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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #225: September 11, 2021, 09:04:14 PM »

Pass. Dude is a right handed Corbin. Literally has it until he doesn't. Completely unreliable.
for $5 million, ok. For multiple years and big money. :smh:

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #226: September 11, 2021, 10:16:52 PM »
Gonna throw it out there: Nats need to get a reliever in the offseason. Doesnt necessarily need to be a closer, but they need someone reliable in the pen. Maybe a free agent, maybe a trade.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #227: September 11, 2021, 11:22:34 PM »
Phillies designated Vince Velasquez for assignment.  Still only 29.  I believe he is a free agent at year end anyway but may be someone to take a flyer on for next year.  With a short bench he could also be an asset since he can hit.  He got $4 million in his last year of arbitration so not sure what he would cost next year? $2 million?  I wanna like Vince. 
Hard pass. He's a bad pitcher.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #228: September 12, 2021, 08:06:34 AM »
Jojo Gray - What a bargain... :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #229: September 12, 2021, 03:24:57 PM »
Gonna throw it out there: Nats need to get a reliever in the offseason. Doesnt necessarily need to be a closer, but they need someone reliable in the pen. Maybe a free agent, maybe a trade.
I wouldn't mine seeing if Hudson wanted to come back.  won't break the bank and I got the impression he liked it here. 

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #230: September 12, 2021, 07:49:01 PM »
Jojo Gray - What a bargain... :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
He's a kid. He's got a shot.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #231: September 13, 2021, 05:28:08 AM »
He's a kid. He's got a shot.

Fair comment - mine was as much towards those who were lauding Gray as inevitable future starter when the trade was made...

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #232: September 13, 2021, 10:28:14 AM »

Pass. Dude is a right handed Corbin. Literally has it until he doesn't. Completely unreliable.
Part of a rebuild is getting to pull lots of lottery tickets and not minding when they don't work out.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #233: September 13, 2021, 10:29:22 AM »
Gonna throw it out there: Nats need to get a reliever in the offseason. Doesnt necessarily need to be a closer, but they need someone reliable in the pen. Maybe a free agent, maybe a trade.
I think we have a bunch of good middle relievers but aside from Finnegan none of them need to be in the 8th or 9th. Maybe someday, but not any time soon.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #234: September 13, 2021, 10:30:39 AM »
Fair comment - mine was as much towards those who were lauding Gray as inevitable future starter when the trade was made...

well, he's currently a starter, and he projects to be a front-line starter going forward. Having learned my lesson about Bell and Kieboom, I'm not ready to write him off just yet, especially since he's started a total of 9 games in the majors in his career.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #235: September 13, 2021, 10:35:16 AM »
Gonna throw it out there: Nats need to get a reliever in the offseason. Doesnt necessarily need to be a closer, but they need someone reliable in the pen. Maybe a free agent, maybe a trade.

Absolutely. Need someone we can expect to give us at least a mid-3 ERA out of the pen.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #236: September 13, 2021, 10:45:20 AM »
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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #237: September 13, 2021, 12:04:56 PM »
I think we have a bunch of good middle relievers but aside from Finnegan none of them need to be in the 8th or 9th. Maybe someday, but not any time soon.

Which is why i want a decent vet to be reliable. I want guys like Thompson, Machado, Murphy, and others to not have the pressure that comes with the 8th and 9th innings

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #238: September 13, 2021, 12:11:50 PM »
Zuckerman had a note that Martinez spoke to the pitchers as a group the other day. Seems his patience is wearing thin with the walks.

No way they run off Hickey. Wouldn't be surprised to see Blanco not return.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #240: September 14, 2021, 09:27:11 AM »
Wonder if we make a push for Stroman

https://www.mlb.com/news/josiah-gray-relationship-with-marcus-stroman

Free agent at 30 years old. Makes $19 million this season. Has made 30 starts and W-L not great but 2.87 ERA, well below league average. Perfect for the Nats for the next few years, but I think the Mets will pay to keep him.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #241: September 15, 2021, 10:38:02 AM »
Wonder if we make a push for Stroman

https://www.mlb.com/news/josiah-gray-relationship-with-marcus-stroman

He's on my list of guys I'd love to have but I worry about paying him a bunch when we're already stuck with Strasburg and Corbin.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #242: September 16, 2021, 08:44:05 AM »
Not sure what it would take to get him but how about take a flyer on Michael Conforto assuming he does not take a QO from the Mets.  Down year from him.  He seems to have been up and down batting during his career so maybe catch him on the upswing and hope Long can straighten him out long-term?

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #243: September 16, 2021, 09:45:27 AM »
I feel like Stroman is a hard regression candidate. He already doesnt strike out a lot of batters and relies on soft contact. If he loses velo, I could see his performance plummeting

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #244: September 16, 2021, 09:54:12 AM »
Not sure what it would take to get him but how about take a flyer on Michael Conforto assuming he does not take a QO from the Mets.  Down year from him.  He seems to have been up and down batting during his career so maybe catch him on the upswing and hope Long can straighten him out long-term?
I guess a one year, prove it deal is fine, but the best outcome of that is a decent prospect at the deadlike. Also, what do we do with Yadi?

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #245: September 16, 2021, 09:57:17 AM »
Signing a good reliever or two (or a guy who might be primed for a bounceback season) is a great idea for a team like the Nationals. Flip them at the deadline for prospects: see the Brad Hand deal for how contenders are desperate to overpay for relief pitching at the deadline.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #246: September 16, 2021, 10:59:06 AM »
I guess a one year, prove it deal is fine, but the best outcome of that is a decent prospect at the deadlike. Also, what do we do with Yadi?

Would you give up a draft pick to sign him to a one year deal. I wouldn’t. Also, I imagine if he wants a prove it year, he could just accept the QO. I wouldn’t do a long term contract with him.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #247: September 16, 2021, 11:07:34 AM »
Would you give up a draft pick to sign him to a one year deal. I wouldn’t. Also, I imagine if he wants a prove it year, he could just accept the QO. I wouldn’t do a long term contract with him.
If he doesnt get a QO, we dont give up a pick. He isnt turni g down a QO. Not unless he really, really hates it there.

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« Reply #248: September 16, 2021, 01:34:55 PM »
If he doesnt get a QO, we dont give up a pick. He isnt turni g down a QO. Not unless he really, really hates it there.

I just assumed he would get a QO. But you’re right, maybe the won’t.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2022
« Reply #249: September 16, 2021, 01:52:47 PM »
I assume if he gets the Offer, he's gonna take it. No one is going to give him the deals he's looking for. He'd have to be willing to take a lot less than 18 million if he declines the QO and seeks another team.