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2022 Rule 5
« Topic Start: November 10, 2021, 11:34:05 AM »
A very detailed look at who's available for this December's Rule 5 draft:

http://www.nationalsarmrace.com/?p=17308

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #1: November 19, 2021, 10:13:31 AM »
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Tim Cate, LHP (No. 13)
Donovan Casey, OF (No. 18)
Evan Lee, LHP (No. 21)
Jordy Barley, SS (No. 25)
Richard Guasch, RHP (No. 26)
Israel Pineda, C (No. 27)
Top 30 prospects across MLB that must be added to 40 man rosters or become rule 5 eligible

Some squeezes, some interesting names on other rosters.  Blue Jays have 9 guys eligible, including infielders who rank #6, #11, and #17 in their organization.  Several teams with 6+. 

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« Reply #2: November 19, 2021, 10:52:19 AM »
Top 30 prospects across MLB that must be added to 40 man rosters or become rule 5 eligible

Some squeezes, some interesting names on other rosters.  Blue Jays have 9 guys eligible, including infielders who rank #6, #11, and #17 in their organization.  Several teams with 6+.

Other than Cate, none of those guys are worth protecting, and only Cate because he's a lefty that someone might try to hide for a year.

The Nats should be active on the selections side, even if that's only in the minor league phase.

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« Reply #3: November 19, 2021, 10:58:39 AM »
Other than Cate, none of those guys are worth protecting, and only Cate because he's a lefty that someone might try to hide for a year.

The Nats should be active on the selections side, even if that's only in the minor league phase.

Casey probably gets protected

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #4: November 19, 2021, 11:20:01 AM »
When is the rule 5?

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #5: November 19, 2021, 11:48:21 AM »
When is the rule 5?
dec 8 per the google machine

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #6: November 19, 2021, 11:49:49 AM »
dec 8 per the google machine

So it’ll be in mid feb given the coming lockout

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #7: November 19, 2021, 12:09:02 PM »
Nats have added Evan Lee and Donavan Casey to the 40-man, protecting them from the Rule-5 draft.

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #8: November 19, 2021, 12:15:16 PM »
Nats have added Evan Lee and Donavan Casey to the 40-man, protecting them from the Rule-5 draft.
not Cate?

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #9: November 19, 2021, 12:20:16 PM »
not Cate?

At least not yet.

But cate also sucks

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #10: November 19, 2021, 12:25:58 PM »
One open spot if my count is correct.

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #11: November 19, 2021, 12:43:34 PM »
Casey probably gets protected

I think he already has been.  Doesn't make it worth it, of course, but he's close enough to justify.  I wouldn't worry about losing him in the major league phase, but minor league...yeah, maybe.

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #12: November 19, 2021, 12:47:12 PM »
At #5, there probably will be someone worth taking a shot at. Usually it would be a guy who you can carry in the bullpen. Infield is a longer shot

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #13: November 19, 2021, 01:08:54 PM »
I’m hoping cardinals shortstop devin Perez is available. 

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #14: November 19, 2021, 02:03:08 PM »
The loss of the 2020 season means a lot of teams will have jams that may be exploitable even in the minor league portion.   For example, I'd encourage them to take a look at:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/colton-hock/sa915685/stats#standard

Pure reliever, very good in 1-inning appearances. AAA ERA was ugly just because of one bad appearance (5 ER) in a multi-inning appearance.  Big dude - he's 6'4", although he looked to have lost weight last season - and was a relatively high draft pick (4th round from Stanford).

Two major-league quality pitches (95-96 2-seamer and hammer curve), awful changeup that gets hit a mile even in AA.  Avoid throwing that and he's probably better than several guys the Nationals gave major league innings last year. 

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #15: November 26, 2021, 12:08:22 PM »
https://www.mlb.com/news/rule-5-draft-eligible-prospects-for-each-team-2021?partnerId=zh-20211126-508758-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211126-508758-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=njrD8PgjQBEASJ2DZE67WoLO1FPg1pzwGadxjtK0DUn6DIspWH5s16lpZLJlLFEq&bt_ts=1637935226901

Identifies Tim Cate as the top target for other teams among the Nats available guys.  Since he uses a left arm and has a nice curveball, maybe he's the kind of guy a team could spot in for a year from the bullpen, then hope to develop him?

Since we have the 5th pick in the Rule 5 draft, these seem to be 5 guys on the list from other teams who jump off the page for me.  I considered a few pitchers with better stuff, but stuck more with high floor guys. As for position guys, I looked for guys who could be back up infielders who could also play the OF to give some position flexibility.

Blue Jays: Samad Taylor, 2B/OF (No. 17) hit well in AA and can run, but has a K problem.  Sounds a bit like Ian Desmond.
Tigers: Garrett Hill, RHP (unranked on Tigers Top 30) Good numbers in High A, AA, and AFL this year, combined 120 K in < 90 innings. 3 pitches but not amazing.  Starter in minors, but maybe a long guy / spot starter next year if drafted.  A Fedde/Voth with options after 2022.
Rockies: Tommy Doyle, RHP (unranked on Rockies Top 30) Former UVA closer with some success in the minors and a couple of pitches coming off an injury. Even made it to the majors.  If the injury checks out, then could be a piece in the pen.
Brewers: Korry Howell, OF/SS/3B (No. 15) If Taylor is Desmond, this guy sounds like Danny Espinosa with Trea Turner speed.  70 on the FG scouting report, with good raw power that showed up in A+ this year, and the potential to be an above average fielder.  K rate is just too high, but if we don't go for a Harrison type as a backup infielder, this guy comfortably can fill in a year as a multi-position back up who can pinch run, crush the occasional one as a PH, and then spend 2023 back in the minors refining his hitting. Downside would be whether a year in the majors would set him further back as a hitter.
A’s: Brady Feigl, RHP (No. 24) - Made it as high as AAA last year, but pitched most of the year in AA.  Again, no blow you away fastball, but 3 pitches that project as MLB average and near that now, and good command [per FG, per MLB.com he has 4]. As MLB puts it, "He’s proven durable, so a team needing starting pitching depth or a swingman could give Feigl a shot, kind of like the Royals did with Brad Keller back in 2017." Again, sounds like a Fedde / Voth replacement.

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #16: November 26, 2021, 12:21:59 PM »
Definitely seems like there’s some guys worth taking.  We better select someone

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Re: 2022 Rule 5
« Reply #17: November 26, 2021, 10:08:08 PM »
https://www.mlb.com/news/rule-5-draft-eligible-prospects-for-each-team-2021?partnerId=zh-20211126-508758-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211126-508758-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=njrD8PgjQBEASJ2DZE67WoLO1FPg1pzwGadxjtK0DUn6DIspWH5s16lpZLJlLFEq&bt_ts=1637935226901

Identifies Tim Cate as the top target for other teams among the Nats available guys.  Since he uses a left arm and has a nice curveball, maybe he's the kind of guy a team could spot in for a year from the bullpen, then hope to develop him?

The thing with Cate that makes him so likely to get picked is that he's on the AA roster, meaning he's also eligible in the minor league phase.  No need to keep him on the major league roster if selected then.