Author Topic: Trey Lipscomb RotY … Or Disappointment? Watch (Read 3805 times)

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #25 on:** May 07, 2024, 12:28:37 pm »

A wise, inciteful comment from someone who i am sure is handsome in real life and not too into poop jokes.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/05/07/trey-lipscomb-nationals-tennessee/

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he looks like he's at least a backup utility, maybe most likely that level, with an upside of a Zobrist / Tony Phillips-like super-utility player on a decent team. The later outcome looks like a stretch, but to reach it, he will need to play every day either in MLB or AAA. I could see him getting squeezed out of a starting gig on the Nats sometime this year. Senzel will eventually play at 3rd, Winker may eventually DH, Winker could stick and another guy take over at DH, and a new piece could emerge in the OF like Gallo or Wood. At that time, Lipscomb should go to Rochester, but for now, I'm ok with him not being overwhelmed in his time up.

rileyn · « **Reply #26 on:** May 15, 2024, 05:03:58 pm »

I thought his reputation was as a solid defender. I'm no scout, but I'm not seeing that with my eyes.

Smithian · « **Reply #27 on:** May 16, 2024, 09:27:38 am »

Quote from: rileyn on May 15, 2024, 05:03:58 pm

I thought his reputation was as a solid defender. I'm no scout, but I'm not seeing that with my eyes.

The defense doesn't look great!

The analytics don't hate his defense but the eye test is concerning.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2024, 09:30:34 am »

Quote from: Smithian on May 16, 2024, 09:27:38 am

The defense doesn't look great!

The analytics don't hate his defense but the eye test is concerning.

range is great, but there's a bit of sloppiness once he gets to a ball.

Smithian · « **Reply #29 on:** May 16, 2024, 10:49:47 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on May 16, 2024, 09:30:34 am

range is great, but there's a bit of sloppiness once he gets to a ball.

I'm hoping and expect it is just rookie jitters.

welch · « **Reply #30 on:** May 16, 2024, 02:14:24 pm »

Trey is better than Senzel. Trey owns 3B

OfftheBat · « **Reply #31 on:** May 17, 2024, 11:00:27 am »

He has potential, I think... Just needs to bring up his OBP (currently sitting at 0.331) a little and the rest will follow IMO...

Slateman · « **Reply #32 on:** May 17, 2024, 01:06:39 pm »

Call me a hater, but I dont see why he is at the MLB level. His at bats are uncompetitive and he is not good defensively. Muxh rather see him in Triple A, rotating through the infield to gain defensive experience.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #33 on:** May 17, 2024, 01:15:25 pm »

Trey is actually hitting RHP pretty well. .292 / .381 / .333 over 85 PA. A bit BABIP driven (.345) but a respectable walk rate (11.8%) and a low K rate (16.5%). Oddly, he's been beat up so far by lefties (.171 / .216 /.200) over 37 PAs, also BABIP driven (.207). Can't draw a walk vs a lefty, but K% shows no split, which is nice.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/lavictor-lipscomb/31567/splits?position=3B&season=2024

I can't find a handy source for his minor league splits to see if this pattern showed up the past couple of years.

Most likely, the average against RHP will come down a bit, but the average against lefties will bounce up big time. He's fine holding the spot until House or Morales is ready, but what will likely happen is he will be gone when Gallo shows up.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #34 on:** May 17, 2024, 01:17:14 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on May 17, 2024, 01:06:39 pm

Call me a hater, but I dont see why he is at the MLB level. His at bats are uncompetitive and he is not good defensively. Muxh rather see him in Triple A, rotating through the infield to gain defensive experience.

Hater!

I think what you are saying would be best for his development. Unfortunately, Senzel has not taken over 3rd. Maybe the right move now is to play Vargas Every Day Every Play at 3rd?

Slateman · « **Reply #35 on:** May 17, 2024, 01:18:25 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on May 17, 2024, 01:17:14 pm

Hater!

I think what you are saying would be best for his development. Unfortunately, Senzel has not taken over 3rd. Maybe the right move now is to play Vargas Every Day Every Play at 3rd?

Is Senzel physically capable of playing third?

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #36 on:** May 17, 2024, 01:23:50 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on May 17, 2024, 01:18:25 pm

Is Senzel physically capable of playing third?

if he isn't, and you want Trey in the minors, then who do you suggest play 3rd other than your sole utility infielder?

