "city fathers" in which he boasted that "All I had to do was see all these white faces and I knew I wanted my team to move here". Rod Carew immediately said, approximately, "I'm not going to work on that man's plantation any longer".

It is about time the Nationals raise the 1924 World Series flag, and the AL penants for 1924, '25, and '33. Note the "histoical research" behind The Twins' sign. Clark Griffith named his team the Washington Nationals, and that Nationals team won the 1924 World Series. 

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On MOnday, August 11, Clark Griffith's men took the train to Washington, where they would meet the Cleveland Indians.

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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #197: August 13, 2024, 01:37:42 PM »
Bucky Harris gave the ball to Walter Johnson when the Nats got home to Griffith Stadium for the game on Tuesday, August 12, in front of 5,500 fans.

:w: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/WS1/WS1192408120.shtml

Result? In a classic Big Train gem, Walter Johnson struck out eight, walked none -- try that, Mackenzie Gore -- gave up four hits, and pitched a shutout. Washington 4 Cleveland 0.

Walter Johnson started things with a single to lead off the bottom of the third. Earl McNeely singled, putting Johnson on second. Bucky Harris bunted, but the bunt was so good that he, and everyone else, reached safely. After Sam Rice's flyball to RF was too short for a sacrifice, Goose Goslin, reliable Goose, hit a fly to deep left to score Johnson.

Johnson and Cleveland's Sherry Smith settled into a duel. Barney struck out two in the fouth and two in the fifth. Smith gave up a two-out single to Sam Rice in the fifth and then commited a balk, but got Goslin to fly to CF Tris Speaker.

In the top of the 8th, Sherry Smith singled, but Charlie Jamieson hit into a double-play, Harris to Roger Peckinpaugh to Joe Judge. And let's linger over Joe Judge for a minute. I believe that Judge should be voted into the Hall of Fame, and, at the least, should be honored on the Nats Park Ring of Honor.

Here are his stats: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/judgejo01.shtml

On the numbers: lifetime WAR of 47.9, lifetime average .298, which includes his seasons after he turned 37 and lost his starting job to Joe Kuhel.  Even then, he averaged .299 over 18 years with Washington, had an .802 OPS, and an OPS+ of 115. Over a 162 game season, Judge would have hit 32 doubles and 12 triples.

And Judge was a great fielder, a left-handed SS playing 1B.

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On July 1, 1920, Walter Johnson was attempting to complete a feat that had thus far eluded him in his thirteen-year career. The Washington Senator hurler was one out away from pitching his first no-hitter. Johnson was pitching a great game, striking out 10 Red Sox hitters and getting six others to foul out. He was clinging to a 1-0 lead in front of a small crowd of 3,000 at Fenway Park.

Standing in his way was Boston’s right fielder, Harry Hooper. Hooper was the only Red Sox to reach base, courtesy of a fielding error by second baseman Bucky Harris. He had also struck out in a previous confrontation between the future residents of Cooperstown. But Hooper was not caught up in the moment, and ripped Johnson’s second offering down the first base line that crossed the bag and was hooking into foul territory. First baseman Joe Judge quickly moved to his left, speared the ball, stopped and made a perfect toss to Johnson covering the base. The Big Train snagged the toss bare-handed. Judge was so excited, he went into a war-dance and congratulated Johnson, who could only say “Goodness, gracious, sakes alive, wasn’t I lucky?”i

Joe Judge created that kind of “luck” for pitchers his whole career with his superb defense. He was a great fielder, leading American League first baseman six times and finishing second five other years. He was not the prototypical first sacker, standing 5’8 ½”, but he was one of the game’s best. He retired with a .993 fielding percentage, a mark that stood for 30 years, but his defense was only part of the tale. The left-handed swinging Judge brought a lethal stick to the Washington lineup, hitting over .290 for 11 straight seasons beginning in 1920. Yes, Joe Judge was the complete ballplayer, and one of the best first baseman of his era, or any other.

