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« Reply #125: June 27, 2023, 03:54:44 PM »
Ward has no business being in the bullpen, so Rule 5 or not, they need to ditch him for now.  They can always work a trade to keep him if they think he has long-term potential.  The team can't afford another Henry Blanco, especially in the bullpen.

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« Reply #126: June 27, 2023, 04:00:25 PM »
Ward has no business being in the bullpen, so Rule 5 or not, they need to ditch him for now.  They can always work a trade to keep him if they think he has long-term potential.  The team can't afford another Henry Blanco, especially in the bullpen.

Ward has gotten worse as the season has gone on as well.

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« Reply #127: June 27, 2023, 04:02:34 PM »
Ward has no business being in the bullpen, so Rule 5 or not, they need to ditch him for now.  They can always work a trade to keep him if they think he has long-term potential.  The team can't afford another Henry Blanco, especially in the bullpen.
What difference does it make this year?  And do they have anyone better to replace him?

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« Reply #128: June 27, 2023, 05:17:18 PM »
What difference does it make this year?  And do they have anyone better to replace him?
arguably, they have better to replace him, but there's no way in heck you lose him to bring up another #8 reliever. Just spot him in pure mop up spots for a season. This team will be down 4+ runs late enough this year for him to get enough work. It's his first full season after TJ. The control will come back next year. the sinker is good. no way he even gets back to Boston. You waive him before you offer him back, and somebody will grab him for the bottom of the bullpen.

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« Reply #129: June 28, 2023, 12:41:54 PM »
Ward has no business being in the bullpen, so Rule 5 or not, they need to ditch him for now.  They can always work a trade to keep him if they think he has long-term potential.  The team can't afford another Henry Blanco, especially in the bullpen.

Why not?  He eats innings in some of the many games that are already lost by the time they get to him.  Every team has a last man out there and most of them are used for similar mop-up.

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« Reply #130: June 29, 2023, 03:51:53 PM »
JEsse D reporting that Jose Ferrer is on his way up for the Philly series. No report on who is being sent down.  Already on the 40 man roster.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/06/29/lane-thomas-nationals-trade/

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« Reply #131: June 30, 2023, 05:27:49 PM »
JEsse D reporting that Jose Ferrer is on his way up for the Philly series. No report on who is being sent down.  Already on the 40 man roster.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/06/29/lane-thomas-nationals-trade/

Corbin to the bereavement list

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« Reply #132: June 30, 2023, 05:47:08 PM »
Corbin to the bereavement list
sad way for your first call up. THe news about Ferrer coming up broke yesterday early, so Corbin may have pitched his game Wednesday with this on the horizon.

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« Reply #133: June 30, 2023, 05:57:49 PM »
sad way for your first call up. THe news about Ferrer coming up broke yesterday early, so Corbin may have pitched his game Wednesday with this on the horizon.
What happened?

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« Reply #134: June 30, 2023, 06:30:13 PM »
What happened?
don't know other than he's on the bereavement list

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« Reply #137: July 04, 2023, 12:12:11 PM »
Corbin returns from bereavement list.  Ferrer stays up as Ward goes to the il with right shoulder inflammation

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« Reply #138: July 04, 2023, 02:10:28 PM »
Why not?  He eats innings in some of the many games that are already lost by the time they get to him.  Every team has a last man out there and most of them are used for similar mop-up.

Sent to 15-day IL, and might stay on the IL until the end of the season. Jesse D.

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As has become routine, Washington shuffled its pitching staff a bit before the series began. Patrick Corbin, scheduled to start Tuesday, returned from the bereavement list. But instead of sending Jose Ferrer back to Class AAA, the club placed reliever Thaddeus Ward on the injured list with right shoulder inflammation. The Nationals have had to carry Ward all season because they selected him in December’s Rule 5 draft. Ward, though, had been active for 95 days, meaning he could spend the rest of the year on the IL and stay with the club beyond this season.


That’s not necessarily the Nationals’ plan. But to remain with their new team, Rule 5 picks have to be active for at least 90 days and accrue a full year of major league service. Ward will keep collecting service time on the shelf, whether he sticks with the club or heads to Florida for an extended rehab. The bullpen, meanwhile, now has eight pitchers with unrestricted workloads. Ward underwent Tommy John surgery in 2021, so Washington had been cautious with him, using him for 30⅓ innings across 22 appearances. That has amounted to about seven outings per month, most of them in mop-up situations.

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“I need to clean up my mechanics a lot,” Ward said Monday. “I am really good about my mechanics with my pregame work. I’m really good about warming up to go into the game. But when I get into the game, it’s a totally different story from when I’m warming up. So I need to clean that up. A lot of mechanic stuff leads to a lot of injury stuff.”

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« Reply #139: July 04, 2023, 08:47:07 PM »
Alex call coming back up per talknats

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« Reply #140: July 05, 2023, 09:57:20 AM »
Alex call coming back up per talknats

Sad for Hill, but Call at least hits .220.

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« Reply #141: July 05, 2023, 10:25:00 AM »
Alex call coming back up per talknats
Sad for Hill, but Call at least hits .220.
IS it for Hill, or is it for Dickerson?

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« Reply #142: July 05, 2023, 10:26:55 AM »
Sad for Hill, but Call at least hits .220.
When Call was sent down, he was hitting .209

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« Reply #143: July 05, 2023, 12:40:00 PM »
When Call was sent down, he was hitting .209

Closer to .220 than Hill's .170. His average lifted because he got hits in his last three games. Call plays a clean CF, and ought to hit .220 or even .230. That's good enough, for now.

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« Reply #144: July 05, 2023, 12:49:24 PM »
IS it for Hill, or is it for Dickerson?

No official roster move yet. Maybe the Nats have had an offer for Dickerson? He is hitting about .250 with an OPS of about .650. That's not a lot but it is higher than Call or Hill.

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« Reply #145: July 05, 2023, 03:06:48 PM »
Derek Hill DFA'd

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« Reply #146: July 05, 2023, 03:41:33 PM »
Derek Hill DFA'd
https://www.mlb.com/nationals/roster/transactions

Tough. I don't think this is so much his lack of hitting as trying to send a message about the team's defensive mental errors. Hill was the least valuable guy to sacrifice. Dickerson hits lefty and they still think they can deal him, and Abrams is untouchable (not that it's his fault the OFs didn't play a fly that he ended up having to unsuccessfully track down). 

OTOH, in 50 PAs in Rochester, Call had a .388 OBP, with a 14%:8% K:BB. I guess they figure his eye is back.

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« Reply #147: July 05, 2023, 04:00:02 PM »
I think they consider Abrams' defensive mental errors to be fixable with maturity. He's trying too hard to make the big dramatic plays and maybe the adrenaline rush is causing him to overthrow.

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« Reply #148: July 06, 2023, 08:12:36 PM »
Adon coming up per talknats

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« Reply #149: July 06, 2023, 09:17:10 PM »
DFA Smith. He is batting .149 with runners in scoring position. Absolutely worthless to the team. Has no pop and the occasional HR is usually in garbage time.