Author Topic: 2024 MLB Draft (Read 9872 times)

imref · « **Reply #200 on:** July 16, 2024, 03:32:28 pm »

Royalty arrives in the district: Nats select Sir Jamison Jones, C (high school) in the 15th round.

imref · « **Reply #201 on:** July 16, 2024, 04:33:02 pm »

Nats pick the second coming of H-ROD in the 16th - Nolan Hughes - LHP - Xavier (OH) University, 65Ks and 52BBs in 35.1 IP last year.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #202 on:** July 16, 2024, 04:41:43 pm »

Do any of these 3rd day draftees look like the kind of picks you throw some extra money at? Seems very college oriented.

I thought Haas was supposed to look for high schoolers?

imref · « **Reply #203 on:** July 16, 2024, 04:42:46 pm »

17th: LHP Gavin Bruni from Ohio State. 52.1IP, 54Ks, 42BBs

I sense a pattern.

imref · « **Reply #204 on:** July 16, 2024, 04:43:27 pm »

18th: Teo Banks, OF out of Tulane, yeah, all college guys.

imref · « **Reply #205 on:** July 16, 2024, 04:59:25 pm »

19th: Brendan Lawson, HS SS ranked 156. Guess we may spend some slot money afterall

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Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 45 | Run: 45 | Arm: 50 | Field: 45 | Overall: 40

Logan Wagner moved to P27 Academy (Lexington, S.C.) for his senior season in 2022, then parlayed his bat into an over-slot $500,000 bonus from the Dodgers in the sixth round. Lawson hoped to chart a similar course after arriving from Canada, but he came down with a serious sinus infection in January that sapped his strength and swing and eventually required surgery. All that made him difficult to scout this spring, though he did return and performed well in a mid-May Perfect Game tournament.

Lawson is an advanced prep hitter with a disciplined approach and an unusual setup at the plate. He holds his hands above his head before starting his left-handed stroke, though that doesn't stop him from barreling balls with regularity. Some evaluators think he'll develop into a 20-homer threat, while others question his bat speed and think he has more fringy power.

With fringy speed and average arm strength, Lawson is unlikely to remain at shortstop in pro ball. The Florida recruit has good hands and can make some plays at short, but he'll probably lose a step as he adds more muscle to his wiry 6-foot-3 frame. He projects as more of a third baseman or left fielder in the long run.

imref · « **Reply #206 on:** July 16, 2024, 05:15:02 pm »

Final pick (20th) is Colby Shelton, 3B out of Florida. Ranked 133 so another over-slot guy:

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Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 50 | Run: 40 | Arm: 50 | Field: 45 | Overall: 45

Shelton began his college career at Alabama and established his power bona fides by hitting 25 home runs and finishing with an OPS north of 1.100 as a freshman. He entered the transfer portal and decided on the University of Florida as his new home for his Draft-eligible sophomore season. He showed up in Gainesville in better shape and got a lot of reps at shortstop this fall to help his Draft stock, though his uneven performance at the plate has limited his helium.

Shelton’s carrying tool remains the power in his left-handed bat. When he showed up last fall with a more flattened out stroke, rather than his previous swing, which was much steeper in the zone, there was hope he might show more barrel consistency. He doesn’t have elite-level bat speed, but there’s at least average power for him to get to, and while the pop has shown up to an extent, the strikeout rate has hovered around the 25 percent he posted at Alabama. He does draw some walks to help offset it a little, but scouts are concerned about his ability to make enough contact to reach his power consistently.

While a slimmed down version arrived in Florida, Shelton displays just average athleticism, though he maximizes every bit of it. The Gators feel he showed enough to play shortstop for them every day, though scouts feel his pushy arm that plays average is a touch short for the premium spot at the next level. He’s played third previously and some feel he’s best suited for second, where he could be an offensive-minded middle infielder with some thump.

Looked like most of the remaining top-250 who weren't previously drafted went in the 19th and 20th rounds.

imref · « **Reply #207 on:** July 16, 2024, 05:16:50 pm »

Nats went really heavy on hitters this year, which makes sense given our hitting at the lower levels of our system is pretty atrocious.

imref · « **Reply #208 on:** July 16, 2024, 09:05:21 pm »

Saw earlier that only Lomavita is represented by Boras.

RD · « **Reply #209 on:** July 16, 2024, 10:07:25 pm »

I'm not sure what to think about King. I was in the Griffin/Rainer camp, then Rainer/Montgomery once he was still there.

The athleticism/speed/power upside is there but I do wonder a bit about the hit tool at the higher levels and bigs. You can survive in college and lower levels by chasing and still putting the ball in play. We'll see how it plays. He does only have the one year at the D1 level, so maybe just more experience against top tier talent will help him settle in more. Id hope he sticks at SS and moves 2b if need be long term. He had a little hype as a top 10 pick earlier in the year so it's not a bad pick, but as the draft fell, I wouldve taken Rainer or Montgomery over him.

