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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #50: April 09, 2022, 08:14:38 PM »
Cruz turning in to Danny Espinosa

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #51: April 09, 2022, 08:16:25 PM »
Cruz has no business on this team

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #52: April 09, 2022, 08:18:20 PM »
So Bassit was afraid of Bell? Or doesn't think the next bunch of hitters are worth anything?

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #53: April 09, 2022, 08:22:41 PM »
This team is bad. Nowhere near the worst we’ve ever fielded, but still very bad.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #54: April 09, 2022, 08:24:08 PM »
Yeo. Problem is he has never really hit well. Everyone points to 2019, but its a bit of an outlier.

In 2019 he was bottom 15% or worse in xwOBA, xBA, xSLG. He was bottom 1% in average exit velocity, bottom 4% in hard hit rate, and bottom 16% in BB%. He had good speed, but wasn't a good baserunner he was however great in center field. But, then he bulked up, lost power, and lost speed going from 99th percentile in OAA to 75th now and 95 sprint speed to 81st now.

Corona didn't screw over Robles what screwed him over was teams learning to shift him so his soft contact became outs, the ball getting dejuiced sapped his power, and him bulking up removed his 1 elite tool.
this seems right.  The weak hit is the surprising thing.  I don't know if back 4-6 years ago there weren't these kind of metrics in the minors, but basically he was over-rated on performance and  a lot of wish-projecting that made him an MLB top 10 prospect.  Had the Nats self-scouted, they could have gotten the moon for him. 

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #55: April 09, 2022, 08:25:04 PM »
Cruz has no business on this team
give him a month or two like we did for Bell. they aren't releasing him. Flip flop him with Ruiz in the order 3/5 so he "protects" Bell.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #56: April 09, 2022, 08:26:29 PM »
this seems right.  The weak hit is the surprising thing.  I don't know if back 4-6 years ago there weren't these kind of metrics in the minors, but basically he was over-rated on performance and  a lot of wish-projecting that made him an MLB top 10 prospect.  Had the Nats self-scouted, they could have gotten the moon for him. 
He simply came up too soon, but he never really had power.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #57: April 09, 2022, 08:26:31 PM »
I'm liking what I've seen from Adon.  He doesn't have amazing stuff, but it's good enough and he clearly isn't scared.  Being poised enough to do decently in a major league debut in Fenway plus an opening weekend start against a good team for your first two MLB showings does matter.  Call it the anti-Gio personal mojo.

So Bassit was afraid of Bell? Or doesn't think the next bunch of hitters are worth anything?

If he thinks that, he's right.

this seems right.  The weak hit is the surprising thing.  I don't know if back 4-6 years ago there weren't these kind of metrics in the minors, but basically he was over-rated on performance and  a lot of wish-projecting that made him an MLB top 10 prospect.  Had the Nats self-scouted, they could have gotten the moon for him.

It's because Fangraphs and other people with computers who don't actually watch the games projected him to add HR power because he was hitting doubles and gap triples as a 19-year-old in high-A.  Thing is, his swing back then was more line-drive and adding the bulk to get the ball over the fence with that swing ruins him as a CF. 

He can't be a power-hitting CF with decent defense as he ages at all.  He just doesn't have the frame for it.  And since they tried that, his swing is freaked.  Instead of hitting gappers that he runs into extra bases, he lofts lazy F7s and F8s because of all that lovely extra launch angle with a guy who has warning track power.  Not everybody has the ability to hit lots of homers, and some guys will be more productive if they don't try. 

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #58: April 09, 2022, 08:34:07 PM »
that wild pitch may be a killer

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #59: April 09, 2022, 08:36:28 PM »
All of these games have had the same script.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #60: April 09, 2022, 08:38:51 PM »
Ooops

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #61: April 09, 2022, 08:39:00 PM »
HAAAAAAAA

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #62: April 09, 2022, 08:39:00 PM »
crap.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #63: April 09, 2022, 08:39:11 PM »
Saw that coming.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #64: April 09, 2022, 08:39:17 PM »
Well, that's it.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #65: April 09, 2022, 08:39:22 PM »
LMAO I freakING KNEW THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #66: April 09, 2022, 08:40:09 PM »
That uhm... yeah.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #67: April 09, 2022, 08:40:14 PM »

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #68: April 09, 2022, 08:40:39 PM »
All of these games have had the same script.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #69: April 09, 2022, 08:40:51 PM »
Anyone wanna bet that this team comes back and scores 5 runs?

Like, over the next week or so?

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #70: April 09, 2022, 08:43:00 PM »
Oh mannnnn this is gonna be a loooong season :(

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #71: April 09, 2022, 08:43:01 PM »
Anyone wanna bet that this team comes back and scores 5 runs?

Like, over the next week or so?
4 runs in 22 innings so far.

Bad batting and bad pitching makes for a bad time.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #72: April 09, 2022, 08:44:54 PM »
Gonna be a long season.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #73: April 09, 2022, 08:46:22 PM »
4 runs in 22 innings so far.

Bad batting and bad pitching makes for a bad time.

Hey, don't give bad defense short shrift.  There will be plenty of that too.

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Re: Nationals vs Mets, Game 3
« Reply #74: April 09, 2022, 08:47:09 PM »
Wins are going to be hard to come by. This team has no strengths or anything to rely upon. Lineup, rotation, and bullpen are all leaky.