Author Topic: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees) (Read 19380 times)

varoadking · « **Reply #200 on:** August 07, 2025, 10:00:43 am »

Quote from: imref on August 07, 2025, 09:49:31 am

According to https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id/83150/paul-skenes he's represented by ISE Baseball

Thanks...don't know why I thought he was a Boras client. Man...we really missed the boat in 2023...

Slateman · « **Reply #201 on:** August 07, 2025, 09:20:54 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on August 07, 2025, 10:00:43 am

Thanks...don't know why I thought he was a Boras client. Man...we really missed the boat in 2023...

We didn't miss the boat. MLB gave our boat to Pittsburg

SkinsNatFan21RIP · « **Reply #202 on:** August 13, 2025, 12:47:14 pm »

Quote from: varoadking on August 07, 2025, 10:00:43 am

Thanks...don't know why I thought he was a Boras client. Man...we really missed the boat in 2023...

You can thank MLB and the Orioles for Skenes being a Pirate. My favorite part of the whole thing was creating a silly lottery to punish teams that don't spend and the number one offender gets the generational pitcher because of it lol

Slateman · « **Reply #203 on:** August 30, 2025, 02:48:14 pm »

Langford quietly putting together a close to 5 WAR season.

varoadking · « **Reply #204 on:** August 30, 2025, 04:29:42 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on August 30, 2025, 02:48:14 pm

Langford quietly putting together a close to 5 WAR season.

Rizzo really screwed the pooch...

imref · « **Reply #205 on:** September 24, 2025, 08:10:32 pm »

Skenes ERA down to 1.97 after the 6th. Sitting at 85 pitches so could be done after this inning. What a season for him.

varoadking · « **Reply #206 on:** September 24, 2025, 08:29:09 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on August 30, 2025, 02:48:14 pm

Langford quietly putting together a close to 5 WAR season.

Langford was put on the 10 Day IL today with an oblique injury. Finishes with a 2025 WAR of 4.0...7.1 WAR for his brief career, which is thought to be a $56.7MM value.

Our #2 first round pick in the 2023 draft has a 2025 WAR of 0.3 with 3 games to go, and a 0.8 WAR for his brief career, which is thought to be a $6.4MM value.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #207 on:** September 25, 2025, 04:52:52 pm »

Langford had a .241 average and 22 homers over 573 PAs with 22 SBs. Crews has a .250 xBA and 10 HRs over 315 PAs with 17 SBs. I won't knock Langford but to say Crews is a 4th OF with pretty similar stats is questionable. Yes, expected batting average is not the same as actual average, but it is a decent measure of talent until there's enough years of play to show something is off.

imref · « **Reply #208 on:** September 25, 2025, 09:15:03 pm »

Skenes' 2025 ERA is almost identical to his 2024 ERA. Cy Young #1 is in the bag.

varoadking · « **Reply #209 on:** September 25, 2025, 10:00:06 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on September 25, 2025, 04:52:52 pm

...to say Crews is a 4th OF with pretty similar stats is questionable.

I guess we'll see...I always thought his ceiling was a Lane Thomas-ish career...certainly not a #2 overall pick career. He's got a ways to go just to get where Lane got. That's my take and I'm stickin' to it...

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #210 on:** September 25, 2025, 10:09:09 pm »

Lane’s stats in st Louis were brutal and he didn’t become a regular until he reached DC. When he was 26 I think. He’s 30 now. Crews is still 23. So he has three more years to reach that age and probably start his peak years. You can’t really compare a guy you saw at 26 to one you've been watching at 22/23. He will be better at the plate in 2026. Mark my words.

varoadking · « **Reply #211 on:** September 25, 2025, 10:28:50 pm »

I promise not to rub it in when everything I'm saying comes true...

Slateman · « **Reply #212 on:** September 26, 2025, 07:04:26 am »

Lane Thomas

25 other teams, at least, take Crews at #2.

imref · « **Reply #213 on:** November 12, 2025, 09:38:12 pm »

Skenes wins his first Cy Young.

SkinsNatFan21RIP · « **Reply #214 on:** November 13, 2025, 09:00:44 am »

Quote from: imref on November 12, 2025, 09:38:12 pm

Skenes wins his first Cy Young.

Sigh

Kevrock · « **Reply #215 on:** November 13, 2025, 09:04:02 am »

Quote from: Slateman on September 26, 2025, 07:04:26 am

Lane Thomas

25 other teams, at least, take Crews at #2.

Yup

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #216 on:** November 13, 2025, 11:04:43 am »

Quote from: imref on November 12, 2025, 09:38:12 pm

Skenes wins his first Cy Young.

He’ll be adding one for the Yankees soon. Imagine the haul we would have gotten for him.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #217 on:** November 13, 2025, 11:45:05 am »

Probably as much as when we trade Wood and Crews combined to the Dodgers

Quote from: Natsinpwc on November 13, 2025, 11:04:43 am

He’ll be adding one for the Yankees soon. Imagine the haul we would have gotten for him.

imref · « **Reply #218 on:** November 13, 2025, 04:21:25 pm »

barring an injury, he could win 5 or more before he's done.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #219 on:** November 27, 2025, 03:41:21 pm »

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/stick-wyatt-langford-in-center-cowards/

varoadking · « **Reply #220 on:** November 27, 2025, 07:29:44 pm »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on November 27, 2025, 03:41:21 pm

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/stick-wyatt-langford-in-center-cowards/

"On the 20-80 scale, FanGraphs’ lead prospect analyst Eric Longenhagen gave Langford a 30 future value fielding grade."

Ouch!

imref · « **Reply #221 on:** March 22, 2026, 05:30:07 pm »

Chase Dollander heading to the Rockies' bullpen.

imref · « **Reply #222 on:** March 24, 2026, 02:15:57 pm »

Revisiting:
1. Skenes (Pirates) - Greatest pitcher of all time potential
2. Crews (Nats) - Can't hit, starting the year in AAA
3. Max Clark (Tigers) - Projected to start the year in AAA and arrive in 2026
4. Langford (Rangers) - Hits a lot of home runs
5. Walker Jenkins (Twins) - Hurt in spring training, has missed a fair amount of time with injuries, expected back in a few weeks and will be at AAA
6. Jacob Wilson (A's) - In the majors, .799 OPS in 2025
7. Rhett Lowder (Reds) - Will begin the year in the Reds rotation after missing most of 2025 with injuries
8. Blake Mitchell (Royals) - Played at A+ last year and struggled after breaking his hamate early in the year
9. Chase Dollander (Rockies) - Moved to the Rockies bullpen
10. Noble Meyer (Marlins) - 4.41 ERA in 16 starts at A+ last year, probably starts there again this year (he's only 21)

imref · « **Reply #223 on:** March 26, 2026, 04:35:40 pm »

Jay Cuda notes: Paul Skenes ERA by season:
2024: 1.96
2025: 1.97
2026: 67.50

varoadking · « **Reply #224 on:** March 26, 2026, 07:26:19 pm »

Quote from: imref on March 26, 2026, 04:35:40 pm

Jay Cuda notes: Paul Skenes ERA by season:
2024: 1.96
2025: 1.97
2026: 67.50

I have no clue who Jay Cuda is, but that's kind of a sophomoric take...