I'm surprised at the lack of pitching earlier on. Even more surprised at 2 catchers in the top 4. They both seem to be good values at their spots, so not complaining.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #210 on:** July 17, 2024, 01:10:15 am »

both catchers we drafted are athletic enough to handle other positions without being liabilities if their bats can carry them.

plus we got two of the top 4 catchers on the board, both of which have a real shot to be long-term catchers AND they were good value at the spots they were drafted at.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #211 on:** July 17, 2024, 11:59:28 am »

11 out of the 20 picks were pitchers, but as RD notes, they were all later on.

Does Haas sort of figure TINSTAAPP and go for late quantity in pitching and early quality in positional players? Grayson Rodriguez in 2018 was the last 1st round pitcher the Os have taken.

imref · « **Reply #212 on:** July 17, 2024, 12:24:45 pm »

Todd Boss has been doing a nice job providing analysis of the Nats' picks.

http://www.nationalsarmrace.com

He hasn't been real happy so far.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #213 on:** July 17, 2024, 01:42:57 pm »

Until King and Montgomery have a track record that shows otherwise, there's going to be a lot of questioning that move, and, as RD points out, passing on Ranier if you are taking a SS will also be questioned.

imref · « **Reply #214 on:** July 17, 2024, 05:40:13 pm »

Carlos Colazzo:

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The #Nationals signed 9th rounder Jackson Ross for $2,000. Slot value for the 260th pick is $198,600.

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The #Nationals signed 10th rounder Luke Johnson for $2,000. Slot value for the 290th pick is $185,200.

varoadking · « **Reply #215 on:** July 17, 2024, 05:51:31 pm »

Quote from: imref on July 17, 2024, 05:40:13 pm

Carlos Colazzo:

$196,600.00 was deferred...indefinitely...

Guessing the 11th pick had to pay the Nats $2,000.00 to get signed...

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #216 on:** July 17, 2024, 05:56:21 pm »

Quote from: imref on July 17, 2024, 05:40:13 pm

Carlos Colazzo:

are these really $2000 or $20,000?

Slateman · « **Reply #217 on:** July 17, 2024, 06:40:18 pm »

Gotta be 20K. Like ... thats freaking brutal if its not.

imref · « **Reply #218 on:** July 17, 2024, 06:42:46 pm »

Explanation:
https://x.com/CarlosACollazo/status/1813673567990481040

Basically college seniors with no other options are getting minimal deals.

varoadking · « **Reply #219 on:** July 17, 2024, 06:56:41 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on July 17, 2024, 06:40:18 pm

Gotta be 20K. Like ... thats freaking brutal if its not.

In 2023, the Nationals signed 6th rounder Gavin Dugas to a $20,000 deal. Slot value for the 165th pick is $357,500.

So $2,000 may indeed be the going rate for the 260-290 senior picks...

imref · « **Reply #220 on:** July 18, 2024, 08:29:58 am »

King coming to DC on Thursday to sign his deal.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #221 on:** July 18, 2024, 08:45:34 am »

Quote from: imref on July 18, 2024, 08:29:58 am

King coming to DC on Thursday to sign his deal.

imref · « **Reply #222 on:** July 18, 2024, 09:02:41 am »

I was thinking more Mel Brooks.

Senatorswin · « **Reply #223 on:** July 19, 2024, 12:03:38 am »

Well shut my mouth. USA Today has an article on rating the draft. Different reporters gave their opinion on the draft.

Under the heading "The Best Drafts of 2024" Adam Wells of Bleacher Report gave the Nationals an A-.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/2024-mlb-draft-grades-roundup-233431761.html

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #224 on:** July 19, 2024, 08:07:44 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on July 19, 2024, 08:03:59 am

Ghost Mears at Talk Nats has some pretty good internal Nats sources. It looks like he's buying the line that this was a great pick.
https://www.talknats.com/2024/07/18/the-draft-room-erupted-into-applause/
Seems very psyched about the top 4 picks.

The Bazzell pick has drawn a lot of praise. The Dickerson pick is the one where the Nats "draft room erupted with applause" as they had played a game letting him slide to #44 and grabbing Lomavita at #39. King and Lomavita were rated #17 and #18 by Baseball America, so if we are knocking King as a bit of a reach, then we should probably be praising grabbing him at #39. If the Nats are right about King, then the next few picks make this look like a terrific draft for positional players. Between Lomavita and Bazzell, we have a good shot at getting a catcher who can step up over Ruiz, and between King and Dickerson, there should be a decent MI.