2023-24 Off-Season Discussion

[imref]

a detailed look at 40-man and Rule5 draft issues.

https://www.talknats.com/2023/10/19/the-nats-made-roster-cuts-and-have-more-coming/

I didn't realize we could turn down Vic's option and still retain him under a final year of arbitration (estimate at $600k).

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I would hope Pineda stays protected.

really wonder if they would keep 4 catchers on the 40 man. Maybe you deal Adams at this point, but for the hamate?

[nobleisthyname]

really wonder if they would keep 4 catchers on the 40 man. Maybe you deal Adams at this point, but for the hamate?

I'd prefer to keep Pineda over Adams.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I'd prefer to keep Pineda over Adams.

that's pretty bold given how Adams hit last year, but I think Pineda may end up having a better career.

[nobleisthyname]

that's pretty bold given how Adams hit last year, but I think Pineda may end up having a better career.

It is, but I guess I just don't have much confidence in Adams keeping it up and he's the oldest of our catchers.

[Dave in Fairfax]

I would think they are considering whether to shift Adams or Ruiz to 1B/DH, so nominally carrying 4 catchers now might not be an issue in the longer run.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I would think they are considering whether to shift Adams or Ruiz to 1B/DH, so nominally carrying 4 catchers now might not be an issue in the longer run.

I think Slate has said he'd like to see Millas at 2nd or 3rd. He's that athletic. I'm thinking he could turn into a Varsho type. This is one of those questions that'd be good for discussion at a hot stove SPH event or in a Q&A with Svrluga / Janes / Golden. I'm guessing it'll all be clear a week or so after the WS once they cut down to the final 40 for the offseason.

[Slateman]

I think Slate has said he'd like to see Millas at 2nd or 3rd. He's that athletic. I'm thinking he could turn into a Varsho type. This is one of those questions that'd be good for discussion at a hot stove SPH event or in a Q&A with Svrluga / Janes / Golden. I'm guessing it'll all be clear a week or so after the WS once they cut down to the final 40 for the offseason.

If Millas can hit. Which I havent really seen. But if he can, then yes, I'd like to see him at third, maybe. But thats dependant on Ruiz becoming a decent MLB catcher

[JCA-CrystalCity]

He looked hitterish

[imref]

Per Andrew Golden, new 1B coach is Gerardo Parra.  New 3rd base coach is Ricky Gutierrez (was "run prevention coordinator" last season).

[nfotiu]

Per Andrew Golden, new 1B coach is Gerardo Parra.  New 3rd base coach is Ricky Gutierrez (was "run prevention coordinator" last season).

I didn't know that was a title!   Can we hire a "Score more runs than the other team" coordinator this year?   Like the Parra hire.   

[Senatorswin]

Good to see Parra back. Now go get Howie from the Phillies.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Good to see Parra back. Now go get Howie from the Phillies.

this!

[Five Banners]

this!

This x 2

[imref]

Starting to seem that Parra is being groomed to manage this team when Davey is done.

[Slateman]

Lol, why the freak is Parra even an option at this point? Jesus, this coaching staff . ..

[imref]

Per Zuck: Nats decline the $3.3 million option on Robles. He is still under team control as he has one year of arbitration eligibility left. Arb # is expected to be around $2.7 million

[sixthree175]

Per Andrew Golden, new 1B coach is Gerardo Parra.  New 3rd base coach is Ricky Gutierrez (was "run prevention coordinator" last season).

I hope we don't have to listen to the Baby Shark song ever again. 

[sixthree175]

Per Zuck: Nats decline the $3.3 million option on Robles. He is still under team control as he has one year of arbitration eligibility left. Arb # is expected to be around $2.7 million

The dust has settled.  MAT is superior to Victor Robles.  Emblematic of the state of the Washington Nationals.  Forget $2.7 million.  Is Robles even worth $1 million?

[Slateman]

The dust has settled.  MAT is superior to Victor Robles.  Emblematic of the state of the Washington Nationals.  Forget $2.7 million.  Is Robles even worth $1 million?

If a 96 wRC+ is worth 4.5 million, then Robles is worth a 2.7 million gamble.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-offseason-key-dates-free-agency-start-awards-winter-meetings-hall-of-fame-spring-training-and-more/#:~:text=Nov.%2014%3A%20The%20deadline%20for%20teams%20to%20add%20eligible%20minor,Draft%20is%206%20p.m.%20ET.

11/6 is the date for options to be exercised for the most part. Not so big for the Nats, but it'll make official who will be free agents on the market in addition to the guys whose contracts ran out.  Also the deadline for QOs to be offered, so we'll know whether a big name will cost a pick (deadline to accept / reject is 11/14).  Free agent signing by new teams starts.

11/14 - 6 PM deadline to add minor league players to the 40 man roster to protect them from the minor league draft.
Camerato identifies the following as names that must be added or get exposed - Made, Henry, Lara, Parker, and Brzykczy.
https://www.mlb.com/nationals/news/nationals-offseason-faq-2023

I guess that list is only partial and doesn't include no-brainer must adds like Herz.  I'd also think Holden Powell might be a tougher omission from the 40 man than some of the names she listed.
https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/depth-charts/nationals

We've mentioned before, but Cavalli, Strasburg, Riley Adams, Garrett, and Robles are on the 60 day IL and would need to be added.
https://www.mlb.com/nationals/roster/40-man

oh, and for completeness, this was posted in the offseason discussion thread.
https://www.talknats.com/2023/10/19/the-nats-made-roster-cuts-and-have-more-coming/

[Smithian]

Lol, why the freak is Parra even an option at this point? Jesus, this coaching staff . ..

What do you want them to do? Elevate an experienced manager of minor league club who has managed a clubhouse over hundreds of games in his minor league career? Hire an experienced coach let go in the LA or San Diego shakeups? No, you get the guy who was Rizzo's assistant last year.

[imref]

Golden:

The Nationals are expected to promote Eddie Longosz to lead the team’s player development department, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation.

Longosz has been Washington’s director of scouting operations since 2016.

[Count Walewski]

It's not uncommon for the 3B/1B coach roles to be filled by a beloved former player with few formal qualifications for the job.

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

Elaine Chao was beloved?

It's not uncommon for the 3B/1B coach roles to be filled by a beloved former player with few formal qualifications for the job.