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« Reply #125 on: June 26, 2024, 04:28:53 pm »
Even if they get their own rights the Nats will never be close to the TV revenue from those teams. They probably should have three groups. The rich. The middle class where the Nats would fall. And the poor.

The local TV revenue model is in for a big shake up, maybe as early as next year.   The Yankees and Red Sox are both facing steeply declining TV subscriber revenue.   The Phillies and Dodgers will keep getting their money for now, but who knows how long that lasts.   Both those deals are paying out right fees far beyond what they are bringing in, and other RSNs have found a way to get out of deals like that.

The Nats MASN situation is actually a lot better than what 2/3s of the other teams are facing.

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« Reply #126 on: June 26, 2024, 09:52:37 pm »
According to an article dates January 19th of this year there are 12 teams getting less TV revenue than the Nats with the Orioles tied of course. That doesn't count the Blue Jays who have a special deal and the Diamondbacks who lost their TV deal and MLB handles them. A couple of other teams lost their deals also but are counted in the 12.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/each-teams-local-broadcasting-arrangement.html

The Nats are 17th in revenue.

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« Reply #127 on: June 27, 2024, 02:40:39 pm »
According to an article dates January 19th of this year there are 12 teams getting less TV revenue than the Nats with the Orioles tied of course. That doesn't count the Blue Jays who have a special deal and the Diamondbacks who lost their TV deal and MLB handles them. A couple of other teams lost their deals also but are counted in the 12.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/each-teams-local-broadcasting-arrangement.html

The Nats are 17th in revenue.

If you look at the teams considered ahead of the Nats in TV revenue, the vast majority are in a fair amount of peril:

Angels, Braves, Cards, Cubs, Rangers are all on Bally’s.   They have an emergency hearing in July where the leagues want to end their contracts since they don’t think Bally’s is feasible without being on Comcast.

A’s contract ends this year with the move.

Astros now share a team owned network with the Rockets and are probably about the same as Nats and declining.

The Wilpons still own the Mets SNY channel and are trying to offload it.  They may shut it down or give it away.

Mariners were given their RSN for nothing and are probably more like 60 million and falling per year.

Orioles - pretty much in the same boat as the Nats as all the revenue goes to the teams now.


There are probably 5 teams that are in fairly good shape for the next 2-3 years:

Blue Jays are in good shape with a whole country of fairly avid fans.

Phillies are about the last NBC sports deal still standing.   They may be ok for a little longer, but NBC may try to get out of it at some point.

Yankees and Red Sox both are making some good money on their team owned RSNs for now, but that money is drying up every year.

Dodgers are making a boat load of money on a deal that isn’t even bringing in a quarter of the revenue that they are paying out.   For some reason, it doesn’t seem in trouble.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2024, 10:19:32 pm »
Langford hits for the cycle

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« Reply #129 on: July 07, 2024, 06:02:03 pm »
Skenes is an all-star

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« Reply #130 on: July 09, 2024, 01:34:26 pm »
Checking in on some of the other top picks from last year:
- Max Clark is still at low-A but should be promoted soon. .281 / .382 /.400 with an .842 OPS so far in July
- Walker Jenkins is also still at low-A but has posted an OPS of .821 so far
- Jacob Wilson is probably going to be in the majors soon - already at AAA and a .738 OPS with a .446 BA in his first 15 games / 65 ABs
- Rhett Lowder has made it to AA but is struggling with an ERA north of 6.85 in his first 10 starts at that level
- Chase Dollander is at A+ and has been dominant - 2.82 ERA / 0.61 WHIP in 67 innings across 13 starts
- Blake Mitchell stil at low-A, but with an OPS of .882 and 11 HRs already. Probably gets promoted soon.
- Noble Meyer dominated at A but has been challenged more at A+ - 4.41 ERA / 0.98 WHIP in his first four starts since getting promoted
   

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« Reply #131 on: July 11, 2024, 04:05:25 pm »
Skenes has a no hitter through 7 but is at 99 pitches.

