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Offline tomterp

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #25: April 07, 2022, 02:41:51 PM »
71-90 also.   Season is compressed slightly which will afford fewer makeup opportunities.

Big question is, can we finish above the bottom of the NL East?    :-[

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #26: April 08, 2022, 02:24:57 PM »
71-90 also.   Season is compressed slightly which will afford fewer makeup opportunities.

Big question is, can we finish above the bottom of the NL East?    :-[

Bottom of NL East.

This team reminds me of the 1962 Nats, except that team had better pitching: Tom Cheney and Claude Osteen were better than anyone on the current team. Think about a team depending on Erick Fedde as a starter. And Voth? Gray has potential, but right now he is Jim Hannan.

Soto is the best hitter I have seen since Ted Williams, and I only saw Williams in his last four or five years, but the '62 team had Chuck Hinton in RF. Don Lock was a fine fielder in CF with 20 - 25 HR power. Lock struck out too much, and that got worse as pitchers gained more and more advantage over hitters.

That 1962 team won 60 games. They were a second year expansion team, made from scraps, made when the AL exposed only players who had been starters once, but had aged into bench players three or four years earlier. Painful similarities.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/WSA/1962.shtml

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #27: April 08, 2022, 03:26:34 PM »

This team reminds me of the 1962 Nats,

This team reminds me of the 1961 Senators,

Make up your mind!



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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #28: April 08, 2022, 05:14:00 PM »
Ah, the ole 161 game prediction. A game getting banged and not made up, huh?
Yep.

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #29: April 08, 2022, 06:32:11 PM »
70-91. One game rained out and not made up.
Copycats here.

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #30: April 08, 2022, 06:48:57 PM »
40- 121.

Offline welch

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #31: April 09, 2022, 08:35:13 AM »
Make up your mind!

1962. The 1961 team was entirely made from the expansion draft. The 1962 team had some rookies, like Hannan and Eddie Brinkman.

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #32: April 09, 2022, 09:18:36 AM »
50-111

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« Reply #33: April 09, 2022, 09:52:59 AM »
1962. The 1961 team was entirely made from the expansion draft. The 1962 team had some rookies, like Hannan and Eddie Brinkman.
Just be honest. They always sucked.  When it looked like they might be good they had to get them away from DC. At least these Nats had one good stretch of years.

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« Reply #34: April 09, 2022, 12:48:21 PM »
Just be honest. They always sucked.  When it looked like they might be good they had to get them away from DC. At least these Nats had one good stretch of years.

The '67 team was getting good. That was the last Gil Hodges team. The 1969 team was a basis for something, but Bob Shorted traded Ken McMullen, and then traded Ellie Rodriguez, Eddie Brinkman, Jim Hannan, and Joe Coleman for Denny McClain. Pure sabotage of his team, which Short then took off to Texas in hopes of selling to some oil buzzards. Idiot. Bob Shorted Washington as Crazy George Allen vowed to get the Redskins into the playoffs. And the 1971 Redskins did. And the Washington Redskins became the most valuable sports team in the US, and probably the world, just then.

Washington was always baseball-crazy, and Short played in a big, new stadium in a market that was becoming bigger and wealthier in a town that was immune to recessions. He would have cleaned up with a good team. Idiot. (Of course, Calvin Griffith owned the team that owned Washington's heart. It took a while for the city to warm to the New Senators, to Frank Howard rather than Harmon Killebrew and Bob Allison. Calvin lost big-time by going to a small market just as the Senators got really good. Imagine Griffith's 1965 team playing at DC Stadium!)

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #35: April 13, 2022, 03:09:08 PM »
71-90 also.   Season is compressed slightly which will afford fewer makeup opportunities.

Big question is, can we finish above the bottom of the NL East?    :-[

I think 70-92.  We are most likely a lock for last place. 

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #36: April 19, 2022, 09:53:51 PM »
6-4 in our last 10

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« Reply #37: April 20, 2022, 09:12:34 AM »
6-4 in our last 10

Playing the Diamondbacks and Pirates should be a recipe for wins. 

