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« Reply #175: March 16, 2022, 09:38:50 AM »
so, laureano is next, I guess.

FWIW, Bosox are supposed to be in on Freeman.  That would make Dalbec available, but more significantly, that looks like it blocks Casas (or locks in a post-JD time split at 1st and DH).
Dodgers.  SAWX. Jays (he’s a Canadian). Rays. Last seems unlikely.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/insider/story/_/id/33509186/five-free-agent-fits-freddie-freeman-atlanta-braves-move-on?platform=amp

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« Reply #176: March 16, 2022, 09:40:56 AM »
so, laureano is next, I guess.

Manaea.  Interesting to see what they get for a reasonably cheap 30-year-old mid-rotation guy who will be FA next winter.   But there's no way the A's want to pay him $10 million after this fire sale. 

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« Reply #177: March 16, 2022, 09:52:20 AM »
Schwarber to the Phillies

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« Reply #178: March 16, 2022, 09:52:37 AM »
Manaea.  Interesting to see what they get for a reasonably cheap 30-year-old mid-rotation guy who will be FA next winter.   But there's no way the A's want to pay him $10 million after this fire sale. 
Manae and Montas would be my bets

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« Reply #179: March 16, 2022, 10:15:56 AM »
The Nats really screwed up with KLong

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« Reply #180: March 16, 2022, 10:21:51 AM »
Manae and Montas would be my bets

Yeah, Montas too.  He's just paid less and has one additional year of control so not as urgent for them to dump.  I can't imagine them keeping either, though. 

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« Reply #181: March 16, 2022, 10:40:46 AM »
Matt Chapman to the Blue Jays

he would have been a nice fit for us

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« Reply #182: March 16, 2022, 10:44:28 AM »
Seiya Suzuki to the Cubs.  5 years, $85 million. With posting fee payment to his old team, total cost is a shade under $100 million
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/03/cubs-to-sign-seiya-suzuki.html

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« Reply #183: March 16, 2022, 10:46:11 AM »
Matt Chapman to the Blue Jays
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« Reply #184: March 16, 2022, 10:47:02 AM »
#Phillies deal with Kyle Schwarber, pending physical, is a 4-year agreement with an AAV just under $20 million per year, sources tell The Athletic.

I wouldn't have minded him back, but 4 years at 20 seems too much of a gamble.

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« Reply #185: March 16, 2022, 10:48:46 AM »
#Phillies deal with Kyle Schwarber, pending physical, is a 4-year agreement with an AAV just under $20 million per year, sources tell The Athletic.

I wouldn't have minded him back, but 4 years at 20 seems too much of a gamble.

maybe not so much now that the NL has the DH.

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« Reply #186: March 16, 2022, 10:49:49 AM »
#Phillies deal with Kyle Schwarber, pending physical, is a 4-year agreement with an AAV just under $20 million per year, sources tell The Athletic.

I wouldn't have minded him back, but 4 years at 20 seems too much of a gamble.
That was the deal Dan Szymborski projected for him.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/lets-sign-some-hitters/

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« Reply #187: March 16, 2022, 10:50:49 AM »
9:04am: The deal has been finalized, tweets Davidi. Right-hander Gunnar Hoglund, infielder Kevin Smith, left-hander Zach Logue and left-hander Kirby Snead are all headed to Oakland.

Hoglund is their #4 prospect (19th overall pick in 2021), Smith is #9, Logue is 27. Not a huge return it seems.

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« Reply #188: March 16, 2022, 11:07:13 AM »
Hoglund is their #4 prospect (19th overall pick in 2021), Smith is #9, Logue is 27. Not a huge return it seems.
for comparison, that a 45 FV pitcher on Fangraphs with an MLB ETA of 2024, a 40 middle infielder who has reached MLB, a 40 SP who is nearly 26 and in AAA, and a 35+ MLB single inning reliever (27 year old).  #3, #16, #10, and #26 again per FG. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/toronto-blue-jays-top-37-prospects-2022/

For comparison, for the Nats, that'd roughly be perhaps Lara, maybe Luis Garcia or possibly Cluff (who is not MLB ready), a high floor, low ceiling SP on the roster or AAA, and maybe Seth Romero?

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« Reply #189: March 16, 2022, 11:14:02 AM »
for comparison, that a 45 FV pitcher on Fangraphs with an MLB ETA of 2024, a 40 middle infielder who has reached MLB, a 40 SP who is nearly 26 and in AAA, and a 35+ MLB single inning reliever (27 year old).  #3, #16, #10, and #26 again per FG. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/toronto-blue-jays-top-37-prospects-2022/

For comparison, for the Nats, that'd roughly be perhaps Lara, maybe Luis Garcia or possibly Cluff (who is not MLB ready), a high floor, low ceiling SP on the roster or AAA, and maybe Seth Romero?
FG rates pitchers (particularly young ones) really low.

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« Reply #190: March 16, 2022, 01:24:51 PM »
That was the deal Dan Szymborski projected for him.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/lets-sign-some-hitters/

I think it's a bargain or just in line with his value. And reuniting him with KLong in that tiny park. Yikes.

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« Reply #191: March 16, 2022, 02:07:56 PM »
FG rates pitchers (particularly young ones) really low.
then that means Hoaglund could be really special b/c he's 22. 

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« Reply #192: March 16, 2022, 03:04:22 PM »
then that means Hoaglund could be really special b/c he's 22. 
He just got drafted, so maybe

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« Reply #193: March 16, 2022, 04:00:59 PM »
Greinke to the Royals.  1 year/$13 million plus up to $2 million in incentives.

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« Reply #194: March 16, 2022, 04:34:58 PM »
Greinke to the Royals.  1 year/$13 million plus up to $2 million in incentives.
that's a lot.  They could keep him to retire as a Royal, or wheel him if he's ok with it and is pitching well.

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« Reply #195: March 16, 2022, 05:33:32 PM »
Freeman to the Dodgers. 7 years, 220 million

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« Reply #196: March 16, 2022, 06:35:32 PM »
Bryant to Rockies 7/$182

Bryant must be a Moron

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« Reply #197: March 16, 2022, 07:17:18 PM »
Bryant to Rockies 7/$182

Bryant must be a Moron
Why?  He apparently lives there and loves it.  He will hit great in that park.

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« Reply #198: March 16, 2022, 07:24:00 PM »
then that means Hoaglund could be really special b/c he's 22.

He was a first round pick out of high school, then again out of college (and was even in the top 2 or 3 conversation until he needed TJ). 

It still seems like Oakland should have gotten more for Chapman, but I guess a lot of teams thought the offensive trend line was ugly.  It is, but he had a hip injury and those take a long time to get right.

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« Reply #199: March 16, 2022, 07:41:09 PM »
Why?  He apparently lives there and loves it.  He will hit great in that park.

The Rockies are literally the worst run organization in baseball.  By a mile.