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Re: Nationals @ Cubs, Game 3
« Reply #50: August 10, 2022, 04:54:10 PM »
Victor throws to the wrong base, again.

I’m sorry, coaches and managers need to start owning up on this

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« Reply #51: August 10, 2022, 05:05:26 PM »
Is Garcia hurt?

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« Reply #52: August 10, 2022, 05:06:19 PM »
I’m sorry, coaches and managers need to start owning up on this

Victor has always done this. Does not seem to have anything to do with how he has been coached, or with Davey. He still throws to the wrong base, still tries for the hot-shot play. He has always been "swashbuckling Victor", trying to take that extra base and getting thrown out, and making stupid throws.

It looks to me like Robles was so much better than young players around him that he never really learned baseball. He never had to. He got to the majors with much more hype than Soto, and there he faced good players who nail him each time he over-plays. Then he seems to shrink as Davey sits him until he plays again, makes a spectacular catch, and then go back to "swashbuckling Victor", making the same mistakes.

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Re: Nationals @ Cubs, Game 3
« Reply #53: August 10, 2022, 05:07:34 PM »
Grrr. That ends it. Nats lose.

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« Reply #54: August 10, 2022, 05:48:55 PM »
What sucks most is that there are no other CF prospects ready to contribute at the MLB level, so we get to just watch Robles be a bonehead. I mean, unless new ownership spends on a plug in veteran type in CF in hopes to trade them at the deadline. I'm doubtful.
KC has a pretty decent .275- hitting CF veteran. Good defense, too. Wish we could get guys like that.

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Re: Nationals @ Cubs, Game 3
« Reply #55: August 10, 2022, 06:33:48 PM »
KC has a pretty decent .275- hitting CF veteran. Good defense, too. Wish we could get guys like that.

I agree! That guy hasn't stolen as many bases as normal, but he was not a dumb base-runner, and he always knew where to throw. Don't know why the organization came to depend on Robles after 2020.

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Re: Nationals @ Cubs, Game 3
« Reply #56: August 10, 2022, 08:24:38 PM »
Because his 2018 was horrid and he played himself off the active roster in 2019. They declined to go to arb 2 with him when they had a guy who had a terrific 2019 for mlb minimum. It wasn't a close call at the time. If anyone had known Robles would collapse, it would have been a tougher call.

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Re: Nationals @ Cubs, Game 3
« Reply #57: August 10, 2022, 10:08:54 PM »
Because his 2018 was horrid and he played himself off the active roster in 2019. They declined to go to arb 2 with him when they had a guy who had a terrific 2019 for mlb minimum. It wasn't a close call at the time. If anyone had known Robles would collapse, it would have been a tougher call.

Robles had a disastrous 2020. MAT went to KC for about $1.5 million that off-season. He makes about $3.5 million now. 

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« Reply #58: August 11, 2022, 08:19:03 AM »
Robles had a disastrous 2020. MAT went to KC for about $1.5 million that off-season. He makes about $3.5 million now.

Taylor hit under .200 with a .253 OBP and 27 strikeouts in 92 at bats in 2020 and was arb-eligible again after making a little over $3 million (prorated down to a little over $1 million for the shortened season) - again, that's for hitting under .200.  Robles was one year removed from 2019, in which he'd put up 4.4 WAR (mostly defense, yes) as a 22-year-old.

If the Nats had tendered Taylor a contract, he'd probably have gotten a further raise, because that's how arbitration works.  ~$3.75-4 million is a lot for a backup outfielder who can't hit his weight, especially to back up a much younger and cheaper guy who either can or can't hit and does that from the same side.  Back then, people thought the real Robles was 2019, and 2020 was a COVID fluke. 

And remember, the market showed that what the Nats would have paid MAT was way more than he was worth.  Yes, they could have non tendered him and then tried to re-sign him for less, but one could hardly blame MAT for looking elsewhere.  I'm glad it's worked out for him; he seems like a good guy.

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Re: Nationals @ Cubs, Game 3
« Reply #59: August 11, 2022, 08:21:04 AM »
This all Robles’ fault.
Naw. He contributed, but the bullpen simply couldnt get outs