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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #275 on: May 01, 2025, 10:51:40 am »
Just make him a reliever at this point to pair with Henry.

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« Reply #276 on: May 01, 2025, 10:59:54 am »
There's a fairly comprehensive public list of professional players who have had TJ.  It's a sobering read in this instance, because I wish you luck finding anyone who took this long to come back from TJ and has had any measure of success in MLB afterwards.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #277 on: May 01, 2025, 11:11:13 am »
There's a fairly comprehensive public list of professional players who have had TJ.  It's a sobering read in this instance, because I wish you luck finding anyone who took this long to come back from TJ and has had any measure of success in MLB afterwards.
part of me wonders if there's something else going on. Even in this instance, it wasn't "my elbow or flexor was hurting." It was fatigue or something.

Do you remember the thing that knocked out Rocco Baldelli? Some sort of cellular issue where he couldn't get rid of the stuff that tires you, IIRC.

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« Reply #278 on: May 01, 2025, 12:35:30 pm »
part of me wonders if there's something else going on. Even in this instance, it wasn't "my elbow or flexor was hurting." It was fatigue or something.

Do you remember the thing that knocked out Rocco Baldelli? Some sort of cellular issue where he couldn't get rid of the stuff that tires you, IIRC.

That is where my head is at too.

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« Reply #279 on: May 01, 2025, 01:05:30 pm »
More like a pilgrimage than a rehab assignment.

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« Reply #280 on: May 01, 2025, 02:59:40 pm »
Yeah it’s time to give up any hope of this guy being a MLB starter. It’s insane that we’re going on 2 plus years since his TJ surgery like it’s the early 2000s. Dead arm, fatigue, etc. that arm is donezo and he was one of the unfortunate folks unable to recover from the surgery. Him and Kieboom can start a podcast or something.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #281 on: May 01, 2025, 03:55:16 pm »
Yeah it’s time to give up any hope of this guy being a MLB starter. It’s insane that we’re going on 2 plus years since his TJ surgery like it’s the early 2000s. Dead arm, fatigue, etc. that arm is donezo and he was one of the unfortunate folks unable to recover from the surgery. Him and Kieboom can start a podcast or something.
my other thought is that maybe just going a couple of innings might be less fatiguing than a starter routine and he might be due to be converted to a bullpen piece. Could do worse than him and Henry deploying their stuff that way.

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« Reply #282 on: May 01, 2025, 05:11:02 pm »
Davey with an update: Cavalli feels way better, he will skip a start and throw a couple of bullpens and then hopefully make his next start.

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« Reply #283 on: May 01, 2025, 05:17:17 pm »
Davey with an update: Cavalli feels way better, he will skip a start and throw a couple of bullpens and then hopefully make his next start.

I'm being optimistic here but guy hasn't thrown this much in two years so maybe it's real fatigue of getting into a professional pitching workload.

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« Reply #284 on: May 01, 2025, 06:20:10 pm »
I'm being optimistic here but guy hasn't thrown this much in two years so maybe it's real fatigue of getting into a professional pitching workload.
really sounded like it was no big deal from davey’s comments.

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« Reply #285 on: May 01, 2025, 06:24:36 pm »
really sounded like it was no big deal from davey’s comments.

That's usually how Davey spins injuries.  "Fatigue" after 11 minor league innings is not good.

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« Reply #286 on: May 05, 2025, 07:57:16 am »
That's usually how Davey spins injuries.  "Fatigue" after 11 minor league innings is not good.

It's not good but the positive spin is he hasn't thrown anything close to this many professional innings in two years and this could just be him ramping up again. Slowly. Very very slowly.

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« Reply #287 on: May 05, 2025, 08:11:37 am »
It's not good but the positive spin is he hasn't thrown anything close to this many professional innings in two years and this could just be him ramping up again. Slowly. Very very slowly.
Yea, we are approaching major problem.

The way I see it, he has until July to be starting MLB games, or they need to convert him to a reliever. They waited way too long for Rutledge

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« Reply #288 on: May 08, 2025, 09:35:56 am »
Listed as the starter for Rochester tomorrow.  We'll see.

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« Reply #289 on: May 09, 2025, 09:08:56 pm »
Rained out again.

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #290 on: May 10, 2025, 04:42:05 pm »
Well he pitched. 2.2 innings, 3 hits, 3 walks, 2 Ks, and 5 runs

Hit 97 in the first. Two wild pitches and a grand slam in the 3rd

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« Reply #291 on: May 10, 2025, 05:31:09 pm »
Ready for the bullpen

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« Reply #292 on: May 10, 2025, 09:53:03 pm »
59 pitches, 28 strikes  :shock:

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Re: The Cavalli Has Arrived (delayed until 2025) - Cade Cavalli
« Reply #293 on: May 10, 2025, 10:22:42 pm »
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Righty Cade Cavalli (Tommy John surgery) pitched 2⅔ innings in a rehab start with Rochester, throwing 59 pitches — 31 balls and 28 strikes. His outing ended shortly after a grand slam by former National Dominic Smith; he allowed five runs, three hits and three walks while striking out two.

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« Reply #294 on: May 10, 2025, 10:26:53 pm »
Giving up a HR to Dominic Smith might be the worst part of the outing.

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« Reply #295 on: May 11, 2025, 05:38:41 pm »
Officially reinstated and optioned to Rochester

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« Reply #296 on: May 11, 2025, 06:41:45 pm »
well, I guess he hasn't shown enough to come straight onto the MLB roster, so burning the option was to be expected. has 2 more.

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« Reply #297 on: May 11, 2025, 07:41:48 pm »
well, I guess he hasn't shown enough to come straight onto the MLB roster, so burning the option was to be expected. has 2 more.

What does someone have to show, beyond a pulse, in order to come straight onto this roster?  Come to think of it...a pulse may actually be a barrier to entry...

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« Reply #298 on: May 11, 2025, 07:53:47 pm »
What does someone have to show, beyond a pulse, in order to come straight onto this roster?  Come to think of it...a pulse may actually be a barrier to entry...
I mean, I think it's pretty sensible to have a starting pitcher show he can go more than 3 innings

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« Reply #299 on: May 12, 2025, 09:34:03 am »
I mean, I think it's pretty sensible to have a starting pitcher show he can go more than 3 innings

My question is, at this point do we use him as a starter or as a reliever? In a perfect world, he is a starter. I think Parker might need a reset in the minors for a bit, move Lord back over to the rotation, and bring up Seth Shuman. Eventually I think Soroka goes back to the pen and Cavalli steps in. If that doesn't work, bring Parker back up after his reset and put Cavalli in the pen.