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Offline IanRubbish

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Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« on: September 13, 2023, 05:19:59 pm »

Offline Senatorswin

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2023, 07:54:06 pm »
So DeGrom now Max can't pitch for the Rangers because of injury. The Rangers have never won the World Series having been in Texas since they left Washington after the 1971 season. They not only took the Washington players, the never winning anything also went with them. Good.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2023, 08:49:37 pm »
I don't know why teams keep making big bets on pitchers and quarterbacks being able to stay healthy and effective as they are approaching 40, and then being shocked when they go down.

Just because one or two beat the odds and made it past 39 or 40, doesn't mean it's not a long shot.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2023, 08:55:26 pm »
Nobody remember this sad little coda to Max's career. They will remember him dominating batters, entertaining fans, and winning a championship in Washington DC.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2023, 09:08:44 pm »
I don't know why teams keep making big bets on pitchers and quarterbacks being able to stay healthy and effective as they are approaching 40, and then being shocked when they go down.

Just because one or two beat the odds and made it past 39 or 40, doesn't mean it's not a long shot.

Seems like the big name players break spectacularly or under perform regardless of on field position. It'd be interesting to see a study on whether or not playing at 100% effort for the first six years of your career instead of playing at say 90% or so is an issue. Not sure how you track it but I have to think the guys doing non-stop insane training in the off season and beating their bodies up in the regular season with bruises, road rash, pulled muscles, etc. - what the cumulative damage is compared to people who play at a consistently high level but not utterly amazing. Kinda like in Golf - trying to swing at max power instead of an easy, smooth, 80% or so leads to tightness, bad form, injuries and bad results.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2023, 12:34:59 pm »
Nobody remember this sad little coda to Max's career. They will remember him dominating batters, entertaining fans, and winning a championship in Washington DC.
Yup, should be the Curly W on his cap when he gets inducted.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2023, 12:40:58 pm »
He's most definitely going into the ring. I don't think they should retire his uniform number.

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2023, 01:26:59 pm »
He's most definitely going into the ring. I don't think they should retire his uniform number.

I’d be quite fine with 31 joining 11 – – as well as 37, since he gave his all in a Nats uniform – – in the rafters as a retired number.

Wearing Nats uniform number 31, he had six all-star appearances, two Cy Young awards, overall wins leader twice, three straight years as NL strikeout leader, tied for most strikeouts in a nine-inning game, multiple no-hitters (and what some may consider a perfect game without the ump sufficiently acknowledging batter interference). 92-47, 2.80 ERA, 1610 Ks to 280 BBs, and 10 complete games.

More than the elite numbers was that he left it all on the field as a Nat, typified by the 2019 postseason. He pitched six times, which included keeping damage limited after the Wildcard first inning and staying in the fight for five innings. He got the “hold“ in NLDS Game 2 doing his bullpen session with a scoreless eighth in Los Angeles, then got the win in Game 4 of the NLDS tossing seven strong innings. He gave a truly remarkable NLCS Game 2 effort, flirting with a no-hitter and giving up no runs in seven innings with 11 strikeouts.

He outdueled Mr. unstoppable Gerrit Cole on the road in Houston in World Series Game 1 for his third straight postseason win. Then there was that whole thing about not pitching Game 5 because he couldn’t raise his arm above his shoulder, yet there he was, back on the mound in Houston for Game 7, giving the team five innings and only giving up two runs as they stayed in the fight and then finished it.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2023, 02:06:33 pm »
ok, you convinced me. :)

Howie needs to go in the ring too, and maybe Parra.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2023, 02:11:14 pm »
So DeGrom now Max can't pitch for the Rangers because of injury. The Rangers have never won the World Series having been in Texas since they left Washington after the 1971 season. They not only took the Washington players, the never winning anything also went with them. Good.

The curse on Bob Short continues. Wasn't it Baseball Bill who unrolled a banner saying "Short Stinks!" during the last game in 1971, and "Short Still Stinks!" at the first game that the "Texas Rangers" played in Baltimore"?

"May the Blue Bird of Paradise crap on your Shorts!"

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2023, 02:14:41 pm »
He's most definitely going into the ring. I don't think they should retire his uniform number.

