NL East: 2023

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Braves walk it off in the 12th.

[Dave in Fairfax]

16-inning game between the Padres and Dodgers on 25 August 2021. Justin Turner was the ghost runner. AJ Pollock homered, so the ghost runner didn't make that much of a difference, except that the Padres were down 2 runs instead of 1 when they came up.

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Nats are 2.5 back of the Mets and marlins and 1.5 back of Philly.

[Slateman]

https://twitter.com/braves/status/1655927309998649344?s=46&t=RwenXlBiMhdLuBJ4PK2CAw

Fried shut down with a forearm strain.

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https://twitter.com/braves/status/1655927309998649344?s=46&t=RwenXlBiMhdLuBJ4PK2CAw

Fried shut down with a forearm strain.

Make a move Rizzo!

[Slateman]

https://twitter.com/nypost_mets/status/1656004125836943364?s=46&t=pus3YyMpxQmD-FdsXGvVDw

Max is hurt too

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https://twitter.com/nypost_mets/status/1656004125836943364?s=46&t=pus3YyMpxQmD-FdsXGvVDw

Max is hurt too

they mentioned on the FG chat that his velocity is down a couple of MPH this year so far. Age might be finally catching up with him.

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https://twitter.com/braves/status/1655927309998649344?s=46&t=RwenXlBiMhdLuBJ4PK2CAw

Fried shut down with a forearm strain.

Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
Fried's MRI didn't create any concern about possibly needing a second TJ surgery. He will be shut down from throwing until his forearm heals. He'll then have to build back up and basically go through Spring Training again. So, timetable is TBD. But this won't be a short-term IL

[Natsinpwc]

Phillies and Mets will play in the 2024 London Series.  Hope they leave the hooligans home.  Did not realize there was a London Series this year. Cubs and Cards. 

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Phillies put closer Jose Alvardo on the IL with elbow soreness.

Finnegan for Schwarber?

[Natsinpwc]

Phillies put closer Jose Alvardo on the IL with elbow soreness.

Finnegan for Schwarber?

Seems a light return for Finnegan.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Seems a light return for Finnegan.

Schwarber would say that's the first time "light" has been used with his name

[welch]

Mets (and Yankees) slump as expensive starting pitchers go off with injuries. Is Carlos Rodon somewhat like Patrick Corbin? He is being paid $160 million over six years, but he can't pitch. Max has been in and out, although the Mets made him the highest paid pitcher ever.

The Mets, with the highest payroll in major league history (and a record tax bill to come) went on to lose, 2-0, completing a brutal three-game sweep in Detroit. They have lost nine of their last 11 games and have seen their deficit to Atlanta in the National League East climb from half a game through play on April 22 to six games after the Braves completed a three-game sweep of the Marlins with a 6-3 win on Thursday afternoon in Miami.

Note that the Times thinks the Mets are chasing the Braves. They did not notice that the Nats are closing in on the Mets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/04/sports/baseball/justin-verlander-mets.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/04/sports/baseball/justin-verlander-mets.html

[Slateman]

I joke about it, but its pretty laughable to think the Mets have a legit shot at the division. For one thing, Corbin and Williams are probably overachieving. Also, I dont know how sustainable it is to use our bullpen like we have.

And also, remember that Gore is probably on an innings limit of around 110-140 innings. He didnt pitch a whole lot in 2021. He didnt throw at all in 2020. And last year, he only threw less than 90 innings. He's gonna need to be cutoff before September. And there really isnt a replacement that wont be a huge drop off.

Its kind of a shame because if the Nats had been willing to spend and put a competitive team up, this is a different conversation.

[Natsinpwc]

https://twitter.com/BaseballDoesnt

[Natsinpwc]

Looks like the Braves will run away with the division. But Fried and Wright are both hurt. Sounds like Wright will be out for a while.  The division was never realistic for the Nats but a wild card was if they had signed a couple of legit veterans. 

[Slateman]

Looks like the Braves will run away with the division. But Fried and Wright are both hurt. Sounds like Wright will be out for a while.  The division was never realistic for the Nats but a wild card was if they had signed a couple of legit veterans. 

Both of them are going to be out for weeks. I dont think they run away with the division with that pitching.

[nobleisthyname]

I joke about it, but its pretty laughable to think the Mets have a legit shot at the division. For one thing, Corbin and Williams are probably overachieving. Also, I dont know how sustainable it is to use our bullpen like we have.

And also, remember that Gore is probably on an innings limit of around 110-140 innings. He didnt pitch a whole lot in 2021. He didnt throw at all in 2020. And last year, he only threw less than 90 innings. He's gonna need to be cutoff before September. And there really isnt a replacement that wont be a huge drop off.

Its kind of a shame because if the Nats had been willing to spend and put a competitive team up, this is a different conversation.

Did you mean to say the Nats here? The rest of your post doesn't have anything to do with the Mets at all. If so, of course the Nats have zero shot at the division. They would basically need to play at a 95th percentile outcome along with other teams underperforming just to have a shot at the WC.

But we can catch the Marlins at least, and there's a non-bizarro world where either the Mets or Phillies continue to underperform expectations while the Nats overperform and we end up in 3rd. Makes the season more entertaining at least.

[welch]

Nats are two games behind the Mets and Phillies.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

perhaps they are way over their heads, but the Nats have gone 30 games or so at .500. probably just a bit off 3rd wild card pace. i don't expect substantial help to arrive and I don't see the Nats deviating from the rebuild.

in terms of internal help, I guess Rainey could be back, Hassell and Rutledge if things work and they are aggressive, and maybe Kieboom/Alu can help. Doo, maybe, and a few other fringy vets. Dickerson could contribute before August.

[Natsinpwc]

Just 3 games behind in the wild card.

[Slateman]

Did you mean to say the Nats here? The rest of your post doesn't have anything to do with the Mets at all. If so, of course the Nats have zero shot at the division. They would basically need to play at a 95th percentile outcome along with other teams underperforming just to have a shot at the WC.

But we can catch the Marlins at least, and there's a non-bizarro world where either the Mets or Phillies continue to underperform expectations while the Nats overperform and we end up in 3rd. Makes the season more entertaining at least.

Yea, Nats.

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we're 1.5 back of the Mets after they lost 5-0 to Cincy.

[welch]

Nats 1.5 games behind the Mets, 2 games behind Miami, 2.5 behind the Fillies.

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Verlander gives up six runs in five innings and gets booed walking off the field. Mets and Phillies both lost yesterday too