Author Topic: College Football 2023-2024 (Read 17710 times)

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #350 on:** December 23, 2023, 10:53:10 am »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on December 23, 2023, 10:45:17 am

Florida, and the rest of the SEC are probably going to their recruits as well as clemson’s and reminding them that if they want to play for a national championship, they aren’t at Florida state

aren't the playoffs expanding next year? I think what happened this year was a result of the way the 1 losses split. With a 6 team or 8 team playoff, FSU gets in.

I'm guessing FSU thinks there's more of a likelihood that they would never get in with a loss or not winning the ACC championship. Certainly not a 2 invite league.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #351 on:** December 23, 2023, 10:58:51 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on December 23, 2023, 10:53:10 am

aren't the playoffs expanding next year? I think what happened this year was a result of the way the 1 losses split. With a 6 team or 8 team playoff, FSU gets in.

To 12 teams. Georgia, Missouri, and Mississippi would all be in as well as Alabama and Texas and Oklahoma. Florida State would be the only ACC team. Going by next year’s alignment, the Big10 gets 5, the SEC gets 6, and the ACC gets 1. The Big12 gets 0

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/news/2023/12/3/cfp-rankings-2023-1203.aspx

1995hoo · « **Reply #352 on:** December 23, 2023, 11:20:16 am »

It’s interesting to see that the ACC filed a declaratory judgment action against FSU the preceding day in Charlotte. So now we have a forum battle as well.

Count Walewski · « **Reply #353 on:** December 23, 2023, 11:20:25 am »

FSU missed the playoffs because they don't have a QB, not because the committee thinks the ACC sucks. Most years, an undefeated ACC champ doesn't just get in, they're the #1 seed.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #354 on:** December 23, 2023, 11:28:36 am »

Quote from: Count Walewski on December 23, 2023, 11:20:25 am

FSU missed the playoffs because they don't have a QB, not because the committee thinks the ACC sucks. Most years, an undefeated ACC champ doesn't just get in, they're the #1 seed.

FSU got shut out because Alabama’s loss was to Texas and the committee was never going to leave the SEC out and they couldn’t invite Alabama and leave Texas out

imref · « **Reply #355 on:** December 23, 2023, 12:13:59 pm »

And Alabama had just beat the #1 team in the country

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #356 on:** December 23, 2023, 12:23:13 pm »

The whole Texas > Alabama > Georgia thing really was a worst case scenario for FSU.

UMDNats · « **Reply #357 on:** December 23, 2023, 12:30:00 pm »

I do enjoy seeing the ACC totally unravel. A conference run by good ole boys, strictly for the benefit of said good ole boys, can't believe it's dying right before our eyes. Sucks to suck broke bois.

Duke should join the Big East for basketball and RIP to schools like Wake and BC in terms of big-time athletics.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #358 on:** December 23, 2023, 12:31:25 pm »

FSU has been complaining about not having a bigger share of the TV rights. Does the SEV want them? Let’s see how many times they can win 10 games in the SEC. Probably zero.

UMDNats · « **Reply #359 on:** December 23, 2023, 12:34:08 pm »

FSU is going to beg to get into the SEC and Big Ten and end up in the Big 12 with probably a worse TV deal but at least the Big 12 has serious people running the show and not just a dude's failson.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #360 on:** December 23, 2023, 12:39:09 pm »

Quote from: Count Walewski on December 23, 2023, 11:20:25 am

FSU missed the playoffs because they don't have a QB, not because the committee thinks the ACC sucks. Most years, an undefeated ACC champ doesn't just get in, they're the #1 seed.

Correct. One of Alabama or Texas would have been out if FSU did not lose their QB. Of course the ACC has slipped in football.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #361 on:** December 23, 2023, 12:47:59 pm »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on December 23, 2023, 12:39:09 pm

Correct. One of Alabama or Texas would have been out if FSU did not lose their QB. Of course the ACC has slipped in football.

