2021-2022 Offseason Discussion/Signings/Trades/Rumors

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Nats need to put a claim in on Clint Frazier. If he's healthy and recovered from vertigo you've got a cost controlled slugger from the right side that could fill LF for years to come. If he's not healthy, you cut him loose. A no lose proportion.

does every al team get a shot at him before the nl now or did they change the rule and use a combined list for waivers?

[JCA-CrystalCity]

does every al team get a shot at him before the nl now or did they change the rule and use a combined list for waivers?

the Google and wiki say AL gets priority. But yes, must be claimed. Even offer an guy off the 40 man to the nyy in trade rather than sitting back.

[zimm_da_kid]

does every al team get a shot at him before the nl now or did they change the rule and use a combined list for waivers?

He was DFAed so they have 48 hours to trade him before putting him on waivers.  I bet he gets traded to someone for cash considerations

[Slateman]

the Google and wiki say AL gets priority. But yes, must be claimed. Even offer an guy off the 40 man to the nyy in trade rather than sitting back.

Trade for him and Wade

[hotshot]

Only teams that could trade for Soto would be Mariners, Padres, dodgers, or Yankees

Mariners: Julio Rodriguez/Kirby/Hancock/ty France gets it STARTED
Padres: Cronenworth/Abrams/Gore/Campusano gets it STARTED
Dodgers:  Cartaya/pepiot/Busch/Miller/bellinger as a bounce back
Yankees: Volpe/Dominguez/Gil/Pereira gets it STARTED

Even discounting what we had to give up in trades, and our success in signing our top of the draft picks, our scouting prowess/results seems very unexceptional, to say the least. Surprising, since that was/is supposedly Rizzo's forte.

[Slateman]

Trade for him and Wade

Frazier and Wade for Barrera or Pineda

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Frazier and Wade for Barrera or Pineda

thinking the nyy released wade and Frazier to make room on the 40 man, so Barrera would be of no interest. As for Pineda, he's rule 5 eligible and would need to be rostered.

[zimm_da_kid]

Brian Goodwin would be a good get to bat against rightys and give Thomas and Robles time off against said rightys.  Even with his bad year last year, he had an ops of 800 vs them

[UMDNats]

Brian Goodwin would be a good get to bat against rightys and give Thomas and Robles time off against said rightys.  Even with his bad year last year, he had an ops of 800 vs them

he has beef with our org

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Brian Goodwin would be a good get to bat against rightys and give Thomas and Robles time off against said rightys.  Even with his bad year last year, he had an ops of 800 vs them

I'll guess Yadi serves that function, or perhaps Stevenson. 

[zimm_da_kid]

I get a lot of you think we should be purely rebuilding with one year deals this year, but how did we or anyone else not beat the giants resigning desclafani for 3 years at $12 million a year?  That seems like a bargain

[Slateman]

I get a lot of you think we should be purely rebuilding with one year deals this year, but how did we or anyone else not beat the giants resigning desclafani for 3 years at $12 million a year?  That seems like a bargain

Because they're in win now mode. And he's a 32 year old, soft tossing righty with a career FIP over 4. And he probably gave them a bit of discount

Now, Alex Wood on a two year deal, thats a different story

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I get a lot of you think we should be purely rebuilding with one year deals this year, but how did we or anyone else not beat the giants resigning desclafani for 3 years at $12 million a year?  That seems like a bargain

that's a lot higher than mlbtr/fg estimates for what he'd sign for

[Slateman]

Honestly, I think the Giants are trying to lay the ground work for Posey to unretire and be a part time catcher and most time DH

[imref]

Honestly, I think the Giants are trying to lay the ground work for Posey to unretire and be a part time catcher and most time DH

they are reportedly close to resigning Wood too.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Sf is basically in Nats 2020 mode bringing back the old crew that had a great year. Except no World Series

[sixthree175]

Honestly, I think the Giants are trying to lay the ground work for Posey to unretire and be a part time catcher and most time DH

If Posey was on the fence about retiring he would've waited a few months.  He's toast...
...just speculation on my part -- What were the odds that four old timers (Posey, Belt, Crawford, Longoria) would suddenly all come alive in one season a la Night of the Living Dead?  PEDs.   Look for the other three to turn into pumpkins in 2022.

[Slateman]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-release-clint-frazier-rougned-odor-trade-tyler-wade-to-angels-in-roster-shakeup/

Frazier released.

Im assuming at this point his neurological condition is pretty serious. Still, would take a shot. We could get him examined at Hopkins and let Thomas and Robles play LF and CF to start the season, with Frazier rehabing

[zimm_da_kid]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-release-clint-frazier-rougned-odor-trade-tyler-wade-to-angels-in-roster-shakeup/

Frazier released.

Im assuming at this point his neurological condition is pretty
 serious. Still, would take a shot. We could get him examined at Hopkins and let Thomas and Robles play LF and CF to start the season, with Frazier rehabing

Early report.  He’s still on release waivers so teams can claim him.  Someone really wanted to break it I guess

[Slateman]

With Graveman signing with the White Sox, I would think they would be pretty desperate to unload Kimbrel and would be willing to include a prospect to do it.

[Natsinpwc]

With Graveman signing with the White Sox, I would think they would be pretty desperate to unload Kimbrel and would be willing to include a prospect to do it.

When is his contract up?  Another guy to flip at the deadline. 

[zimm_da_kid]

With Graveman signing with the White Sox, I would think they would be pretty desperate to unload Kimbrel and would be willing to include a prospect to do it.

They exercised his club option for next year.  They wouldn’t exercise that just to give up a prospect to get rid of him.  Someone will give something up for him.  Probably a dumb team like the Mets

[Slateman]

When is his contract up?  Another guy to flip at the deadline. 

End of next season

[Natsinpwc]

End of next season

Perfect. Make the trade and he will be well rested at the deadline pitching for the Nats.

[Count Walewski]

Rumor in Chicago is that the Phillies may be willing to take on Kimbrel.