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So where does everybody think Max will end up?

Nats
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Dodgers
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2 (8.7%)
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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #50: November 29, 2021, 09:38:21 AM »
Yeah. Rendon and Soto and Turner and Strasburg had nothing to do with the title.  And we lost several years in the playoffs with Max before we won. Singing a 37 year old pitcher to a four year deal is almost as confounding as signing a 33 year old CF to a four year deal. It’s NY and the owner has to make some moves. Meanwhile the Braves still have a better lineup and several good young pitchers.

Marlins are making moves too

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #51: November 29, 2021, 09:59:07 AM »
When has signing aging free agents ever won a team anything?  You win in baseball from good drafting and having a good player development system.  I still can’t see them beating out the Braves.  Maybe a wild card. 
Degrom > Strasburg.  McNeil took a step back, but he's still a career .299 / .364 / .459 hitter. Alonso is a stud.  Nimmo is a nice piece too.  That's all internal.  I like the Canha / Marte / Escobar signings.   If Lindor has any sort of bounceback, that's a heck of a balanced, quality line up.

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« Reply #52: November 29, 2021, 11:56:04 AM »
Degrom > Strasburg.  McNeil took a step back, but he's still a career .299 / .364 / .459 hitter. Alonso is a stud.  Nimmo is a nice piece too.  That's all internal.  I like the Canha / Marte / Escobar signings.   If Lindor has any sort of bounceback, that's a heck of a balanced, quality line up.

That's kinder to the Mets that I would be. DeGrom has a mysterious injury that lingered. McNeil had a disappointing season that has the Mets listening to trade offers, although that indicates other teams are, at least, interested. Alonso hits homers, but gets criticized for being somewhat indifferent to wins or losses. Nimmo is OK.

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #53: November 29, 2021, 12:11:10 PM »
He still gets a standing ovation in his first start back at Nats Park, right?


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« Reply #54: November 29, 2021, 12:12:56 PM »
He still gets a standing ovation in his first start back at Nats Park, right?


And then we boo

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #55: November 29, 2021, 12:15:14 PM »
I think I'll need to stay away from that one.  Cheering a Met--any Met--would give me PTSD

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #56: November 29, 2021, 12:22:51 PM »
Crap.  Mets for 3 years.  I love the guy but is it wrong to root for his to performance to fall off a cliff?

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« Reply #57: November 29, 2021, 12:35:30 PM »
Crap.  Mets for 3 years.  I love the guy but is it wrong to root for his to performance to fall off a cliff?
I was rooting for him for a bit in LA.   He'll be dead to me for his Met years, and I hope they'll be forgettable.

The odds of this being a smart contract for all 3 of the years have to be less than 10%.   I'd say it is 50/50 whether they even get one 43 million season out of him at this age.   A deal like this could look real dumb if a year is lost to a lock out.

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #58: November 29, 2021, 12:40:08 PM »
3/$130 million per Heyman though still not final.

That's insane.

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #59: November 29, 2021, 12:40:40 PM »
Yuck.

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #60: November 29, 2021, 12:55:57 PM »
Crap.  Mets for 3 years.  I love the guy but is it wrong to root for his to performance to fall off a cliff?
No. It’s a sound reaction.

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #61: November 29, 2021, 12:56:11 PM »
Opt out after this year. 

Guess he’ll be coming back after a ramp up year for us

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« Reply #63: November 29, 2021, 01:11:25 PM »
Opt out after this year. 

Guess he’ll be coming back after a ramp up year for us
Opt out is after 2023.

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« Reply #64: November 29, 2021, 01:13:08 PM »
This is why you root for the team, not the player.  I can't blame Max because there was no way he could turn down that offer, but it goes to show that players come and go - they are paid mercenaries and money will always talk.  I'm sorry but it will be hard to give him a standing O while in a Mets uniform.....but I begrudgingly think he deserves it.

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #65: November 29, 2021, 01:19:08 PM »
This is why you root for the team, not the player.  I can't blame Max because there was no way he could turn down that offer, but it goes to show that players come and go - they are paid mercenaries and money will always talk.  I'm sorry but it will be hard to give him a standing O while in a Mets uniform.....but I begrudgingly think he deserves it.
On the other hand, taking the money to go to a hated rival kind of says he cares more about the money than his Nats legacy and fans.   The boos are the price to pay for taking the money.

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« Reply #66: November 29, 2021, 01:20:41 PM »
This is why you root for the team, not the player.  I can't blame Max because there was no way he could turn down that offer, but it goes to show that players come and go - they are paid mercenaries and money will always talk.  I'm sorry but it will be hard to give him a standing O while in a Mets uniform.....but I begrudgingly think he deserves it.
Agree n all counts.  I don't blame him for taking that deal, and it will be tough to clap for him in a Mets uniform.  Agree he deserves it, and I will, but will have no problem booing him as soon as he tips his cap.
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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #67: November 29, 2021, 01:22:25 PM »
Gross 🤮

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« Reply #68: November 29, 2021, 01:24:31 PM »
On the other hand, taking the money to go to a hated rival kind of says he cares more about the money than his Nats legacy and fans.   The boos are the price to pay for taking the money.

max will justify it by saying that he's raising salaries for everyone, which is arguably true.

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« Reply #69: November 29, 2021, 01:28:23 PM »
max will justify it by saying that he's raising salaries for everyone, which is arguably true.
As he is about to go into labor discussions as one of the leading voices for the players.  This would seem to put him in a bad negotiating position.

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« Reply #70: November 29, 2021, 01:33:03 PM »
By facing Max a few times next year it helps our tank. 

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #71: November 29, 2021, 01:33:53 PM »
As he is about to go into labor discussions as one of the leading voices for the players.  This would seem to put him in a bad negotiating position.

why? He's driving up player salaries?

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« Reply #72: November 29, 2021, 01:39:21 PM »
why? He's driving up player salaries?
He wants more money for the younger players.  The owners see that as a zero sum game so it means that comes from the higher paid guys. 

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #73: November 29, 2021, 01:39:26 PM »
why? He's driving up player salaries?
He's also saying the union's biggest priority is increasing younger players salaries.   

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Re: Scherzer's next destination
« Reply #74: November 29, 2021, 01:53:15 PM »
Opt out is after 2023.

I see that now.  It was initially reported as after 2022.