SABR: https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/Joe-Judge/

Back to 1924, August 12, now bottom of that 8th inning. Sam Rice led off with a triple to right-center, some beyond the 421-foot mark to direct CF. Probably fieled by RF Homer Summa, rather than Tris Speaker. As mentioned I mentioned earlier, Speaker had a strong arm and was thought to be the best CF of his time. Sam scored on Goose Goslin's single. Of course, Joe Judge bunted. Smith fielded it, but Cleveland 1B George Burns dropped the throw for his 12th error of the year. Ossie Bluege was hit by the pitch, loading the bases with no outs. The play would be to home on anything to the infield, and so it was: Muddy Ruel grounded to SS Joe Sewell, who threw home in time to force Goslin at the plate. But Roger Peckinpaugh, next up, singled to LF Charlie Jamieson, scoring Judge and Bluege. Nationals lead 4-0.

In the 9th, Johnson had to bear down. After Summa reached first on an error by Bucky Harris, the Grey Eagle, Tris Speaker singled. No outs; Summa on third and Speaker on first. Johnson "induced" a popup caught by 3B Ossie Bluege in foul ground. One out, and not yet the time to breath easily. Player-manager Speaker called on Frank Brower to pinch-hit and Johnson struck him out. That might have been an odd choioce, since Brower was hitting .197, and he replaced George Burns, hitting .309, but Brower has a left-handed hitter and Burns hit right. Burns had had no hits and had already struck out. Johnson over-powered Larry Gardner, who poppued up to Muddy Ruel behind the plate.
 
This was the only game played today, so the Nats gained a galf game on New York and Detroit.

1. DET: 61-47 (.565)
2. NYY: 62-48 (.564)
3. WSH: 61-50 (537 -- 1 1/2 GB)
4. SLB: 57-50 (533 -- 3 1/2 GB)

Still a tight race with two teams virtually tied, and even the 4th place Browns with in striking distance)


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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #198: August 13, 2024, 08:33:30 PM »
Bucky Harris went with lefty Tom Zachary to continue winning. It was not to be, as Cleveland's Stan Coveleski set down the Nats, 5-1.

:w: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/WS1/WS1192408130.shtml

Cleveland jumped out to a 2-0 lead in the first, as Joe Sewell doubled to left-center, scoring Charlie Jamieson and Tris Speaker. The Nats threatened in the second after Joe Judge walked and took second when Ossie Bluege singled. Muddy Ruel bunted, putting runners on second and third with one out. Unfortunately, Cleveland nabbed Judge at home, when Roger Peckinpaugh grounded to Rube Lutzke at 3B and Lutzke's threw home. Cleveland almost rallied, but in thethird it was popfly, single, single popfly, and a popfly to Judge. Still 2-0 Cleveland.

The Griffmen got a run in the bottom of the third as Nemo Leibold singled on a bunt. Indians catcher Luke Sewell threw the ball into right field and RF Homer Summa couldn't pick up the throw. Result? Leibold stood on third, waiting, when Bucky Harris singled. But Coveleski got three quick outs to snuff Washington's rally.

In the 6th, the Indians worked the sac bunt strategy into a 3-run rally. After a walk and the bunt, Coveleski singled, driving in Luke Sewell and Rube Lutzke. When Leibold in center bobbled Coveleski's hit, Coveleski took third. Jamieson singled, scoring Coveleski.

That was the game, as Zachary settled again, and the Nationals were getting nothing from Coveleski.

**

The Yankees took two from the Browns today, and Philadelphia beat Detroit in 11 innings.

1. NYY: 64-48
2. DET: 62-48 (1 game behind)
3. WSH: 61-51 (3 games behind. Looks bad)


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Re: The 1924 Washington Nationals
« Reply #199: August 13, 2024, 09:02:56 PM »
I'm on my way to St Louis to see the grandchildren, and our son and daughter-in-law. Back in a couple of days to see if the Griffs can recover from this loss.