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What Position Players Should Be Dropped From The 40 Man?

Dom Smith
8 (42.1%)
Carter Kieboom
4 (21.1%)
Luis Garcia
1 (5.3%)
Vic Robles
5 (26.3%)
Other
1 (5.3%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: October 10, 2023, 09:27:11 AM

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Offline aspenbubba

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Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Topic Start: September 10, 2023, 09:27:11 AM »
My vote is Dom Smith. His BA with RISP is less than .150. Totally useless offensively for a position that requires some POP.

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #1: September 10, 2023, 09:28:48 AM »
Of these options it's definitely Smith. The others you can at least squint and see some universe where they end up being useful to the Nats.

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #2: September 10, 2023, 10:09:51 AM »
Dom

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #3: September 10, 2023, 10:15:05 AM »
My vote is Dom Smith. His BA with RISP is less than .150. Totally useless offensively for a position that requires some POP.

Yes, it’s Smith but I wouldn’t blame anyone wishing Robles into the cornfield. 

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #4: September 10, 2023, 10:16:11 AM »
Robles was actually an above average hitter before getting injured though

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« Reply #5: September 10, 2023, 10:32:01 AM »
Robles was actually an above average hitter before getting injured though

Yep. With him, it’s just the degree of disappointment and frustration relative to performance, even if he is actually not a total loss. Just hoping he departs soon once the team develops clearly better MLB-ready 
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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #6: September 10, 2023, 10:41:42 AM »
The Lerners. Sell the team.


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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #7: September 10, 2023, 10:43:09 AM »
Id be fine with all of them not coming back. I think Call or Toung can play defense as well, and I dont think Robles can sustain what he did this season. At least not to that level. Wouldnt mind Rizzo getting that 3 million and putting it towards a free agent

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #8: September 10, 2023, 10:49:54 AM »
The Lerners


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« Reply #11: September 10, 2023, 12:56:34 PM »
I could make a case for any of them staying around. I think Smith is an asset on the defense, and Robles looked like he was perhaps breaking through offensively. But, are these guys the best use of the money and roster space?

There would be maybe $6-7 million tied up in Smith and Robles in the last year of arbitration for Smith and $3 million in the Robles option.  Last year, the 1st basemen who signed in the $5-$9.3 million range were, low to high, Andrew McCutcheon, Matt Carpenter, Carlos Santana, Trey Mancini, Wil Myers, Brandon Drury, and Brandon Belt. All were 1-2 years. Myers, Mancini, and Carpenter were bad, Belt was excellent, and Drury and McCutcheon were good, so call these signings coin flips. You might be able to sign Ji Man Choi on a bounceback contract, or take a shot at Garrett Cooper for a little more but easily in that price range. hoskins I think would cost a bit more, at least 10 million,  even coming off injury because he's a much better hitter.

Kieboom has not shown anything in the majors and really nothing since 2019 in Fresno*. With both him and Garcia, as well as Smith, it's more a case of what do you have to replace them with?

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #12: September 10, 2023, 01:13:34 PM »
Here is something that has not been floated previously. I did a quick comparison of Smiths numbers vs. Stone Garrett. If Garett has recovered by ST enough to play but maybe limited as his leg and ankle are not 100%. Let him play 1B and his cost is MLB minimal.

              AB’s.     BA.    RISP.     HR

SMITH    470      .260.    .181.     7

GARRETT. 234    .269      .338.    9

I think it maybe telling on several fronts. Smith is useless offensively and we had Adam La Roche Adam Lind Adam Dunn Matt Adams and Josh Bell on 1B at one time.

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #13: September 10, 2023, 01:47:44 PM »
Should add Trevor Williams to this

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #14: September 10, 2023, 01:55:29 PM »
Should add Trevor Williams to this

That’s for another poll for throwers only

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« Reply #15: September 10, 2023, 03:54:43 PM »
That’s for another poll for throwers only

Tossers

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #16: September 10, 2023, 04:00:18 PM »
Kieboom. He is useless. Alu and Vargas can field 3B and both play other positions.

Dom at least plays superior defense. Robles might have something, although his injury seems like more than back spasms. Maybe it is similar to the baxk injury that flattened House. Garcia is another "maybe"

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #17: September 10, 2023, 04:46:56 PM »
Garcia's too young to give up on.  Robles actually started to hit this year, so it'd be kind of a shame to finally cut ties all of a sudden.

With the other two, flip a coin.  Dom can't hit well enough to justify keeping him around for his defense, and Kieboom just sucks and should probably join the Chris Marrero/Kory Casto/Larry Broadway cavalcade of failed corner infield prospects who didn't pan out.

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #18: September 10, 2023, 08:17:57 PM »
All but Garcia. And I'm no longer high in Garcia


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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #20: September 11, 2023, 07:28:39 AM »
...and we had Adam La Roche Adam Lind Adam Dunn Matt Adams...

Looks like as long as there's an Adam in there, somewhere... ;)

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #22: September 11, 2023, 08:36:56 AM »
All but Garcia. And I'm no longer high in Garcia
I'm not attached to any of them, but it's more a question of "Do we need the roster spot for a prospect?" or "is it worth some amount of money to upgrade the position?"

1st base / DH always has a shot in the dark FA. TBH, I'm sort of liking what I'm seeing from Blankenhorn and wonder about him platooning with Meneses at 1st when, we hope, Garrett is back in a corner OF slot. Certainly would work on the Lerners apathetic vision of "we don't care who is running the show as long as they don't ask us to invest in it anymore."

Has any of the websites that track the system posted an article on potential 40 man roster adds?

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« Reply #23: September 11, 2023, 09:20:03 AM »
So no comments on Garrett playing 1B? Slate, JCA, I'm Ref, Welch???

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Re: Who Would You Prefer Not Coming Back in 2024
« Reply #24: September 11, 2023, 11:29:48 AM »
So no comments on Garrett playing 1B? Slate, JCA, I'm Ref, Welch???
dude can handle the outfield. Runs very well. Let's see how the leg heals, but if he's running well I see no need for him to give up a corner outfield spot. Let's leave 1st for someone who lacks the outfield skills. I expect Garrett to start in left if he heels properly.