Louisville losing to Kentucky was just as big. A team in the ACC title game coming off a loss to a bad SEC team was not a good look

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #362 on:** December 30, 2023, 03:46:16 pm »

I know the portal and opt outs factor in, but Penn State and Ohio State losing to the SEC may not bode well for Michigan.

imref · « **Reply #363 on:** December 30, 2023, 04:29:42 pm »

Ohio State played without most of their top offensive players. The game was meaningless.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #364 on:** December 30, 2023, 04:49:52 pm »

Quote from: imref on December 30, 2023, 04:29:42 pm

Ohio State played without most of their top offensive players. The game was meaningless.

Tell that to the Buckeyes media and fans.

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/platform/2023/12/30/24019546/ohio-state-cotton-bowl-embarrassing-ryan-day-major-changes-hot-seat-transfer-portal-play-calling

imref · « **Reply #365 on:** December 30, 2023, 05:19:31 pm »

And this is why the committee didn’t put FSU in the playoff.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #366 on:** December 30, 2023, 05:52:13 pm »

Quote from: imref on December 30, 2023, 05:19:31 pm

And this is why the committee didn’t put FSU in the playoff.

Going forward, I wonder if the team losing the Sec or big 10 championship just starts cheap shorting the other teams’ qb. A blatant late hit may an ejection, but it might also get an bid to the playoffs

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #367 on:** December 30, 2023, 06:22:33 pm »

Quote from: imref on December 30, 2023, 05:19:31 pm

And this is why the committee didn’t put FSU in the playoff.

You said these games don’t matter. Doesn’t FSU have many players sitting out including the QB?

imref · « **Reply #368 on:** December 30, 2023, 10:25:24 pm »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on December 30, 2023, 06:22:33 pm

You said these games don’t matter. Doesn’t FSU have many players sitting out including the QB?

They played their 3rd string qb, a freshman, but iirc their top two are both hurt.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #369 on:** December 30, 2023, 10:30:22 pm »

Quote from: imref on December 30, 2023, 10:25:24 pm

They played their 3rd string qb, a freshman, but iirc their top two are both hurt.

The second string opted out

GataNats · « **Reply #370 on:** December 30, 2023, 11:56:38 pm »

Quote from: imref on December 30, 2023, 10:25:24 pm

They played their 3rd string qb, a freshman, but iirc their top two are both hurt.

That was their fourth string guy. They played essentially their scout team. College football is dead

Count Walewski · « **Reply #371 on:** December 31, 2023, 06:25:11 pm »

It's curious to me that FSU was far more affected by opt-outs than Georgia. FSU had much more to play for. This was a truly meaningless game for Georgia, whereas if FSU had won they would have been declared national champions by at least one selector and would have been viewed as the true national champion by tens of millions of Americans.

I know that last year, Bama boosters used NIL to ensure that Bryce Young and friends would still play in Alabama's meaningless bowl game. Did something similar happen with UGA? If so, FSU's NIL operation just got embarrassed.

In any event, the future of non-playoff bowl games is probably a showcase for young/upcoming talent. Fans will watch them to see their future stars make what may be their first start against a good team. People watch and travel to spring training games so I don't see why the same model couldn't work for the Pop Tarts Bowl or Holiday Bowl.

See also the disparity between how Georgia and Ohio State treated their meaningless bowl games.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #372 on:** December 31, 2023, 06:45:18 pm »

FSU had zero to play for because college football has more in common with figure skating than the NFL. They didn’t bribe the French judges so their season ended

I wouldn’t be so positive that this will be limited to non-playoff teams. If the 12th or 11th seed has a players in the portal and with better NIL offers, they’re sitting. I’m really hoping we get to the point we’re a QB on a highly seeded team sits out rather than risk an NIL deal. It will be even better if they plan on transferring to their opponent

imref · « **Reply #373 on:** December 31, 2023, 10:10:13 pm »

Arch manning is the backup for Texas tomorrow. Their original #2 is in the portal.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #374 on:** January 01, 2024, 07:45:18 am »

The bowl games also give teams an opportunity for a bunch of extra practices which helps the younger guys especially. It’s basically an add on to spring practice.