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« Reply #200: October 07, 2021, 12:19:50 AM »
How is it a “key hit” if there was no one on base and he ended up stranded at 2nd?

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« Reply #201: October 07, 2021, 12:21:08 AM »
Reyes about to Storen his career right here

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« Reply #202: October 07, 2021, 12:25:39 AM »
WC games don't have that Game 5 weight though
Reyes about to Storen his career right here

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« Reply #203: October 07, 2021, 12:26:04 AM »
Boom!

Great game.  I was entertained tonight.

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« Reply #204: October 07, 2021, 12:26:05 AM »
Welp

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« Reply #205: October 07, 2021, 12:26:46 AM »
Lol buh bye Cards

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« Reply #206: October 07, 2021, 12:27:12 AM »
Lol buh bye Cards

but I hate the Dodgers. Hope SF sweeps them.

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« Reply #207: October 07, 2021, 12:27:26 AM »
Reyes about to Storen his career right here
Called it.

Cards need to trade him in the offseason

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« Reply #208: October 07, 2021, 12:27:57 AM »
Well, we get to watch some recent Nats alums for a bit longer  :thumbs:

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« Reply #209: October 07, 2021, 12:28:55 AM »
but I hate the Dodgers. Hope SF sweeps them.
Rooting for Max and Trea.

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« Reply #210: October 07, 2021, 12:31:46 AM »
but I hate the Dodgers. Hope SF sweeps them.

Should be a good series.  A shame it's only 5 games between those two teams.

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« Reply #211: October 07, 2021, 12:32:00 AM »
Wasn’t the Bobby Thomson HR  vs the Dodgers? How is this the first Dodgers Giants postseason series?

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« Reply #212: October 07, 2021, 12:44:11 AM »
Wasn’t the Bobby Thomson HR  vs the Dodgers? How is this the first Dodgers Giants postseason series?
Right. Three game playoff in 1951.

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« Reply #213: October 07, 2021, 12:45:13 AM »
Yes, I can't believe they aren't beating that drum.  I knew very little about that until I read DeLillo's "Underworld", wow
Wasn’t the Bobby Thomson HR  vs the Dodgers? How is this the first Dodgers Giants postseason series?

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« Reply #214: October 07, 2021, 09:41:15 AM »
Wasn’t the Bobby Thomson HR  vs the Dodgers? How is this the first Dodgers Giants postseason series?
First divisional series meeting from what I gather-a stupid distinction but that's why it's a "first".

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« Reply #215: October 07, 2021, 10:10:01 AM »
Looks like Roberts made the right decision lifting Max.  He was not sharp and had thrown lots of pitches.  Apparently he did not pitch well his previous two starts.  They need to get him straightened out pronto.  Gutsy move by Roberts.  He has gotten criticized and rightly so over the years for some questionable decisions; hope he gets credit on this one. 


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« Reply #216: October 07, 2021, 10:17:39 AM »
Wasn’t the Bobby Thomson HR  vs the Dodgers? How is this the first Dodgers Giants postseason series?
I think the tie breaking series counts as regular season games.  They did not have playoffs for league pennants back then.  I suppose it is technical, but it is right to call it the first playoff series. 

Painful as it is, the Red Sox are listed in B-R as playing 163 regular season games in 1978 (99-64) and 155 in 1948 (96-59). Doyers are listed as playing 157 games in 1951, as are the Giants, so that confirms it.

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« Reply #217: October 07, 2021, 10:28:03 AM »
Looks like Roberts made the right decision lifting Max.  He was not sharp and had thrown lots of pitches.  Apparently he did not pitch well his previous two starts.  They need to get him straightened out pronto.  Gutsy move by Roberts.  He has gotten criticized and rightly so over the years for some questionable decisions; hope he gets credit on this one. 


It's becoming a standard decision now to go to the bullpen early.   5.1 is the longest a starter went in the 2 WC games.   And 3 of the starters were pulled with only one run given up.

I wonder if we'll see a starting pitcher in the 7th inning this post season.   I'd bet on not seeing it happen more than twice.