I don't think the New Nats should retire any numbers. That is more a way to imitate the Yankees, but was never a Washington way.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2023, 03:13:23 pm »
I don't think the New Nats should retire any numbers. That is more a way to imitate the Yankees, but was never a Washington way.
yes. In DC we build monuments. The ring of honor is good. Maybe Scherzer can get a statue with 9 eyes, each a different color, in the spirit of 7 arm Walter Johnson.  either that, or do a "the Team-mates" kind of tribute to him and Stras like they have at Fenway for Williams, Doerr, Pesky and Dom D.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2023, 03:17:08 pm »
Just hasn't been durable since 2018. Father Time is undefeated

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2023, 11:30:57 pm »
Max was a fantastic free agent signing by the Nats. It will be great to see him go into the HOF as a Nat.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2023, 11:32:08 pm »
The curse on Bob Short continues. Wasn't it Baseball Bill who unrolled a banner saying "Short Stinks!" during the last game in 1971, and "Short Still Stinks!" at the first game that the "Texas Rangers" played in Baltimore"?

"May the Blue Bird of Paradise crap on your Shorts!"

I was at that last game when the banner went down. It was hilarious.

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2023, 11:35:14 am »
Well, seems like the Rangers didn't really need him for this Jays 4-game massacre... Jays were outscored 23 to 9.  :hysterical:

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2023, 11:36:43 am »
I was at that last game when the banner went down. It was hilarious.


You were at the last Senators game in DC? That's impressive, I was there at the last Expos game in Montreal in Sept.2004.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2023, 03:20:51 pm »

You were at the last Senators game in DC? That's impressive, I was there at the last Expos game in Montreal in Sept.2004.

I got the W avatar off the center field scoreboard when we rushed the field in the ninth inning that day.

I would of preferred an expansion team as opposed to getting a team from another city. MLB put two teams in Florida, neither of which draw crowds, instead of giving DC an expansion team. When it looked like the Expos would either be contracted or moved I used to read the Montreal Gazette sports page every day. I hope you can enjoy the former Expos, now Nationals. I would also love it if Montreal got another team. I would definitely go up there to see them.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2023, 04:42:23 pm »
Well, seems like the Rangers didn't really need him for this Jays 4-game massacre... Jays were outscored 23 to 9.  :hysterical:

Is that a Brad Wilkerson avatar?

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2023, 05:47:14 pm »
I got the W avatar off the center field scoreboard when we rushed the field in the ninth inning that day.

I would of preferred an expansion team as opposed to getting a team from another city. MLB put two teams in Florida, neither of which draw crowds, instead of giving DC an expansion team. When it looked like the Expos would either be contracted or moved I used to read the Montreal Gazette sports page every day. I hope you can enjoy the former Expos, now Nationals. I would also love it if Montreal got another team. I would definitely go up there to see them.

That's pretty interesting, not every day that you can "meet" another person who attended a last MLB home game before relocation.

Thanks for the kind words, I hope so but I don't think that it'll happen. That's why I'm on this site, actually  :mg:

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2023, 05:48:30 pm »
Is that a Brad Wilkerson avatar?

Yes that's Brad, he was my favourite player when I was a young kid in my teens.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2023, 07:56:53 am »
Yes that's Brad, he was my favourite player when I was a young kid in my teens.
Brad Wilkerson did a TV commercial for a local bank right after the team moved here in 2005, and I think about it every time I see that avatar. Wish I could find a clip.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2023, 12:38:40 pm »
Brad Wilkerson did a TV commercial for a local bank right after the team moved here in 2005, and I think about it every time I see that avatar. Wish I could find a clip.

No way, that's awesome lol, I googled it but didn't find anything.

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Re: Max Out for the Regular Season, and Probably Playoffs
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2023, 06:45:33 pm »
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Max Scherzer didn’t make the roster, as Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News (X link) writes that Scherzer isn’t ready for the start of the series, but could emerge by Game 3 in a relief role if an injury vacancy opens up on the Rangers’ roster.  Scherzer hasn’t pitched since September 12 due to a teres major strain, but though the injury was thought to be a probable season-ender, the superstar has been diligently strengthening his arm and throwing bullpen sessions.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/10/orioles-rangers-announce-alds-rosters.html