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« Reply #132 on: July 11, 2024, 07:00:37 pm »
Skenes came out after 7 but the Pirates managed to hold on for a 1-0 win. Skenes is now 6-0 with a 1.90 ERA and 89 strikeouts already in just 11 starts.

Absolute stud.

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« Reply #133 on: July 12, 2024, 01:56:20 pm »
Skenes came out after 7 but the Pirates managed to hold on for a 1-0 win. Skenes is now 6-0 with a 1.90 ERA and 89 strikeouts already in just 11 starts.

Absolute stud.

Sigh. What could've been lol

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« Reply #134 on: July 12, 2024, 03:08:38 pm »
Heard earlier that skenes is going to start the all star game.

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« Reply #135 on: July 18, 2024, 11:55:00 pm »
A's are promoting Jacob Wilson.

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Wilson is the fifth player from the 2023 first round to reach the big leagues. The Angels pushed Nolan Schanuel there last summer, while Wyatt Langford, Paul Skenes and Hurston Waldrep have made their debuts this season. Wilson only needed 72 minor league games to convince the A’s that he is prepared for a look at MLB arms.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #136 on: July 19, 2024, 07:46:57 am »
A's are promoting Jacob Wilson.

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How's his D? Can Jacob Wilson pick it?

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« Reply #137 on: July 20, 2024, 03:55:08 pm »
Wilson gets a hit in his first AB, then pulls his hamstring running from third to home.

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« Reply #138 on: July 24, 2024, 03:49:56 pm »
Wilson landed on the IL after his debut with a hamstring strain.

Langford back into a slump: .207 BA / .594 OPS in his last 15 games.

Max Clark was promoted to high-A on July 21.

Chase Dollander was promoted to AA today.

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« Reply #139 on: July 26, 2024, 09:22:38 am »
Skenes #3 in MLB trade value series by Ben Clemens at FG.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2024-trade-value-nos-1-10/

Merrill #14, Chourio #25, Westburg #29, Winn #31, Langford #36.

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« Reply #140 on: July 26, 2024, 11:39:50 am »
Skenes took his first loss on Tuesday. 8.1 IP, 4H, 2ER, 0BB, 8Ks

Pirates lost 2-1

Wins are a useless pitching stat.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #141 on: August 04, 2024, 11:50:03 pm »
Skenes is human! Gave up 2ER in 5.1 today with 3BBs and 4Ks.

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« Reply #143 on: August 19, 2024, 11:58:38 pm »
Langford's last 30 games: .189 / .272 / .288 (.560 OPS). Might have needed some time in the minors?

Skenes is turning into a human as well. 4.15 ERA in his last 3 starts (8ER in 17.1 IP).

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« Reply #144 on: August 20, 2024, 07:10:28 am »

Skenes is turning into a human as well. 4.15 ERA in his last 3 starts (8ER in 17.1 IP).
Livvy has worn the poor dude out.

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« Reply #145 on: August 20, 2024, 07:12:01 am »
Livvy has worn the poor dude out.
Can't blame him for that.

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« Reply #146 on: August 26, 2024, 10:25:27 pm »
First time in 27 years that 3 of the top 4 picks got to the majors in their first pro year.

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« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2024, 10:58:40 pm »
With skenes only allowing 2 ER in 5 IP tonight, the Pirates led 10-3 going into the 7th. They lost 14-10.

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« Reply #148 on: August 29, 2024, 12:04:25 pm »
Reds are calling up Rhett Lowder to start on Saturday. Only one start so far at AAA but it was a 6 inning, 3 hit, 7K, 0BB, gem.

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Re: Skenes / Langford Watch (and other 2023 draftees)
« Reply #149 on: September 04, 2024, 08:03:58 am »
Langford with a walkoff grand slam to beat the Yankees last night.