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Offline IanRubbish

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Re: Nats lock up Ruiz
« Reply #325 on: June 08, 2025, 11:59:25 am »
In addition to Ruiz's continued struggles, Riley Adams has zero walks, 19Ks, and a .116 OBP.   Tough spot at catcher.

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« Reply #326 on: June 10, 2025, 09:51:50 pm »
The benefit of being a team with no expectations, you’re afforded time to see who’s a part of the future and who isn’t. Keibert is clearly not the catcher of the future. He might legitimately be one of the worst everyday players in baseball.

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« Reply #327 on: June 10, 2025, 10:01:46 pm »
The benefit of being a team with no expectations, you’re afforded time to see who’s a part of the future and who isn’t. Keibert is clearly not the catcher of the future. He might legitimately be one of the worst everyday players in baseball.

He is awful, but they're going to play the contract as I've said many times, it's how this team operates.  Also no one in the farm to take his place, but I'd at least give Millas another shot.  Lomavita is at least a season or two away.

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« Reply #328 on: June 10, 2025, 10:02:05 pm »
He needs to take an assignment to Triple A. His approach os terrible. He has one decent month in the last 9.

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« Reply #329 on: June 10, 2025, 10:05:44 pm »
He's terrible at baseball.

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« Reply #330 on: June 11, 2025, 06:34:06 am »
Any team with real ownership and GM would have already cut their losses at this point.  Not only is Ruiz one of the worst players in baseball, he also promotes a hang-dog, soft aura.  We need some added toughness on the field, especially at catcher.  This team just rolls over.

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Re: Nats lock up Ruiz
« Reply #331 on: June 11, 2025, 01:40:52 pm »
He needs to take an assignment to Triple A. His approach os terrible. He has one decent month in the last 9.
I don't think he has any options. He'd need to be waived. It'd be interesting to see if he's claimed given the amount owed.

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« Reply #332 on: June 11, 2025, 01:46:16 pm »
I don't think he has any options. He'd need to be waived. It'd be interesting to see if he's claimed given the amount owed.
No, a player can take a voluntary assignment to the minors. It's happened before.

Honestly, put him on waivers and see what happens. You can always pull him off waivers. Or call another team's bluff

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« Reply #333 on: June 12, 2025, 08:57:29 am »
I was looking at the numbers some more this morning. Ruiz has a lower career OPS against major league pitching (.669) than Drew Millas (.694). We also know that by reputation at least Millas is the best defensively between him, Ruiz, and Adams.

Why are we so reluctant to give Millas a shot again?

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« Reply #334 on: June 12, 2025, 09:00:34 am »
I was looking at the numbers some more this morning. Ruiz has a lower career OPS against major league pitching (.669) than Drew Millas (.694). We also know that by reputation at least Millas is the best defensively between him, Ruiz, and Adams.

Why are we so reluctant to give Millas a shot again?

There are 50 million reasons...

If he were successful, Rizzo looks bad for signing Ruiz long term.  Gotta protect that fragile ego...

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« Reply #335 on: June 12, 2025, 09:11:53 am »
It's weird. Millas is denigrated as having an mlb backup ceiling by many who follow the system, but at this point, I don't see Ruiz as tapping into much more

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« Reply #336 on: June 12, 2025, 09:18:21 am »
It's weird. Millas is denigrated as having an mlb backup ceiling by many who follow the system, but at this point, I don't see Ruiz as tapping into much more

I think MLB backup is a higher ceiling than Ruiz will ever reach unfortunately. He doesn't belong on a major league roster at this point.

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« Reply #337 on: June 12, 2025, 09:35:21 am »
His only skill is he doesn't K. Catcher is a premium defensive position. Doesn't K with bad D and no power can’t hack it even as a backup.

At some point, results should matter

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« Reply #338 on: June 12, 2025, 12:45:51 pm »
His only skill is he doesn't K. Catcher is a premium defensive position. Doesn't K with bad D and no power can’t hack it even as a backup.

At some point, results should matter
This was a big year for Keibert.

It isn't happening.

I'm ready to see either Millas or Adams given a week or two as first choice catcher. I doubt they're better, but something has to change at that spot.