Slateman · « **Reply #37 on:** May 17, 2024, 02:07:46 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on May 17, 2024, 01:23:50 pm

if he isn't, and you want Trey in the minors, then who do you suggest play 3rd other than your sole utility infielder?

If Senzel isnt physically capable, then cut him.

If Lipscomb's future is a utility infielder, then put him where he can play multiple positions. I think that means Triple A. As for Senzel's replacement, Alu and Kieboom can hold it down for this season.

I would like to see if Lipscomb could play decent defense at short. I feel like that gives you an option to move Abrams to 2B, if his defense doesnt improve.

imref · « **Reply #38 on:** May 17, 2024, 03:13:02 pm »

Lipscomb has been sent down to clear a spot for Gallo

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #39 on:** May 17, 2024, 05:09:39 pm »

Quote from: imref on May 17, 2024, 03:13:02 pm

Lipscomb has been sent down to clear a spot for Gallo

kind of always figured that would be the move. Senzel to 3rd, Meneses to DH, Gallo to 1st, Winker to left. Only issue is whether it's Gallo in left and Winker at DH, but because Gallo played 1st, not OF when he went to Rochester, it'll be Meneses to DH and Winker in left.

rileyn · « **Reply #40 on:** May 18, 2024, 07:57:02 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on May 17, 2024, 05:09:39 pm

kind of always figured that would be the move. Senzel to 3rd, Meneses to DH, Gallo to 1st, Winker to left. Only issue is whether it's Gallo in left and Winker at DH, but because Gallo played 1st, not OF when he went to Rochester, it'll be Meneses to DH and Winker in left.

Meneses as a DH? Really? .220/.290/.267 1 HR. He has hit one hard ball all year that I can remember.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #41 on:** May 18, 2024, 01:03:52 pm »

Quote from: rileyn on May 18, 2024, 07:57:02 am

Meneses as a DH? Really? .220/.290/.267 1 HR. He has hit one hard ball all year that I can remember.

I'm not going to spend time defending Meneses or even Senzel. I just said I expected this, and it's probably OK for Lipscomb's development.

With a lefty 1B activated, I wasn't going to expect Meneses to be sent down or Senzel released. one thing I won't say is this team is stronger today than it was in Chicago (and that was not a blazing success, either).

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #42 on:** July 06, 2024, 02:37:44 pm »

Lipscomb's recall I think is intended as purely a defensive upgrade. While the arm has been a concern here, all defensive metrics have him as a positive defender (DRS, UZR, OAA). His bat is not good, but neither was Senzel's since 5/1.

Pitchers will like this move. It also probably lets Vargas slip back into his bench utility role rather than platoon starter with Garcia and Senzel. Vargas has tailed the more he's been used, and coming off the bench let's him be slotted in in better situations.

Smithian · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2024, 06:04:32 pm »

I am not writing Lipscomb off as only a utility guy quite yet. I hope he gets some consistent burn at 3B for a while.

And if he turns into Ildeamo Vargas, is that a bad thing?

Slateman · « **Reply #44 on:** July 06, 2024, 06:08:22 pm »

No. It would be nice to have a platoon with Garcia for a couple years.

Senatorswin · « **Reply #45 on:** July 06, 2024, 08:36:45 pm »

Quote from: Smithian on July 06, 2024, 06:04:32 pm

I am not writing Lipscomb off as only a utility guy quite yet. I hope he gets some consistent burn at 3B for a while.

And if he turns into Ildeamo Vargas, is that a bad thing?

Charley and Dave said today Lipscomb is the third baseman now.

Slateman · « **Reply #46 on:** July 21, 2024, 09:18:13 am »

Dude sucks

OfftheBat · « **Reply #47 on:** July 21, 2024, 12:13:17 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on July 21, 2024, 09:18:13 am

Dude sucks

Yup, no if and buts about it. I was rooting for him but his OPS is now sitting at .540 lmao...

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #48 on:** July 21, 2024, 12:20:50 pm »

He's exposed, the same way Vargas is exposed, when playing every day. He's a utility guy who is being asked to be a place holder for House. Were I Davey, I'd play Garcia every day and spot in Vargas at 3rd against some righties.

imref · « **Reply #49 on:** July 21, 2024, 12:42:06 pm »

Just call up House already.