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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #350 on: June 08, 2025, 07:08:09 pm »
I think the low pitch count may be that they will ramp up the innings and pitches closer to his call up.

The other thing is that he was so dominant that he may have thrown more had he not been just 2 batters over the minimum thru 5. They just didn't touch him

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« Reply #351 on: June 08, 2025, 07:23:10 pm »
Agree with that too. I don't think he's cracked 80 pitches in an outing yet. Lots of time though.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #352 on: June 09, 2025, 10:13:17 am »
big thing is his stuff looked dominant. I feel the pitch count and innings will be managed this year.

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« Reply #353 on: June 09, 2025, 10:38:20 am »
Are they being overly cautious or is he just running out of stamina? That is why I thought he may end up as the "closer" a week ago.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #354 on: June 09, 2025, 10:57:29 am »
Are they being overly cautious or is he just running out of stamina? That is why I thought he may end up as the "closer" a week ago.
cautious, conservative, planned . . . there's a lot of words for it. Judging off of past statements and usage of pitchers, they value pitchers going deep into the season and making starts every 5 days more than how deep they can go in a game and racking up Scherzer-esque pitch counts. I've only seen yesterday's start this season, but he showed no signs of being tired when they pulled him. As Slate noted, he was a consistent 96/97 even into his last inning, and I think he retired the side in order. It definitely looked like a strategic move based on their season plan rather than a tactical move based on game situation.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #355 on: June 09, 2025, 12:54:30 pm »
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After throwing five scoreless innings Sunday, sitting 97 mph with his fastball while doing so, Cavalli has a 1.55 ERA and 30 strikeouts to just six walks over his past five starts.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2025/06/08/nationals-rangers-trevor-williams-nasim-nunez/

23.2 IP. 1 HR. 17-21 hitters each start (17 yesterday). three 5 IP starts, one 4.2, and one 4. This was also his first start on 4 days rest.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #356 on: June 09, 2025, 03:10:23 pm »
cautious, conservative, planned . . . there's a lot of words for it.

I agree with planned. Some of this is building up stamina, slowly over time. After all, it's been two years. But mostly it's being cautious.

If we were actually in a playoff hunt, he'd be called up. Trevor Williams can't go five innings. Cavali can do at least that now.

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« Reply #357 on: June 15, 2025, 10:00:42 am »
Struggled in the 1st yesterday before retiring 8 of the last 10 he faced.  Final line: 3⅔ IP, 2H, 3R, 3ER, 5BB, 2K

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #358 on: June 20, 2025, 07:36:29 pm »
Got through the first and then gave up a monster HR tonight Gabe Rincones.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #359 on: June 20, 2025, 07:54:41 pm »
Throwing a lot of offspeed tonight

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« Reply #360 on: June 20, 2025, 08:25:36 pm »
Throwing a lot of offspeed tonight
iirc the pd director said recently they wanted him to work on offspeed before he’s called up.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #361 on: June 20, 2025, 11:17:45 pm »
6 innings, 5 hits, 3 walks, 2 ER, and 5 Ks. 85 pitches, 58 strikes

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« Reply #362 on: June 21, 2025, 06:49:39 am »
Cavalli's return to the bigs is about the only thing to look forward to for the remainder of the season.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #363 on: June 28, 2025, 04:47:18 pm »

Has given up 6 ER on 7 hits in first two innings today.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #365 on: June 28, 2025, 07:03:00 pm »
Only 1 walk and 4 strikeouts. Let's see how he feels tomorrow.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #366 on: June 28, 2025, 07:12:58 pm »
Only 1 walk and 4 strikeouts. Let's see how he feels tomorrow.

My immediate worry. We will see.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #367 on: June 28, 2025, 08:52:54 pm »
Numbers in AAA overall are so-so.  He's averaging 67 pitches and 4 innings per start so any call up would have to be to the pen.  Also crazy that he turns 27 in August and is arb eligible next year due to all his time on the IL.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #368 on: July 02, 2025, 10:47:45 pm »
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/armed-with-a-revamped-heater-cade-cavalli-eyes-a-healthy-return-to-dc/

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We’ve kind of changed my four-seam,” Cavalli told me. “Instead of chasing some numbers vertically, we’ve gone back to where my natural hand path is, which is in a supinated position. I’m getting cut-ride now, whereas before it was more ride, with a little bit more horizontal to the arm side. Now it’s a little straighter, with a little bit of cut.”

Asked if chasing ride had added undue stress to his arm, the 22nd overall pick in the 2020 draft out of the University of Oklahoma answered in the affirmative.

“Exactly,” the erstwhile Sooner replied. “We wanted to let my arm do what it does naturally, and now that I’m not over-pronating on the fastball, trying to get the numbers I wanted, I’m not as inconsistent. I’m also recovering better.”

Cavalli told me that he’s been averaging around 13 to 14 inches of vertical break, and one to three inches of horizontal break, whereas in the past it had been “anywhere from 14 to 17 vert, with nine to 11 horizontal arm side.” He likened his revamped heater to a baby cutter.

Eric Longenhagen watched Cavalli’s start at Lehigh Valley on June 20 — a six inning, two run effort — and wasn’t overly enthused with the offering. Our lead prospect analyst observed a fastball that sat 95 mph and topped out at 99, but “played below its velocity due to a lack of movement and hittable angle.”

The movement difference has spurred an addition to Cavalli’s arsenal. With his four-seamer now having some cutting action, he has introduced a two-seamer to give him fastballs that go in different directions.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #369 on: July 03, 2025, 08:56:55 am »
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/armed-with-a-revamped-heater-cade-cavalli-eyes-a-healthy-return-to-dc/
Interesting. Sounds like he is going to have to use his change up and curve as his out pitches and pitch off the fastball. Hopefully he can generate weak contact with it rather than what Logenhagen worries about.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #370 on: July 03, 2025, 10:34:55 am »
Interesting. Sounds like he is going to have to use his change up and curve as his out pitches and pitch off the fastball. Hopefully he can generate weak contact with it rather than what Logenhagen worries about.
also sounds like he's moving away from what gave him success in the past in order to preserve his arm. I get that he has to do it, but it knocks him down from the #2 we were hoping he'd be.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #371 on: July 03, 2025, 10:39:15 am »
By the way, to show how little I know, I always thought supinating would give arm-side run, while pronating would cut.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #372 on: July 03, 2025, 03:16:09 pm »
but it knocks him down from the #2 we were hoping he'd be.

that dream died long ago, but we can at least count on the bullpen pitching like a #2

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #373 on: July 03, 2025, 05:22:24 pm »
also sounds like he's moving away from what gave him success in the past in order to preserve his arm. I get that he has to do it, but it knocks him down from the #2 we were hoping he'd be.
I think he still could be a 2/3, but it's going to take longer. Hes going to have to learn to pitch rather than just pump 98.

That being said, he says he ca stay 95-97 and is already playing with speeds on his fastball along with, apparently, a good  curve and change.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #374 on: July 03, 2025, 07:57:03 pm »
I think he still could be a 2/3, but it's going to take longer.

He turns 27 this year, and is arb eligible next year.  Can't really take longer.