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« Reply #339 on: June 12, 2025, 01:58:02 pm »
Who remembers Jesus Flores? Ruiz reminds me of him. Ruiz might actually be worse.

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« Reply #340 on: June 12, 2025, 03:10:09 pm »
Who remembers Jesus Flores? Ruiz reminds me of him. Ruiz might actually be worse.

Kid me was convinced Flores was going to be a star.

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Re: Nats lock up Ruiz
« Reply #341 on: June 12, 2025, 07:17:37 pm »
Did they….. Just gamble on an extension?

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They did.

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« Reply #342 on: June 13, 2025, 06:05:15 am »
our catchers are currently a combined 0 for their last 32

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« Reply #343 on: June 13, 2025, 10:21:16 am »
They did. Addressed it a few times.
And it was the right decision. The upside was worth the risk.
It was a good contract extension. We need to applaud good FO behavior. They signed him early and meant when he went bust, it wasn't a team crippling mistake. However, if he busted out a top 10 offensive season, we'd have had a bargain.

Keibert Ruiz isn't the reason the Nationals have struggled. And as JCA said, if this team was winning in next few season, his salary isn't keeping Nats from reducing his role.
At the time, the contract seemed really smart. Your take was spot on
Theres no way Boras would have let him sign away three years of free agency. Not without some sort of opt outs. Would have been fine with 50 million in exchange for 1 year of free agency. 3 plus two options is freaking stealing.

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« Reply #344 on: June 20, 2025, 11:16:48 am »
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-nationals-are-a-catching-catastrophe/

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Nationals backstops have put up -1.7 WAR this season, a full 1.5 worse than the Angels in 29th place. These are not replacement-level killers. These are killers who live far beneath the earth’s surface, digging tunnels, crushing people with rocks, blowing them up — wait, I guess I’m just describing Dig Dug, but you get the point. Washington’s catchers rank 29th in wRC+ and 30th in baserunning and overall offense. They rank 28th in catcher ERA. According to Statcast, they rank 30th in blocking, 30th in framing, and – hey, look at that! – 13th in caught stealing above average. So it’s not all bad.

FWIW, Millas has been hitting in AAA. OPS up to .695, .891 in June (50 PAs)

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« Reply #345 on: June 20, 2025, 11:47:22 am »
And it was the right decision. The upside was worth the risk.  At the time, the contract seemed really smart. Your take was spot on

It would have been if Mini Me and Rizzo didn't operate with a play-the-contract mentality.  50 million Lernerbucks is not $50 million.  Keibert will be a drag on the team through the entire James Wood era.  Millas might be a backup at best, Keibert is a backup for sure.

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« Reply #346 on: July 04, 2025, 11:11:06 pm »
Svrluga on Keibert's many issues.  Post used to be an amplifier for team PR, when you lose Svrluga, you're in trouble.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2025/07/04/washington-nationals-keibert-ruiz/

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« Reply #347 on: July 04, 2025, 11:44:28 pm »
Kid me was convinced Flores was going to be a star.
He had his moments, like when he made that an amazing catch from Austin Kearns from the outfield and managed to keep his foot on the base.

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Re: Nats lock up Ruiz
« Reply #348 on: July 05, 2025, 06:44:02 am »
Thank you, Barry.  Easy solution, with Ruiz being out of options, expose him by trying to send him down and see if anybody bites.  I doubt any team touches him, but if they do we would have the contract (and players) off our hands. 

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Re: Nats lock up Ruiz
« Reply #349 on: July 24, 2025, 03:15:01 pm »
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Is there any chance the Nationals decide to just eat the Keibert Ruiz contract, and DFA him?
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Down the road, sure, there's a chance, but I don't really see a good reason to do that anytime soon. It's not like he's blocking a top prospect in the wings, they'd have to pay Ruiz anyway, and the deal is so cheap that he wouldn't be really overpaid if he ends up being a backup, either.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/rosterresource-chat-7-24-25/

I buy that there's nothing compelling releasing Ruiz right now mostly because there's nothing compelling about the MLB-ready Cs in the organization. It shouldn't block trying to find an upgrade (inanimate carbon rod would be an upgrade) at the trade deadline.