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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #275 on: July 22, 2024, 10:28:28 am »
Manfred seems to be counting on Nats/Os rights being bundled into a national bundle of in market rights once he gets enough teams to buy in.

I doubt MASN carries on in it's current form more than a season or two, and RSNs will pretty much die off in general once ESPN goes partially standalone with Venue this fall or fully standalone next year.

I don't think Ted Leonsis has any idea what he's doing.   He has a bunch of Middle East money and a notion that he can somehow monetize a DC metro channel/service, but it would be best for the Nats to stay far away from that as it likely falls apart once he realizes it's not really viable.

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« Reply #277 on: September 13, 2024, 08:46:02 pm »
Haha

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #279 on: September 13, 2024, 09:11:03 pm »
Not sure if this link is working:
https://kfbk.iheart.com/content/2024-09-12-report-why-the-deal-to-bring-the-as-to-west-sacramento-may-be-in-jeopardy/


Seems crazy if there's a new owner to the coliseum MLB wouldn't want to negotiate with them to see if they can work something out for next year.

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #280 on: September 14, 2024, 12:35:52 pm »
MLB shooting down Boras and union claims that Sac might not happen.

https://fox40.com/athletics-sacramento/mlb-affirms-athletics-move-sacramento/

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« Reply #281 on: September 14, 2024, 01:16:14 pm »
MLB shooting down Boras and union claims that Sac might not happen.

https://fox40.com/athletics-sacramento/mlb-affirms-athletics-move-sacramento/


I’m really hoping there is a grievance over facilities after it’s too late to move back to Oakland.

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« Reply #282 on: September 14, 2024, 04:45:41 pm »

I’m really hoping there is a grievance over facilities after it’s too late to move back to Oakland.

This is all going on and they still don't have Vegas resolved.  Remarkable how MLB has let this turn into such a *** show.

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #283 on: September 14, 2024, 05:06:09 pm »
Move the Athletics back to Philadelphia, sharing that stadium with the Phillies.

Or find a stadium somewhere in the East Bay with a base of A's fans...

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« Reply #284 on: September 14, 2024, 10:19:46 pm »
Or find a stadium somewhere in the East Bay with a base of A's fans...

They proposed Fremont 15 years ago, which is still Alameda County, same county as Oakland, but much closer to the tech industry in the South Bay, San Jose and Silicon Valley.  Fell apart.  Land costs now would be prohibitive and it doesn't have the infrastructure to support it.

The rest of the East Bay is mountains, NIMBYs, super expensive land, or anti-development wokesters and hippies.  The East Bay also has a ton of Giants fans, it's not like Orange County where the Angels have a clear advantage over the Dodgers.  Wealthy parts of the East Bay like Walnut Creek, Danville, and Orinda are all Giants country in spite of being closer to Oakland.

Most viable spot in Oakland is the Colosseum site, but the neighborhood has deteriorated and even the fast food places nearby have started to close.  The only In-N-Out in company history to close is near the Colosseum, and shut down earlier this year.

The root of the problem is Vegas doesn't really want them, and Salt Lake makes a lot more sense.  It has no NFL competition like Vegas, and would welcome any team, whereas the feeling in Vegas is they're getting someone else's team.   But baseball has a thing about Vegas and they got $350 million from the state.  If they went to Salt Lake they wouldn't have the heat issues, and there's a AAA park to play in so they wouldn't have to move cities again.  But MLB has no idea what they're doing with this.

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« Reply #285 on: September 15, 2024, 08:37:26 am »
Usually it’s the owners driving relocation, but Fischer is next level incompetent. If he wasn’t born into money, he’d be flipping burgers

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #286 on: September 15, 2024, 11:53:09 am »
Usually it’s the owners driving relocation, but Fischer is next level incompetent. If he wasn’t born into money, he’d be flipping burgers
and it would have been at the one In-and-Out that closed. :lol:

SLC would be a nice location. I would guess a nice stadium could be built, perhaps even suitable for a winter olympics venue.

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« Reply #287 on: September 15, 2024, 11:54:09 am »
They proposed Fremont 15 years ago, which is still Alameda County, same county as Oakland, but much closer to the tech industry in the South Bay, San Jose and Silicon Valley.  Fell apart.  Land costs now would be prohibitive and it doesn't have the infrastructure to support it.

The rest of the East Bay is mountains, NIMBYs, super expensive land, or anti-development wokesters and hippies.  The East Bay also has a ton of Giants fans, it's not like Orange County where the Angels have a clear advantage over the Dodgers.  Wealthy parts of the East Bay like Walnut Creek, Danville, and Orinda are all Giants country in spite of being closer to Oakland.

Most viable spot in Oakland is the Colosseum site, but the neighborhood has deteriorated and even the fast food places nearby have started to close.  The only In-N-Out in company history to close is near the Colosseum, and shut down earlier this year.

The root of the problem is Vegas doesn't really want them, and Salt Lake makes a lot more sense.  It has no NFL competition like Vegas, and would welcome any team, whereas the feeling in Vegas is they're getting someone else's team.   But baseball has a thing about Vegas and they got $350 million from the state.  If they went to Salt Lake they wouldn't have the heat issues, and there's a AAA park to play in so they wouldn't have to move cities again.  But MLB has no idea what they're doing with this.
build the darn stadium at the Altamont Pass. Lots of windmills for power, the Hell's Angels could supply security.

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #288 on: September 15, 2024, 01:43:16 pm »
Without drilling down into this thread, I'm a bit surprised that San Jose hasn't made a move here.  You'd almost think that public financing of baseball stadiums was a bad deal. 

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« Reply #289 on: September 15, 2024, 02:13:24 pm »
Usually it’s the owners driving relocation, but Fischer is next level incompetent. If he wasn’t born into money, he’d be flipping burgers

Too incompetent for fast food, more like welfare recipient.

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« Reply #290 on: September 15, 2024, 03:31:11 pm »
Without drilling down into this thread, I'm a bit surprised that San Jose hasn't made a move here.  You'd almost think that public financing of baseball stadiums was a bad deal. 

San Jose is Giants territory. The A’s asked and the Giants said no

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #291 on: September 15, 2024, 04:57:16 pm »
San Jose is Giants territory. The A’s asked and the Giants said no

Not just Giants territory per MLB rules, but in terms of fan support.


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« Reply #292 on: September 16, 2024, 11:36:11 am »
There's got to be somewhere in NoCal.  Bakersfield.  They can change the name from A's to CDCR's.

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #293 on: September 16, 2024, 12:44:51 pm »
They should find a place up there with Seattle. They're all by themselves up there.

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #294 on: September 16, 2024, 02:42:27 pm »
They should find a place up there with Seattle. They're all by themselves up there.
knowing the As management, they'll try to get away from splitting the bay area market and end up in Tacoma. That or move to Vancouver, the island and not the city.

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #295 on: September 16, 2024, 03:04:32 pm »
Can we interest them in Rochester?

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Re: The Vegas Athletics
« Reply #298 on: October 14, 2024, 06:07:00 pm »
OD tickets in Sac expected to be $$

https://www.si.com/mlb/athletics/news/a-s-opening-day-tickets-in-sacramento-won-t-come-cheap-01j9g5kxt0d4


I don't understand how tickets can be listed on Stubhub when the tickets haven't gone on sale yet. How does that work?

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« Reply #299 on: October 15, 2024, 06:18:22 am »

I don't understand how tickets can be listed on Stubhub when the tickets haven't gone on sale yet. How does that work?

The seller cancels the sale if they can’t get the tickets. It happens all the time, this is just a really blatant example