Jacob Young, Bonafide MLB'er?

[varoadking]

Crews should be the one they move...but they won't...

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Crews should be the one they move...but they won't...

I'll go with the statcast numbers and say the guy is going to be closer to a .260 hitter with a .200+ ISO, a ton of steals, HRs, and great defense.

[Natsinpwc]

Crews should be the one they move...but they won't...

Well he would actually bring a good return.  Young controllable guy with some power.  No doubt will turn into an all star in another town. 

[Slateman]

Honestly, I would rather see Lile get more at bats.

Young went 0-4 with 2 Ks. Tell me what the difference is if Crews plays CF for innings 1-8, and then shifts to RF with Young in CF for the 9th. This is his second full season. We know what Young is. And we certainly know that we don't have the coaching staff and analytics to substantially improve him.

Even on this hypothetical trade to the Phillies, he doesn't start every day. Rojas is their platoon against LHP. Young would be used the same way.

[Natsinpwc]

The Phillies are basically getting nothing out of their whole outfield.  Castellanos hits a bit but his defense offsets that. And JT has had a bad year.  And Stott.  And Bohm is up and down.  They are in first place based on starting pitching on a few hitters.  Schwarber. Harper.  Turner. So they need offense. Not really Jacob. 

I was just observing that a contender could possibly use if the rest if the lineup was strong.

[Natsinpwc]

The Phillies could actually use Call as I think about it.  Platoon with Kepler. 

[IdahoNat]

I mean Rosario batting 3rd is the most blatant advertisement to teams I've ever seen.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

The Phillies could actually use Call as I think about it.  Platoon with Kepler. 

you are onto something. I just don't know if they're want 5 OFs plus a dh.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

As for Lile, I am agnostic between him and Hassell as a long side of a platoon with Young or Call. I just don't think Call and Young can co-exist on a roster once Crews is back. Call does have options, so there's worse things than having more guys than playing time on the 26-man roster.

[IdahoNat]

As for Lile, I am agnostic between him and Hassell as a long side of a platoon with Young or Call. I just don't think Call and Young can co-exist on a roster once Crews is back. Call does have options, so there's worse things than having more guys than playing time on the 26-man roster.

I would like it if someone like Crews got moved to 1B but that will never happen cause it would be Rizzo taking the L for the Garcia trade.

[Slateman]

I would like it if someone like Crews got moved to 1B but that will never happen cause it would be Rizzo taking the L for the Garcia trade.

Why would we move a good fielding outfielder to 1B?

[IdahoNat]

Why would we move a good fielding outfielder to 1B?

To have a good fielding 1B similar to JT Snow? 

[JCA-CrystalCity]

To have a good fielding 1B similar to JT Snow? 

infield requires different skills than the OF. His speed would be useless at 1st and his jump on flies would be wasted. I think he can be an elite CF. Both Wood and Crews should be full time in LF and CF, but for Young.

[IdahoNat]

"Can we draft Eli Willits?"

"We already have Eli Willits at home."

[blue911]

To have a good fielding 1B similar to JT Snow? 

Name one good fielding first baseman that switched from the outfield at the major league level. Being a good outfielder doesn’t automatically translate to the infield.

[IdahoNat]

Name one good fielding first baseman that switched from the outfield at the major league level. Being a good outfielder doesn’t automatically translate to the infield.

I did in MLB the Show.
Plus why you replying to something from like a month ago.

[Slateman]

Name one good fielding first baseman that switched from the outfield at the major league level. Being a good outfielder doesn’t automatically translate to the infield.

Bryce Harper

[blue911]

Bryce Harper

Harper wasn’t a quality defender in the outfield. He had a huge arm but a negative OAA. And is in the negative this season at first. I’m don’t like bashing Harper on something that has never been his strong point. But let’s try not rewrite history.

[Natsinpwc]

Harper wasn’t a quality defender in the outfield. He had a huge arm but a negative OAA. And is in the negative this season at first. I’m don’t like bashing Harper on something that has never been his strong point. But let’s try not rewrite history.

He was good the last two season at 1B. DRS was positive.  Injuries taking a toll I think. 

[blue911]

He was good the last two season at 1B. DRS was positive.  Injuries taking a toll I think.

No. Here was average at best. DRS and OAA don’t tell the whole story. He had only 10 assists to second and started no ground ball double plays. Both numbers were below Dominic Smith who played less than half as many innings as Harper.

Stop trying to glorify Harper and name a legitimate person.

[nobleisthyname]

No. Here was average at best. DRS and OAA don’t tell the whole story. He had only 10 assists to second and started no ground ball double plays. Both numbers were below Dominic Smith who played less than half as many innings as Harper.

Stop trying to glorify Harper and name a legitimate person.

DRS and OAA don't tell the whole story but they tell 80% of it. Harper having positive values in those stats means he converted more outs than the average first baseman would have given the same opportunities. And at the end of the day getting outs is the primary job of pitching and defense.

[Natsinpwc]

No. Here was average at best. DRS and OAA don’t tell the whole story. He had only 10 assists to second and started no ground ball double plays. Both numbers were below Dominic Smith who played less than half as many innings as Harper.

Stop trying to glorify Harper and name a legitimate person.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders-legacy.aspx?pos=1b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2024-01-01&enddate=2024-12-31&sort=8,d

Sorting on this he was fourth defensively last year per fangraphs.

[blue911]

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders-legacy.aspx?pos=1b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2024-01-01&enddate=2024-12-31&sort=8,d

Sorting on this he was fourth defensively last year per fangraphs.

Ok. Again that is only one of many measurements and it’s comparative not definitive. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King.

[Natsinpwc]

Ok. Again that is only one of many measurements and it’s comparative not definitive. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King.

Well yea it’s comparative. Isn’t that the point.  I believe it’s UZR and already cited DRS.. Unlike double plays started which are kind of random and dependent on other fielders and the runner speed. Using the same chart he’s number 15 this year.  He’s perfectly adequate as a 1B defensively no matter what your eyes say.

[blue911]

Well yea it’s comparative. Isn’t that the point.  I believe it’s UZR and already cited DRS.. Unlike double plays started which are kind of random and dependent on other fielders and the runner speed. Using the same chart he’s number 15 this year.  He’s perfectly adequate as a 1B defensively no matter what your eyes say.

No. Another poster stated that Dylan Crews would be good at first base because he was a good outfielder.

I couldn’t come up with an example so I threw out to the board. Fixating only on Bryce makes me think that the conversion isn’t that easy and there’s no correlation to support that theory. I mean if it was, all of us could name a half dozen off the top of our heads.