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Re: Strasburg 2022
« Reply #175: June 14, 2022, 05:32:24 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkZuckerman/status/1536820706184515585?s=20&t=A86GtpqnDmEkyQWv6UYYmQ
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Davey says Strasburg’s stress reaction is to the 2nd/3rd ribs, it is related to his thoracic outlet surgery. He’s going to see specialist Neal ElAttrache in LA, but first course of action is rest.

Yea . . .

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« Reply #176: June 14, 2022, 05:42:00 PM »
Stress reaction in his ribs?

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« Reply #177: June 14, 2022, 05:49:08 PM »
Strasburg to the 15 day IL with a stress reaction of the ribs.
they removed a rib as part of the TSO surgery right? So, it's either a precaution, or it's a sign perhaps the surgery triggered something else.

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« Reply #178: June 14, 2022, 06:15:55 PM »
they removed a rib as part of the TSO surgery right? So, it's either a precaution, or it's a sign perhaps the surgery triggered something else.

it could be anything from a bruise to a stress fracture from what I read earlier.

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Re: Strasburg 2022
« Reply #179: June 14, 2022, 06:39:25 PM »
Stress reaction in his ribs?

Might of just pulled something while pitching

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« Reply #180: June 14, 2022, 06:47:25 PM »
Stephen Strasburg is going to be a case study why athletes should never get fully guaranteed contracts.

What an absolute waste of a contract.

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« Reply #181: June 14, 2022, 07:51:16 PM »
Stephen Strasburg is going to be a case study why athletes should never get fully guaranteed contracts.

What an absolute waste of a contract.
I am thinking of asking the Chief to set up an emoji, "But 2019."  Would simplify a lot of responses

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« Reply #182: June 14, 2022, 09:14:07 PM »
Stephen Strasburg is going to be a case study why athletes should never get fully guaranteed contracts.

What an absolute waste of a contract.
For baseball, that ship sailed decades ago. 

The issue with Stras was signing a guy who was 30, who had a long history of injuries, to a massive long-term deal. 

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« Reply #183: June 14, 2022, 09:30:03 PM »
I feel like we debated this at length during the 2019-2020 offseason

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« Reply #184: June 14, 2022, 09:40:30 PM »
It was such perfectly bad timing.   I could have lived with the contract if we won the World Series after it was signed.    If the option year was a year later, then no way he exercises it.   He may not have even exercised it after 2018 or maybe used the leverage for a bit of of a bump in term or money.   

Boras kills a lot of the joy of being a Nats fan.   I'm hoping the new owners provide a fresh start and we move away from the Boras guys.   

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« Reply #185: June 14, 2022, 09:58:45 PM »
Stress reaction in his ribs?

A.k.a. "S.S.S." - a new term, coming soon to a prominent medical journal near you!

Stephen Strasburg Syndrome. An all encompassing ailment that includes any minor discomfort thst might prevent you from showing up for work, including, but not limited to hangnails, jock itch, mosquito bites, chapped lips, butt pimples, razor burn, etc...

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« Reply #186: June 14, 2022, 10:02:17 PM »
My knee has been hurting a bit but I went out and took my 90 minute cardio tennis class tonight.  And I don’t even make $30 million a year.

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Re: Strasburg 2022
« Reply #187: June 14, 2022, 10:02:30 PM »
A.k.a. "S.S.S." - a new term, coming soon to a prominent medical journal near you!

Stephen Strasburg Syndrome. An all encompassing ailment that includes any minor discomfort thst might prevent you from showing up for work, including, but not limited to hangnails, jock itch, mosquito bites, chapped lips, butt pimples, razor burn, etc...
They cut out a rib and removed a muscle. He basically has to relearn how to pitch. So maybe its not "minor discomfort"

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« Reply #188: June 14, 2022, 11:41:07 PM »
Maybe not. Or maybe yeah. I'm going with yeah for now.


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« Reply #189: June 15, 2022, 02:26:21 AM »
Maybe not. Or maybe yeah. I'm going with yeah for now.
Someone on the MLB Network (a former general manager who was a guest -- can't remember his name) said that no pitcher has successfully come back from this type of surgery.  I don't know if that's 100% true, but...

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Re: Strasburg 2022
« Reply #190: June 15, 2022, 07:26:03 AM »
Someone on the MLB Network (a former general manager who was a guest -- can't remember his name) said that no pitcher has successfully come back from this type of surgery.  I don't know if that's 100% true, but...
certainly not Harris.

I think the Orchid stuff about Strasburg is BS. We are talking arm surgeries. No team doctor, no player does that for fun. We aren't even talking a scope and a little clean up of some loose bodies. Hand surgery, extracting a rib, fractures... that's not soft and in his head.

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« Reply #191: June 15, 2022, 07:38:05 AM »
Someone on the MLB Network (a former general manager who was a guest -- can't remember his name) said that no pitcher has successfully come back from this type of surgery.  I don't know if that's 100% true, but...

It's not no pitcher, but it's been a long time since a guy over 30 has come back successfully - see https://blogs.fangraphs.com/phil-hughes-and-the-sobering-history-of-thoracic-outlet-injuries/.  Short story is that Kenny Rogers and Josh Beckett were okay after, but everyone else over ~26ish turned into dog turds afterward.

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Re: Strasburg 2022
« Reply #192: June 15, 2022, 08:02:35 AM »
Usually with surgery there seems to be advances over time, but the TOS history is sobering

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Re: Strasburg 2022
« Reply #194: June 24, 2022, 07:38:39 PM »
https://twitter.com/MarkZuckerman/status/1540456798464815104?s=20&t=pnrGbgZfJbCCBgmWYQEXXw

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Mike Rizzo says they’re still figuring out a course of action for Stephen Strasburg’s rehab. They don’t feel rushed at the moment because Strasburg won’t be cleared to do anything until he fully rests from the stress reaction in his ribs.


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« Reply #195: June 24, 2022, 07:54:35 PM »
It was such perfectly bad timing.   I could have lived with the contract if we won the World Series after it was signed.    If the option year was a year later, then no way he exercises it.   He may not have even exercised it after 2018 or maybe used the leverage for a bit of of a bump in term or money.   

Boras kills a lot of the joy of being a Nats fan.   I'm hoping the new owners provide a fresh start and we move away from the Boras guys.   

If they fail to sign Soto then they absolutely should just avoid Boras clients at all costs. If a player fires his agent and signs with him just trade him immediately. Dealing with him simply isn’t worth it.

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« Reply #196: June 25, 2022, 06:47:17 AM »
If they fail to sign Soto then they absolutely should just avoid Boras clients at all costs. If a player fires his agent and signs with him just trade him immediately. Dealing with him simply isn’t worth it.

I was and am a big fan of stashing boras clients in the minors to time their primes for team control and of over using his pitchers to get what you can out of them

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« Reply #197: June 25, 2022, 07:05:29 AM »
Like what the Os are doing.

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« Reply #198: June 25, 2022, 07:14:24 AM »
How are Nats fans to look at Stras in the future?  As the prime reason the Nats won the WS (I know, others have just about equal credentials, like Scherzer), or the person who saddled the team with one of the worst contracts in history that will hold the team back for years on end?  I say , sadly, the latter.

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« Reply #199: June 25, 2022, 08:38:22 AM »
I was and am a big fan of stashing boras clients in the minors to time their primes for team control and of over using his pitchers to get what you can out of them
Well good luck with that. Unless you always have a top 5 farm system or are the Rays. When you grow stars and then let them walk with no replacements you drive away the fans. In droves.