2023 Regular Season (Non-Nats)

[Natsinpwc]

It’s pretty normal for teams to put players on waivers this time of year to see if there’s any trade interest.

Yup. Giolito and Reynaldo Lopez were just put on waivers.

[Natsinpwc]

Claim them and go 32-0

Take a look at their stats. 

[aspenbubba]

I’m thinking that Giolito could take up some of the slack as Gore Gray and Irvin tire in September. I also think Lopez would be better than any of our back end relievers

[nfotiu]

It’s pretty normal for teams to put players on waivers this time of year to see if there’s any trade interest.

This seems different than years past or early in season waivers.   They just lose them for nothing apparently.

Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
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For the Angels, this will be a pure salary dump. Because there are no longer any August trades, all they will get from the transactions is salary relief. Teams that claim the players will need only pay their salaries for the rest of the season.

[Mattionals]

This seems different than years past or early in season waivers.   They just lose them for nothing apparently.

Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
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For the Angels, this will be a pure salary dump. Because there are no longer any August trades, all they will get from the transactions is salary relief. Teams that claim the players will need only pay their salaries for the rest of the season.

Revocable waivers were nixed after 2019. Now it is as Passan said, a pure salary dump. The only incentives here are to put in a claim so a team with a better record doesn't get the player. You can't use waivers to judge value anymore because the controlling team can't "pull the player back", and even if a player passes through the claim period, the player is then released and becomes a free agent.

[Natsinpwc]

FWIW, Grichuk and Renfroe are both in the lineup tonight.

[nfotiu]

Why not make things really interesting and put Ohtani on waivers too at this point!?

[Mattionals]

Why not make things really interesting and put Ohtani on waivers too at this point!?

Something else interesting about Ohtani. The Angels won't put him on waivers because they got nothing back at this point and since they decided at the deadline to pull him off the market, they will want to get draft pick compensation for Ohtani when he absolutely walks into free agency. Thing is, if LAA pays into the CBT, they get a pick after the fourth round, and if they aren't paying into CBT, they get something prior to the third round. It's something like 60 spots of difference. Also, LAA is right over the threshold right now, and the potential savings if all these players are claimed, would likely put them under, therefore getting a better pick for Ohtani.

[Slateman]

Why not make things really interesting and put Ohtani on waivers too at this point!?

They wont move him because they get a comp pick for him

[nfotiu]

Something else interesting about Ohtani. The Angels won't put him on waivers because they got nothing back at this point and since they decided at the deadline to pull him off the market, they will want to get draft pick compensation for Ohtani when he absolutely walks into free agency. Thing is, if LAA pays into the CBT, they get a pick after the fourth round, and if they aren't paying into CBT, they get something prior to the third round. It's something like 60 spots of difference. Also, LAA is right over the threshold right now, and the potential savings if all these players are claimed, would likely put them under, therefore getting a better pick for Ohtani.

That is interesting, and may well be a factor in making these moves.

[nfotiu]

Further to that, that assumes they'd offer him a QO.   Might he accept it, get his surgery, keep his money for not playing and hit free agency the following year?

[Natsinpwc]

Further to that, that assumes they'd offer him a QO.   Might he accept it, get his surgery, keep his money for not playing and hit free agency the following year?

It will be interesting to see what he decides. He might have the surgery in October and figure he can be back mid May. Using the Harper timeline. Or he could just try and play through it.  Someone will pay him.

[GataNats]

I’m thinking that Giolito could take up some of the slack as Gore Gray and Irvin tire in September. I also think Lopez would be better than any of our back end relievers

Lopez is fking awful

[aspenbubba]

Lopez is fking awful

Struck out 19 in 11 2/3 innings while posting a 2.31 ERA with the Angels.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Lopez isn't the starter we thought we traded, but he ended up a pretty effective reliever. Walks are high this year, but his K rate is up. Consistent 18-20% (K-BB)%. He was brilliant in 2022 and for the Angels in this short stretch. No way on Earth somebody doesn't grab him for a month.

[Mattionals]

Lopez should absolutely be someone the Nats target in the offseason to help the bullpen out. Giolito is probably going to be a bad contract, because someone will try to buy him on those years where he looked like a number 2, but if you could reasonably land Giolito on a Trevor Williams style deal, the Nats should totally be in on that. Again, I doubt that is what will happen, as some stupid team is probably going to give him money that resembles buying a number 2, but his days of number 2 starter are long behind him. That is of course, unless the Rays sign him, because they will turn him into the next Charlie Morton.

[OfftheBat]

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1697297908624773242?t=jJvTQYZhNfXpdju9Q3dG-g&s=19

Wow lol, Guardians are trying to win the AL Central.

[Slateman]

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1697297908624773242?t=jJvTQYZhNfXpdju9Q3dG-g&s=19

Wow lol, Guardians are trying to win the AL Central.

Oh they're starting now?

[Natsinpwc]

Giolito had a 7.00 ERA with the Angels. Are you sure they are not trying to tank?

[JCA-CrystalCity]

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1697297908624773242?t=jJvTQYZhNfXpdju9Q3dG-g&s=19

Wow lol, Guardians are trying to win the AL Central.

they are not making up 5 games.  It's not much money, so maybe lightening will strike, but the did not deal for Thomas, so they are not serious.

[OfftheBat]

lol yeah it is laughable, not sure what exactly the people of the Guardians' front office are thinking with this. Can't wait until MLB fixes those divisions, the AL Central is a joke.

[OfftheBat]

https://twitter.com/JeffWilsonTXR/status/1697807743246344486?s=20

Seems like something's wrong with Scherzer.. ?

[Senatorswin]

Austin Voth DFA'd by the Orioles.

[GburgNatsFan]

As great and tough as Max was, he's fatigued at the end of the last few seasons, no?

https://twitter.com/JeffWilsonTXR/status/1697807743246344486?s=20

Seems like something's wrong with Scherzer.. ?

[OfftheBat]

As great and tough as Max was, he's fatigued at the end of the last few seasons, no?

Indeed, it'll be interesting to see him perform in the playoffs this year, given his bad playoff performance with the Mets last year.