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« Reply #125: May 23, 2024, 12:23:59 PM »
Ultimately Soto should be directing his agent, not the other way around. But it sure seems like Boras wants to use Soto to get himself a record-setting contract in the wake of this past year's debacles.

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« Reply #126: May 23, 2024, 01:18:53 PM »
Soto will be 26 years-old in October. Boras will ask at least 13 years at $50 million a year for $650 million. He'll probably be at peak for about 8 more years. After that whoever signs him will have to be able to pay 5 years at $50 million for diminished results. Only a couple of teams will do that and one of them is not the Nats.

You have to wonder what baseball will look like in 6 years when so many guys like Judge, Harper, Turner, Machado, Ohtani, Nola and others will be making big bucks but no longer worth it.

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« Reply #127: May 23, 2024, 01:38:30 PM »

You have to wonder what baseball will look like in 6 years when so many guys like Judge, Harper, Turner, Machado, Ohtani, Nola and others will be making big bucks but no longer worth it.

Especially if there are teams consistently performing well without players in the range of what Boras now wants, and potentially outperforming those laden with such deals.

One message that I think should have been clearly conveyed to him last off-season was that having superstar deals like the Dodgers made may be outliers, but may not dictate a cascading effect to every other agent. That includes the apparent desire to normalize optouts that only benefit the player.

That of course would not stop Boras from perhaps dealing up smoke and mirrors hoping that the higher contracts like Ohtani and Soto will induce young and perhaps naïve players to sign with his agency as well as accept a model where they continue to stick it out until free agency rather than sign earlier.

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Re: Juan Soto, Yankee
« Reply #128: May 23, 2024, 03:50:28 PM »
Soto will be 26 years-old in October. Boras will ask at least 13 years at $50 million a year for $650 million. He'll probably be at peak for about 8 more years. After that whoever signs him will have to be able to pay 5 years at $50 million for diminished results. Only a couple of teams will do that and one of them is not the Nats.

You have to wonder what baseball will look like in 6 years when so many guys like Judge, Harper, Turner, Machado, Ohtani, Nola and others will be making big bucks but no longer worth it.

Add Trea Turner: $25 million a year for ten years...until he is 40.

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« Reply #129: May 23, 2024, 04:06:44 PM »
Add Trea Turner: $25 million a year for ten years...until he is 40.
The way salaries are going $25 millions in ten years will be comparable to $10 million today. 

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« Reply #130: May 23, 2024, 04:33:25 PM »
The way salaries are going $25 millions in ten years will be comparable to $10 million today. 

Football salaries are going up in line with tv contracts. NBA deals are literally a percentage of revenue and are about to skyrocket based on new TV deals. MLB deals are going up because....?

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« Reply #131: May 23, 2024, 04:40:32 PM »
Football salaries are going up in line with tv contracts. NBA deals are literally a percentage of revenue and are about to skyrocket based on new TV deals. MLB deals are going up because....?

Yep, looking at all the TV deal issues, one might suspect a market correction or two might surface

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« Reply #132: May 23, 2024, 05:33:42 PM »
Revenue went up ten percent in 2023.  The average age of fans is getting younger. Betting is attracting more and younger fans. It’s the only major sport for the summer.

Salaries never go down in pro sports. You can wait for a correction but it will never happen.

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« Reply #133: May 23, 2024, 06:25:40 PM »
Add Trea Turner: $25 million a year for ten years...until he is 40.

Yeah I had listed him in when I listed those guys. He makes $27 million a year. Like you say that will be until he's 40 and his defense has already declined. As the years go by his speed will also be less a factor. It could get ugly his last few years.

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« Reply #136: May 24, 2024, 08:10:59 AM »
Uhhh, about Soto staying with the Yankees:

https://sports.yahoo.com/yankees-owner-hal-steinbrenner-says-teams-payroll-3rd-in-mlb-not-sustainable-for-us-financially-224443070.html
This is called trying to spin it for the public in case you don’t sign him.   So they have been offering deals that he has turned down even though they don’t have the money?  Well ok.

