Rizzo Renewed by Marky Mark & the In-Laws

[Natsinpwc]

No one has refuted my point that it’s rare to have sustained success over a 15-20 year period.  The Braves had three consecutive 90 loss seasons from 2015-17.  Tampa was basically five hundred or below around the same time period for four years including a 90 loss season.  The Giants have had one winning season since 2017 I believe after winning three titles.  So yea the Nats are not a top five or ten organization in baseball.  We know that. If they had signed some veterans to make them a .500 team the last couple of years would that have made them closer to a real contender? No.  The test will be once the young guys are up will the owners give Rizzo the go ahead to sign free agents. He actually has a good track record with that. He’s not a top GM but he is not a bottom GM either.

[imref]

I think the crux of the issue is that the Nats aren’t even trying. If they had signed say an 3B, 1B, and a starter this past off season, we’d likely have a shot at a wild card. I get that they are waiting for the next core to develop but there’s no guarantee that happens.

And they need to lock up Abrams.

[Mattionals]

I think the crux of the issue is that the Nats aren’t even trying. If they had signed say an 3B, 1B, and a starter this past off season, we’d likely have a shot at a wild card. I get that they are waiting for the next core to develop but there’s no guarantee that happens.

And they need to lock up Abrams.

Ideally you would be signing players to short term deals while you develop talent, and then trade the players you sign short term deals with before the contract expires. The Nats have gone in the direction of signing a bunch of reclamation projects and hoping that they can flip them each season. So far, that has only worked with Candelario.

[varoadking]

I think the crux of the issue is that the Nats aren’t even trying.

It goes beyond that...they are deliberately not trying.

They haven't simply checked out...they are giving the fans base the finger.

In Marky's spring letter to the fans, he said this team would be fun to watch.  They are not...

[imref]

They are if you root for an opposing team. Maybe that’s what he meant?

[imref]

Ideally you would be signing players to short term deals while you develop talent, and then trade the players you sign short term deals with before the contract expires. The Nats have gone in the direction of signing a bunch of reclamation projects and hoping that they can flip them each season. So far, that has only worked with Candelario.

Lester too to be fair.

[Natsinpwc]

I think the crux of the issue is that the Nats aren’t even trying. If they had signed say an 3B, 1B, and a starter this past off season, we’d likely have a shot at a wild card. I get that they are waiting for the next core to develop but there’s no guarantee that happens.

And they need to lock up Abrams.

You’ve already penciled in Wood, Crews, House and Morales for 2025.  And now you want them to sign guys and contend for a wild card this year?  One year contracts? I guess that was possible.  We might have to revoke your Sunshine Squad privileges. 

We’re back in contention for a top pick for 2025.  Last year would have been the year to sign guys to make a run at wild card. 

[Natsinpwc]

Ideally you would be signing players to short term deals while you develop talent, and then trade the players you sign short term deals with before the contract expires. The Nats have gone in the direction of signing a bunch of reclamation projects and hoping that they can flip them each season. So far, that has only worked with Candelario.

Dollar General approach. 

[HalfSmokes]

Also isn’t it better to bottom out and get the high draft picks rather than staying in the middle and not being a real competitor?  People always scream for tanking until the losses come in large numbers.

I think only the Dodgers and Yankees have been competitive over the last 15 years.  Only the big money teams can stay on top. 

ask the braves

[imref]

Tampa has been pretty competitive without spending a ton of money.

[Mattionals]

Tampa has been pretty competitive without spending a ton of money.

Scouting and development.

[Natsinpwc]

ask the braves

Braves had three straight 90 loss seasons from 2015-17. Braves are 8th in payroll this year.  They are clearly spending money. 

[SkinsNatFan21RIP]

I think the crux of the issue is that the Nats aren’t even trying. If they had signed say an 3B, 1B, and a starter this past off season, we’d likely have a shot at a wild card. I get that they are waiting for the next core to develop but there’s no guarantee that happens.

And they need to lock up Abrams.

We all know what's going to ultimately happen with Abrams considering we watched it happen with all of our other players.

[HalfSmokes]

Braves had three straight 90 loss seasons from 2015-17. Braves are 8th in payroll this year.  They are clearly spending money. 

3 straight? Those poor fans

[Natsinpwc]

Scouting and development.

Shrewd trades also. They have picked many pitchers off the scrap heap and worked miracles.  They are the exception. Not the rule. 

[Natsinpwc]

3 straight? Those poor fans

Don’t be a buttercup.  If you were an Orioles fan you would have given up years ago. 

[HalfSmokes]

Don’t be a buttercup.  If you were an Orioles fan you would have given up years ago. 

With good reason. The way the nats tore down a World Series team is Marlinsesque. What they’ve done since then is a joke

[Natsinpwc]

With good reason. The way the nats tore down a World Series team is Marlinsesque. What they’ve done since then is a joke

Genius.  We got a number two overall pick and will have another top three pick in 2025. 

[HalfSmokes]

Genius.  We got a number two overall pick and will have another top three pick in 2025. 

Cool, we have a last place team and, now that Strasburg is retired, a bottom 5 payroll. For all of that, we gave a middling farm system

[Natsinpwc]

Cool, we have a last place team and, now that Strasburg is retired, a bottom 5 payroll. For all of that, we gave a middling farm system

Crews, Wood, House and Cavalli will all be all stars.  Morales right behind them. Young and Lipscomb and Rutledge filling in.  They will be writing stories about how Rizzo put it together.  Just say you believe.

[Natsinpwc]

Plus we are tied for third place. 

[IanRubbish]

Crews, Wood, House and Cavalli will all be all stars.

We don't know that, especially with Cavalli who has walked around 4 batters per 9 IP throughout his minors career.  All Stars maybe as the one team representative but while they're our most promising prospects, there aren't as many high ceiling prospects in the org as there should be.

[Natsinpwc]

We don't know that, especially with Cavalli who has walked around 4 batters per 9 IP throughout his minors career.  All Stars maybe as the one team representative but while they're our most promising prospects, there aren't as many high ceiling prospects in the org as there should be.

I’m to channel my sunshine mode. Don’t rain on my parade. 

[IanRubbish]

I’m to channel my sunshine mode. Don’t rain on my parade.

Fair enough, I hope you're right.

[Natsinpwc]

Fair enough, I hope you're right.

It won’t happen.