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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #200 on: August 07, 2025, 10:00:43 am »
According to https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id/83150/paul-skenes he's represented by ISE Baseball

Thanks...don't know why I thought he was a Boras client.  Man...we really missed the boat in 2023...

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« Reply #201 on: August 07, 2025, 09:20:54 pm »
Thanks...don't know why I thought he was a Boras client.  Man...we really missed the boat in 2023...
We didn't miss the boat. MLB gave our boat to Pittsburg

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« Reply #202 on: August 13, 2025, 12:47:14 pm »
Thanks...don't know why I thought he was a Boras client.  Man...we really missed the boat in 2023...

You can thank MLB and the Orioles for Skenes being a Pirate. My favorite part of the whole thing was creating a silly lottery to punish teams that don't spend and the number one offender gets the generational pitcher because of it lol

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #203 on: August 30, 2025, 02:48:14 pm »
Langford quietly putting together a close to 5 WAR season.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #204 on: August 30, 2025, 04:29:42 pm »
Langford quietly putting together a close to 5 WAR season.

Rizzo really screwed the pooch...

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« Reply #205 on: September 24, 2025, 08:10:32 pm »
Skenes ERA down to 1.97 after the 6th. Sitting at 85 pitches so could be done after this inning. What a season for him.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #206 on: September 24, 2025, 08:29:09 pm »
Langford quietly putting together a close to 5 WAR season.

Langford was put on the 10 Day IL today with an oblique injury.  Finishes with a 2025 WAR of 4.0...7.1 WAR for his brief career, which is thought to be a $56.7MM value.

Our #2 first round pick in the 2023 draft has a 2025 WAR of 0.3 with 3 games to go, and a 0.8 WAR for his brief career, which is thought to be a $6.4MM value.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #207 on: September 25, 2025, 04:52:52 pm »
Langford had a .241 average and 22 homers over 573 PAs with 22 SBs. Crews has a .250 xBA and 10 HRs over 315 PAs with 17 SBs. I won't knock Langford but to say Crews is a 4th OF with pretty similar stats is questionable. Yes, expected batting average is not the same as actual average, but it is a decent measure of talent until there's enough years of play to show something is off.

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« Reply #208 on: September 25, 2025, 09:15:03 pm »
Skenes' 2025 ERA is almost identical to his 2024 ERA. Cy Young #1 is in the bag.

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« Reply #209 on: September 25, 2025, 10:00:06 pm »
...to say Crews is a 4th OF with pretty similar stats is questionable.

I guess we'll see...I always thought his ceiling was a Lane Thomas-ish career...certainly not a #2 overall pick career.  He's got a ways to go just to get where Lane got.  That's my take and I'm stickin' to it...  ;)

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« Reply #210 on: September 25, 2025, 10:09:09 pm »
Lane’s stats in st Louis were brutal and he didn’t become a regular until he reached DC.  When he was 26 I think. He’s 30 now. Crews is still 23.  So he has three more years to reach that age and probably start his peak years.  You can’t really compare a guy you saw at 26 to one you've been watching at 22/23.  He will be better at the plate in 2026. Mark my words.

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« Reply #211 on: September 25, 2025, 10:28:50 pm »

I promise not to rub it in when everything I'm saying comes true...  ;)

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #212 on: September 26, 2025, 07:04:26 am »
:lmao: Lane Thomas

25 other teams, at least, take Crews at #2.

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« Reply #213 on: November 12, 2025, 09:38:12 pm »
Skenes wins his first Cy Young.

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« Reply #214 on: November 13, 2025, 09:00:44 am »
Skenes wins his first Cy Young.

Sigh

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #215 on: November 13, 2025, 09:04:02 am »
:lmao: Lane Thomas

25 other teams, at least, take Crews at #2.

Yup

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« Reply #216 on: November 13, 2025, 11:04:43 am »
Skenes wins his first Cy Young.
He’ll be adding one for the Yankees soon. Imagine the haul we would have gotten for him.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #217 on: November 13, 2025, 11:45:05 am »
Probably as much as when we trade Wood and Crews combined to the Dodgers

He’ll be adding one for the Yankees soon. Imagine the haul we would have gotten for him.

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« Reply #218 on: November 13, 2025, 04:21:25 pm »
barring an injury,  he could win 5 or more before he's done.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #220 on: November 27, 2025, 07:29:44 pm »
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/stick-wyatt-langford-in-center-cowards/

"On the 20-80 scale, FanGraphs’ lead prospect analyst Eric Longenhagen gave Langford a 30 future value fielding grade."


Ouch!