Juan Soto, Yankee

[Senatorswin]

Gold Glove Finalist.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Gold Glove Finalist.

[nobleisthyname]

Has to be a troll job, right?

[imref]

Either that or RF is the absolute worst position in the AL.

[Senatorswin]

https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/sports/yankees-juan-soto-a-surprise-gold-glove-finalist-along-with-anthony-volpe-alex-verdugo/

[welch]

MLB.com lists some stats, using OF assists to make the case for Soto, but they seem to imply that Wilyer Abreu will get the GG.

RIGHT FIELD
Wilyer Abreu, Red Sox
Jo Adell, Angels
Juan Soto, Yankees

Abreu made his presence felt on the outfield grass for the Red Sox in his rookie season, leading right fielders with 18 Defensive Runs Saved and notching nine outfield assists. Adell (6 DRS) and Soto (10 outfield assists) also made positive contributions for their teams on the defensive side of the ball.

[imref]

Sportrac's projection for Soto's next contract: 14 years / $513.6M.

[nobleisthyname]

Sportrac's projection for Soto's next contract: 14 years / $513.6M.

That's at least $100M too low.

[HalfSmokes]

Half the teams no longer have reliable tv revenue, a few are richer than ever. The next CBA should be fun

[Senatorswin]

Sportrac's projection for Soto's next contract: 14 years / $513.6M.

That's about $36.6 million a year. He made $31 million this year. No way he signs for that.

[nfotiu]

That's about $36.6 million a year. He made $31 million this year. No way he signs for that.

They drag out a contract like that for 14 years to lessen the CBT hit.

Best case scenario, he is a superstar for 6-7 years, and a good player for a couple years and the rest is just a deferral.

So it's more like 6x70 for the superstar years and 3 by 30 for the good years, just paid out over 14.

I think that's a bigger contract than Ohtani's in real dollars, but less of a CBT hit.

If Boras is motivated to claim a bigger a bigger number than Ohtani, they could go something dumb like 60x12 with a bunch deferred for another 12 years.

[Natsinpwc]

Ohtani AAV is $46 million.  I know he can also pitch.  Don't see Soto taking less than $40 million AAV.  15 years at $40 million AAV makes for $600 million. 

[imref]

Bowden says 15/$622M - https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5863532/2024/10/24/mlb-free-agents-2024-contract-team-predictions-soto/

[nfotiu]

I imagine Ohtani's goofy deal makes for a lot of heated discussions between Boras and owners about what it's really worth as a comparable.

It all gets a little goofy as I'm sure Boras cares about making a splash about either the highest AAV, or the highest overall total.   But he needs to balance that out with owners who will want a longer term to bring the AAV down for CBT purposes.

[Slateman]

Ohtani AAV is $46 million.  I know he can also pitch.  Don't see Soto taking less than $40 million AAV.  15 years at $40 million AAV makes for $600 million. 

I feel like you can argue that Soto is more valuable (on the field) than Ohtani he was 29 when he signed. You're not going to get more than 3 or 4 years of pitching from a two time TJS guy. And I am now questioning how valuable he is as a DH when he pitches. On top of that, this is prime and he will plateau and decline over the contract.

It can be argued that Soto still isn't into his prime as a hitter, or is just hitting it. You get at least 5 years of this before you even think about age being an issue.

[HalfSmokes]

Ohtani AAV is $46 million.  I know he can also pitch.  Don't see Soto taking less than $40 million AAV.  15 years at $40 million AAV makes for $600 million. 

I'd be shocked if Ohtani pitches for more than another year or two

[Natsinpwc]

Bowden says 15/$622M - https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5863532/2024/10/24/mlb-free-agents-2024-contract-team-predictions-soto/

Yea, but he's drunk and I'm sober. 

[varoadking]

Yea, but he's drunk and I'm sober.

Not sure why he keeps getting mentions...he's right about as often as Lee Corso is on his college football picks...

[Slateman]

Yea, but he's drunk and I'm sober. 

That's no way to go through life

[imref]

Not sure why he keeps getting mentions...he's right about as often as Lee Corso is on his college football picks...

15 / $622 might not be that far off of what Soto eventually gets.

[Natsinpwc]

15 / $622 might not be that far off of what Soto eventually gets.

Yea but I said 15 years $600 million first.

[Natsinpwc]

Not sure why he keeps getting mentions...he's right about as often as Lee Corso is on his college football picks...

I watched a bit of gameday last Saturday. It’s really sad to see him up there.

[imref]

Yea but I said 15 years $600 million first.

oh wow? You are Jim Bowden?

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I'd be shocked if Ohtani pitches for more than another year or two

When he pitched, wasn't he held out of the DH spot not only on the day he pitched but also the day before? With a hitter as good as Ohtani, that's a lot of offense missing. Probably more than a third. that 50/50 becomes a 35/35 season. I'm sure he'll try to pitch because he enjoys it and he'll always want to try, but I can see the Dodgers maybe wanting to spot start him so to lose the bat less frequently.

[Slateman]

Yea but I said 15 years $600 million first.

Gonna be honest, I expect more than the NY teams to be players at that AAV