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« Reply #218: October 07, 2021, 10:32:37 AM »
It's becoming a standard decision now to go to the bullpen early.   5.1 is the longest a starter went in the 2 WC games.   And 3 of the starters were pulled with only one run given up.

I wonder if we'll see a starting pitcher in the 7th inning this post season.   I'd bet on not seeing it happen more than twice.
You are probably right about the 7 innings. Of course 4.1 is quite a bit less than 7.  Once they get to the longer series it’s hard to get by if your starters are only going 4/5 innings. Need 6/7.

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« Reply #219: October 07, 2021, 10:33:52 AM »
It's becoming a standard decision now to go to the bullpen early.   5.1 is the longest a starter went in the 2 WC games.   And 3 of the starters were pulled with only one run given up.

I wonder if we'll see a starting pitcher in the 7th inning this post season.   I'd bet on not seeing it happen more than twice.
in 2013, Farrell would be happy if he got 4 from Peavy, Buchholz, and might have only a slightly longer leash on Lester and Lackey.  In my mind, that was about the beginning of the super short leashes on starters and the bullpening of playoffs.

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« Reply #220: October 07, 2021, 11:34:03 AM »
in 2013, Farrell would be happy if he got 4 from Peavy, Buchholz, and might have only a slightly longer leash on Lester and Lackey.  In my mind, that was about the beginning of the super short leashes on starters and the bullpening of playoffs.
Wonder what the stats show since then? 

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« Reply #221: October 07, 2021, 11:37:45 AM »
It's becoming a standard decision now to go to the bullpen early.   5.1 is the longest a starter went in the 2 WC games.   And 3 of the starters were pulled with only one run given up.

I wonder if we'll see a starting pitcher in the 7th inning this post season.   I'd bet on not seeing it happen more than twice.

We bucked this emerging trend in 2019 and won it all. Astros pulled Greinke and lost the series because of it.

I hate this trend. I hope this blows up in the Dodgers face next time.

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« Reply #222: October 07, 2021, 11:44:25 AM »
Rooting for Max and Trea.

Rooting for Max and Trea to stay healthy but against the creating lasting attachments and positive memories for the Dodgers fan base

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« Reply #223: October 07, 2021, 12:16:44 PM »
Red Sox get Martinez back, but drop former closer Matt Barnes.

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« Reply #224: October 07, 2021, 12:26:48 PM »
We bucked this emerging trend in 2019 and won it all. Astros pulled Greinke and lost the series because of it.

I hate this trend. I hope this blows up in the Dodgers face next time.

Maybe on the Greinke thing, maybe not; that’s why they play out the 27 outs (Manfred-ball notwithstanding). Also, Greinke had some rough outings early in the playoffs, and only pitched 4 2/3 innings in Game Three before they went to the bullpen. I recall him getting his share of calls – – just look at the Eaton pitch sequence to start the seventh in Game 7 for some of that.

All of that might’ve also factored into the decision not to solely go with pitch count. Having a hook ready for such a starter who has reached the seventh in Game 7 — and had just given up a home run and a walk — doesn’t seem to be primarily emblematic of the quick hook trend in and of itself.

And of course, there was also the pressure of the moment, especially as the Nats when they had a DH had gotten production against most of the Houston pitchers, most recently with late-inning explosions of runs in Game Two and Game Six. Think it was Rosenthal who said Hinch reportedly indicated not wanting to use Harris in Game 7 because of previous workload – – including the night before - - but went with him anyways.

There was also the report of the priority of giving Cole the ability to come into a “clean inning” since he hadn’t come out of the bullpen before if I recall correctly. Rendon getting a homer and the Soto walk changed the plan. Even before what Cole did in the 2020 and 2021 playoffs, I seem to recall reasoning as I had in Game One that the Nationals could conceivably to get to somebody who was giving up more home runs than even Scherzer was. Plus, he had already started twice in the series, would be in relief for the first time, and was on short rest, all of which carried levels of uncertainties.