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« Reply #38: April 20, 2022, 09:47:36 AM »
Playing the Diamondbacks and Pirates should be a recipe for wins. 
Playing the Braves should be a recipe for losses.

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« Reply #39: April 20, 2022, 09:53:47 AM »
Playing the Braves should be a recipe for losses.

Depends how good you are.  Any major league team except the very worst should win some games against Pittsburgh and Arizona.  Decent teams will hold their own against the Braves.  These guys are doing better than expected, but let's not get ahead of ourselves after a DH sweep against Arizona and its team batting average of .156.

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #40: April 20, 2022, 10:06:46 AM »
we took 2 of 3 from Atlanta already.

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #41: April 20, 2022, 11:05:16 AM »
If they end up being "Team Exceeds Expectations," I'll be quite happy.  I'm getting a better feeling about some of the younger rotation pieces being able to perform well enough not to be just cannon fodder to be replaced. 

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« Reply #42: April 20, 2022, 12:22:12 PM »
If they end up being "Team Exceeds Expectations," I'll be quite happy.  I'm getting a better feeling about some of the younger rotation pieces being able to perform well enough not to be just cannon fodder to be replaced. 

so far the rotation has been...dare I say "decent", and could be stellar if we had pulled Corbin after 4 innings in each start.

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« Reply #43: April 20, 2022, 01:43:27 PM »
so far the rotation has been...dare I say "decent", and could be stellar if we had pulled Corbin after 4 innings in each start.
or used him with an opener :stir:

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #44: May 09, 2022, 03:48:57 PM »
An interesting observation about truly bad teams vs. possibly bad break / flawed bullpen teams:

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Truly bad teams don’t play close games. The last four [i.e., the worst teams by record so far this year] still behind the Red Sox in the standings on Monday morning (Cubs, Washington, Detroit, Cincinnati) have one extra-inning game between them, and a collective 26 losses by at least five runs.

The Red Sox have six extra-inning games and just four blowouts — one of which, as noted above, was a nail biter in costume.
https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2022/05/09/red-sox-bullpen-close-losses-record/

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« Reply #45: May 09, 2022, 03:57:17 PM »
An interesting observation about truly bad teams vs. possibly bad break / flawed bullpen teams:
https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2022/05/09/red-sox-bullpen-close-losses-record/

If they had won those close games, the sportswriters would be talking about how gutsy or mentally tough the team is. For some reason, that never translates to weak and lacking heart when they lose them all.

For me personally, it's a lot easier to just tune out the season with the Nats being this bad. Those close games and one run losses, late inning collapses, etc., are just MUCH harder on my nerves than the expectation of failure to an embarrassing degree.

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #46: May 09, 2022, 04:53:03 PM »
If they had won those close games, the sportswriters would be talking about how gutsy or mentally tough the team is. For some reason, that never translates to weak and lacking heart when they lose them all.

For me personally, it's a lot easier to just tune out the season with the Nats being this bad. Those close games and one run losses, late inning collapses, etc., are just MUCH harder on my nerves than the expectation of failure to an embarrassing degree.
It's not a question of winning close games for the Nats.  They are so bad they don't play a lot of close games.  They do win some blow outs, but so do the other really bad teams. 

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« Reply #47: May 09, 2022, 05:51:08 PM »
It's not a question of winning close games for the Nats.  They are so bad they don't play a lot of close games.  They do win some blow outs, but so do the other really bad teams.

Right - sorry, I was unclear. I meant the Boston sportswriter analysis of why Boston is in a different class from the other losers.

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #48: May 16, 2022, 08:18:55 PM »
At the start of Mondays action the Nats are on pace for a 54-108 record. Three worse than I predicted.

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Re: 2022 Record Prediction
« Reply #49: May 17, 2022, 07:07:57 AM »
I don't see us getting to 50 wins unless we string some wins together in September when games are meaningless for both teams.