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Offline imref

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« Reply #150 on: February 25, 2025, 02:36:36 pm »
Extend Crews!!

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Re: Boras Clients
« Reply #151 on: February 25, 2025, 02:39:17 pm »
Lol, wat

Crews hit .216 in 2024, and Wood is a butcher in the outfield...

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« Reply #152 on: February 26, 2025, 12:10:52 pm »
Why would you extend someone who has less than one full MLB season and a .216 BA during their limited time in the Bigs, or someone who has yet to show that they can field their position?


It's a "gamble", I'd rather extend one of them now before he becomes too pricey.

As for the .216 BA and the questionable defence, I'd argue that those are based on small sample sizes. There's a reason that these guys were both drafted in the first two rounds in their respective draft year.

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« Reply #153 on: February 26, 2025, 12:11:42 pm »
I think we have a better idea of what Luis Garcia is. And his contract would be less than half of what one of Crews or Wood would be.

I would like to see an aggressive extension of James Wood or Dylan Crews, but I don't see it happening. James Wood seems to be from a successful family and received a $2 million signing bonus when drafted, Crews $9 million. Neither is hurting, and I assume Boras has ways to help keep a guy like Wood from not blinking at big money.

I recognize both Wood and Crews have unlimited potential. But I'm not ready to hand them the bank before I see a bit more on the field. And neither of those guys are betting against themselves with some money in the bank.


Good point, a full season in 2025 will give us a better idea. But by the end of the season, Boras will likely up the price on both of them (assuming that they have a good season each)

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« Reply #154 on: February 26, 2025, 02:01:13 pm »

Good point, a full season in 2025 will give us a better idea. But by the end of the season, Boras will likely up the price on both of them (assuming that they have a good season each)
You're right. Maybe James Wood would be willing to do something like ... 8 for $140 million. Making that number up, just an example for a hypothetical. Buying out his rookie years and early FA. I'll call it Chourio plus, with a bit of major league performance added in and one less year of rookie money to buy out driving price up.

I can see a world where that works out okay for both sies. Wood is a really good, not great, hitter who is a negative defender. Maybe that number turns out right for everyone as it winds down.

I'd take that risk right now. So would Nationals. But if you're James Wood and you think you can get to average on defense and the bat is only getting better, that's a huge underpay. If you're the Nationals and he said, "Just another $10 mil over the length" you're probably scared he is bad defensively and develops a hole in his swing.

Signing guys really, really early makes sense. I just see it being hard in a contract discussion to make it happen. I do hope after this full season the Nationals make a hard move because I think if he is a big time bat then there is zero chance of him signing long term early unless you have a rookie year or two to buy out.

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« Reply #155 on: February 26, 2025, 02:11:14 pm »
You're right. Maybe James Wood would be willing to do something like ... 8 for $140 million. Making that number up, just an example for a hypothetical. Buying out his rookie years and early FA. I'll call it Chourio plus, with a bit of major league performance added in and one less year of rookie money to buy out driving price up.

I can see a world where that works out okay for both sies. Wood is a really good, not great, hitter who is a negative defender. Maybe that number turns out right for everyone as it winds down.

I'd take that risk right now. So would Nationals. But if you're James Wood and you think you can get to average on defense and the bat is only getting better, that's a huge underpay. If you're the Nationals and he said, "Just another $10 mil over the length" you're probably scared he is bad defensively and develops a hole in his swing.

Signing guys really, really early makes sense. I just see it being hard in a contract discussion to make it happen. I do hope after this full season the Nationals make a hard move because I think if he is a big time bat then there is zero chance of him signing long term early unless you have a rookie year or two to buy out.

Boras simply doesn't let his guys sign deals like that.   The only hope is for them to follow Garcia and drop him, otherwise it just isn't going to happen unless it is a ridiculously bad contract.

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Re: Boras Clients
« Reply #156 on: February 26, 2025, 02:22:58 pm »
Why are we so quick to sign a mid 700s OPS bat who can only play 2B? Like sure, if he wants to sign the Ruiz level extension, by all means. But beyond that, you're paying for performance at a position that is fairly east to come by.

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« Reply #157 on: February 26, 2025, 05:41:01 pm »
Boras does not sign guys like Wood, Crews, or LaViolette so they can sign potentially below market extensions.  None of these guys is doing some Ronald Acuna deal where they buy down some FA years.  9 times of out of 10, this means moving to Philly, NY, Boston, LA etc.  And nothing gets done without player friendly opt outs. 

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« Reply #158 on: February 26, 2025, 06:06:28 pm »
Boras does not sign guys like Wood, Crews, or LaViolette so they can sign potentially below market extensions.  None of these guys is doing some Ronald Acuna deal where they buy down some FA years.  9 times of out of 10, this means moving to Philly, NY, Boston, LA etc.  And nothing gets done without player friendly opt outs. 

For a guy in the minors, 9 figures would be hard to turn down especially if it was made clear that the alternative would be using all of your option years to hold off service time as long as possible. What’s the worst that would happen, a guy who already steers clients away would continue to do so?

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« Reply #159 on: March 03, 2025, 12:19:55 pm »
You're right. Maybe James Wood would be willing to do something like ... 8 for $140 million. Making that number up, just an example for a hypothetical. Buying out his rookie years and early FA. I'll call it Chourio plus, with a bit of major league performance added in and one less year of rookie money to buy out driving price up.

I can see a world where that works out okay for both sies. Wood is a really good, not great, hitter who is a negative defender. Maybe that number turns out right for everyone as it winds down.

I'd take that risk right now. So would Nationals. But if you're James Wood and you think you can get to average on defense and the bat is only getting better, that's a huge underpay. If you're the Nationals and he said, "Just another $10 mil over the length" you're probably scared he is bad defensively and develops a hole in his swing.

Signing guys really, really early makes sense. I just see it being hard in a contract discussion to make it happen. I do hope after this full season the Nationals make a hard move because I think if he is a big time bat then there is zero chance of him signing long term early unless you have a rookie year or two to buy out.


Indeed... I guess time will tell..

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Re: Boras Clients
« Reply #160 on: March 03, 2025, 08:32:29 pm »
Via TheNatsReport:
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BREAKING NEWS:

Sources tell the Nats Report that the Nationals have started preliminary talks for long-term extensions with Scott Boras on BOTH Dylan Crews and James Wood.

Gotta be a parody, right?

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« Reply #161 on: March 04, 2025, 11:38:39 am »
Via TheNatsReport:
Gotta be a parody, right?


Nats' management must've been reading my posts in this thread over the last week lol  :mg:

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« Reply #162 on: March 04, 2025, 11:52:59 am »
Via TheNatsReport:
Gotta be a parody, right?

We're negotiating for the Phillies now?

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« Reply #163 on: March 04, 2025, 12:34:42 pm »
We negotiate extensions with all of his clients, they just never go anywhere

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« Reply #164 on: March 04, 2025, 01:24:57 pm »
Via TheNatsReport:
Gotta be a parody, right?
"So, Scott, how about --" "10 years, $200 million a pop" "No"

Good convo!

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« Reply #165 on: March 04, 2025, 01:25:51 pm »
"So, Scott, how about --" "10 years, $200 million a pop" "No"

Good convo!

Hey Scott, will you take 10 years at league minimum? Oh well, we tried

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« Reply #166 on: March 04, 2025, 02:17:13 pm »
"So, Scott, how about --" "10 years, $200 million a pop" "No"

Good convo!
He'll take it with a player option following the last year of team control.

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Re: Boras Clients
« Reply #167 on: March 04, 2025, 04:02:29 pm »
"Preliminary talks" could mean Rizzo sent an email to Boras