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« Reply #137: May 24, 2024, 11:32:04 AM »
This is called trying to spin it for the public in case you don’t sign him.   So they have been offering deals that he has turned down even though they don’t have the money?  Well ok.

Along with keeping Cashman and Boone for all this time, setting up a spin about affordability while the Mets ownership has set up the way it has should go very well up there

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« Reply #138: May 24, 2024, 11:35:37 AM »
Along with keeping Cashman and Boone for all this time, setting up a spin about affordability while the Mets ownership has set up the way it has should go very well up there
Bidding war between those two and maybe others. The Phillies could afford him in 2026 after the Castellanos and Schwarber contracts end. Wonder if they would take the big luxury tax hit for a year. Also never know with the Dodgers. Red Sox? Giants keep missing out on big names. Don’t think he would want to play in that park.

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« Reply #139: May 24, 2024, 12:03:20 PM »
The other thing is teams like the Pirates and others should only be able to receive revenue sharing no more than two years and then have a period of five years where they're not eligible for it. Something like that.

Or probably a better solution is to require any team receiving revenue sharing must spend it on salary for players.

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« Reply #140: May 24, 2024, 12:18:40 PM »
The other thing is teams like the Pirates and others should only be able to receive revenue sharing no more than two years and then have a period of five years where they're not eligible for it. Something like that.

Or probably a better solution is to require any team receiving revenue sharing must spend it on salary for players.

What came out of this last agreement was the clarity that enough of those intending to bottom feed seemed to form enough of a block to make such forms a pain to get through, especially while the rest of the owners were dealing with the player negotiations. Thus, that seemed to kick all this down the road, and I would not hold my breath for actual reforms on that end rather than the bottom feeders and leeches resting in their hammocks.

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« Reply #141: May 24, 2024, 12:24:42 PM »
Bidding war between those two and maybe others. The Phillies could afford him in 2026 after the Castellanos and Schwarber contracts end. Wonder if they would take the big luxury tax hit for a year. Also never know with the Dodgers. Red Sox? Giants keep missing out on big names. Don’t think he would want to play in that park.

Castellanos isn't a free agent until 2027.

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« Reply #142: May 24, 2024, 12:30:49 PM »
Castellanos isn't a free agent until 2027.
My bad. Bad contract. 

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« Reply #143: May 24, 2024, 01:33:48 PM »
My bad. Bad contract.

Yeah, Schwarber's isn't great either but at least he's still an above average hitter and done after next season. Castellanos' contract is getting ugly.

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« Reply #144: May 24, 2024, 01:39:31 PM »
If they wanted to, they could move Schwarber. They could also package a prospect with Castellanos and move him too.


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« Reply #145: May 25, 2024, 10:16:21 AM »
Big night against the Padres last night including a long home run. Got a mixture of boos and cheers.

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Re: Juan Soto, Yankee
« Reply #146: May 25, 2024, 10:39:00 AM »
Big night against the Padres last night including a long home run. Got a mixture of boos and cheers.
Why would they boo? So strange

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« Reply #147: May 30, 2024, 11:38:36 AM »
Soto checks the Angels SS to block him from catching an infield fly, gets called out, and Boone gets ejected.

https://sports.yahoo.com/yankees-juan-soto-called-out-aaron-boone-ejected-on-another-bizarre-infield-fly-interference-play-021540848.html

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« Reply #148: May 30, 2024, 11:42:53 AM »
I don't get it.   Was there anything Soto could have done here that would not have got him out?   Any path back to base would have interfered.   If he had slid, then it would have probably had a worse result for the fielder.

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« Reply #149: May 30, 2024, 11:47:40 AM »
I don't get it.   Was there anything Soto could have done here that would not have got him out?   Any path back to base would have interfered.   If he had slid, then it would have probably had a worse result for the fielder.
he could have moved around the fielder, it looks like he hip-checked him.