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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #51: June 20, 2023, 11:35:49 AM »
Wizards talking to GS about a CP trade

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #52: June 20, 2023, 11:51:24 AM »
Wizards talking to GS about a CP trade
the warriors roster isn't old enough yet?

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #54: June 20, 2023, 12:31:10 PM »
Do you mean the Clippers? 

https://hoopshype.com/2023/06/20/wizards-clippers-in-talks-for-chris-paul-trade/

Yes, you are correct, Clippers, not Warriors.

There are several reports that the Jazz are trying to trade up from #9 to take Anthony Black who has been on the Wizards radar for a while. The Jazz have the 9th and 16th picks. Maybe there's a deal to be had?

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #55: June 20, 2023, 12:48:43 PM »
Yes, you are correct, Clippers, not Warriors.

There are several reports that the Jazz are trying to trade up from #9 to take Anthony Black who has been on the Wizards radar for a while. The Jazz have the 9th and 16th picks. Maybe there's a deal to be had?
I would trade back rather than take Black.  Reports are Cam Whitmore might be slipping. I would take him or Hendricks. Haven’t really seen the G League guys or Thompson twins. 

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #56: June 20, 2023, 03:20:36 PM »
Kuzma declines his option and is now a free agent.

Blown it up good, real good....

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #57: June 20, 2023, 03:22:47 PM »
Kuzma declines his option and is now a free agent.

Blown it up good, real good....
That seemed inevitable.  No way they can sign him in a rebuild. 

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #58: June 20, 2023, 03:27:36 PM »
That seemed inevitable.  No way they can sign him in a rebuild. 
sign and trade is a possibility

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #59: June 20, 2023, 03:31:36 PM »
sign and trade is a possibility
Not sure there is any advantage to another team. It only works if the player can sign for more years or more money with the Wizards who would then trade him. Don’t believe it applies to Kuzma. Should have traded him during the year.

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« Reply #60: June 20, 2023, 03:33:37 PM »
Not sure there is any advantage to another team. It only works if the player can sign for more years or more money with the Wizards who would then trade him. Don’t believe it applies to Kuzma. Should have traded him during the year.
Or maybe it does apply?  I don’t know.

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2023/6/20/23767509/espn-reports-kuzma-has-declined-player-option-and-will-become-a-free-agent

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #61: June 20, 2023, 03:51:21 PM »
TBH, if they are talking something 4 years, $100 million, I think that's very close to Malcolm Brogdon's salary over 2 more years. Celts are looking for forwards and may be moving guards. They also are willing to trade more 2d rounders and some depth / young pieces, I think. Brogdon would be flippable.

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #62: June 20, 2023, 04:12:13 PM »
TBH, if they are talking something 4 years, $100 million, I think that's very close to Malcolm Brogdon's salary over 2 more years. Celts are looking for forwards and may be moving guards. They also are willing to trade more 2d rounders and some depth / young pieces, I think. Brogdon would be flippable.

Everyone knows that the smart teams build around second rounders

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #63: June 20, 2023, 04:25:10 PM »
Everyone knows that the smart teams build around second rounders
Jokic
Draymond Green.


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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #64: June 20, 2023, 04:26:13 PM »
Jokic
Draymond Green.



Sure, and the vast majority end up never making a roster let alone contributing

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« Reply #65: June 20, 2023, 05:18:54 PM »
Sure, and the vast majority end up never making a roster let alone contributing
That’s what you want so many lottery tickets. Let’s be happy Ernie was not around to trade their first round pick.  Tommy tried but at least it’s protected. The good teams tend to stockpile the second round picks and then use them in trades. Ted used to just sell them for cash.

https://hoopshabit.com/2023/02/14/nba-teams-valuing-second-round-picks/#:~:text=Second%2Dround%20picks%20are%20becoming,have%20first%2Drounders%20to%20deal.

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« Reply #66: June 20, 2023, 06:26:40 PM »
That’s what you want so many lottery tickets. Let’s be happy Ernie was not around to trade their first round pick.  Tommy tried but at least it’s protected. The good teams tend to stockpile the second round picks and then use them in trades. Ted used to just sell them for cash.

https://hoopshabit.com/2023/02/14/nba-teams-valuing-second-round-picks/#:~:text=Second%2Dround%20picks%20are%20becoming,have%20first%2Drounders%20to%20deal.

You want first round picks- the kind Beal should have been traded for if the FO had a spine. The Wizards having an abysmal front office has been a constant for the past 40 years, and the new one appears to be more of the same

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #67: June 20, 2023, 08:22:33 PM »
You want first round picks- the kind Beal should have been traded for if the FO had a spine. The Wizards having an abysmal front office has been a constant for the past 40 years, and the new one appears to be more of the same
You have to accept that there were only two or three destinations for Beal and he had final say. Keeping him on the team and sitting him on the bench would further ruin the teams reputation. No contending team was going to have any top first round pick. It’s the fault of the prior regime for giving a decent player a super max AND a no trade clause. Give the new front office a chance. They have been there for like 5 minutes.

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #68: June 21, 2023, 02:25:43 PM »
Wiz and Celtics discussing a deal for KP per Shams Charania of The Athletic.

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #69: June 21, 2023, 02:33:50 PM »
Wiz and Celtics discussing a deal for KP per Shams Charania of The Athletic.
KP is interesting. I thought Kuzma for Brogdon made sense.

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I broke this at the draft lottery post because what's behind the Wiz, it's not important.



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Finberg on what the wizards could get for Tingus:
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Pick No. 30 (via LAC)
• pick No. 35 (via BOS)
• pick No. 48 (via LAC)
• Expiring salary of Marcus Morris
• Up to 2 future first-round picks (via BOS)

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Finberg on what the wizards could get for Tingus:
Just call us the teenyboppers next season.

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Re: Re: Wizards (2022-2023)
« Reply #73: June 21, 2023, 03:23:37 PM »
KP is interesting. I thought Kuzma for Brogdon made sense.
If they are keeping Jaylen Brown then Kuzma is unnecessary. 

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Deni, at age 22, is the longest tenured Wizard.