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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #176: February 22, 2022, 11:18:21 AM »


Next year.

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« Reply #177: February 22, 2022, 06:37:57 PM »
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« Reply #178: February 23, 2022, 01:24:50 PM »
here's a good piece on where things stand today, and the enormous gap still between the sides on the CBT

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/even-with-face-to-face-meetings-a-new-cba-isnt-getting-much-closer/

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #179: February 26, 2022, 07:42:05 PM »
I'm so glad I said goodbye to Verizon Fios and MASN/MASN2 back in October.  The players union is GREEDY and they can all go F&!K themselves.

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« Reply #180: February 26, 2022, 11:02:39 PM »
Per Janes, players made several big concessions to the owners and the owners wouldn’t budge. They are meeting tomorrow despite no optimism of any momentum toward a deal.

Here’s more:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/02/mlbpas-latest-cba-proposal-leads-to-hostile-meeting-between-players-owners.html

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #181: February 28, 2022, 02:08:58 PM »
Watching billionaires and millionaires fight over small percentages with everything that has gone on in this world the last couple years is really tiresome.    My enthusiasm for another short baseball season will be at an all time low.   At least my hockey team (Flames) are having a good year, and I can hopefully watch them deep into the spring!

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #184: March 01, 2022, 04:14:45 PM »
Heyman says players will reject

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #185: March 01, 2022, 04:18:37 PM »
Heyman says players will reject

Wonder if he heard that from Boras

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #186: March 01, 2022, 04:59:40 PM »
The owners really think that the fans are just going to come back. They think that fan support is a constant. This is going to really hurt baseball as a whole, and who knows if it recovers or not. Maybe it's not going to fall as hard as pro boxing did, but things aren't going to be the same.

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #187: March 01, 2022, 05:38:16 PM »
Players unanimously reject the owner's offer. First two series of games officially cancelled. Both sides going home.

Sigh...

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #188: March 01, 2022, 05:49:13 PM »
It’s much easier to agree on how to split a growing pie than a shrinking one. Hopefully they don’t kill the sport figuring it out

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« Reply #189: March 01, 2022, 06:08:33 PM »
It’s much easier to agree on how to split a growing pie than a shrinking one. Hopefully they don’t kill the sport figuring it out

They don't realize it IMHO

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #190: March 01, 2022, 06:48:32 PM »
The owners really think that the fans are just going to come back. They think that fan support is a constant. This is going to really hurt baseball as a whole, and who knows if it recovers or not. Maybe it's not going to fall as hard as pro boxing did, but things aren't going to be the same.
Yep. And it will mostly be younger fans who drop the sport. And fewer younger fans will sign on board as new fans. Most of us old geezers will come back. At least to watch on tv.  But less times to the park and less willing to pay for tv packages.

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #191: March 01, 2022, 06:59:40 PM »
freak Manfred and freak the owners.  All of them, but especially Angelos. 

No matter the spin, this is on them.  This is a lockout.  They could have played under the prior agreement as a temporary extension.  So freak Lerner too.

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #192: March 01, 2022, 07:40:08 PM »
Brockmire’a dystopian baseball future gets closer to realty every day.

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« Reply #193: March 01, 2022, 08:17:33 PM »
Yep. And it will mostly be younger fans who drop the sport. And fewer younger fans will sign on board as new fans. Most of us old geezers will come back. At least to watch on tv.  But less times to the park and less willing to pay for tv packages.


Honestly, with 2019 being such a sweet memory, with the timing of this lockout, I don't know how much interest I'm personally going to have anymore. The owners botched this one, and botched it hard. Blow hard billionaires will be blow hard billionaires. They have ZERO connection to reality, like Lucille Bluth zero connection to reality. "It's one banana Michael. What could it cost, $10?"

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« Reply #194: March 01, 2022, 08:40:53 PM »
latest chapter in The March of Folly

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« Reply #195: March 02, 2022, 12:06:56 PM »

Honestly, with 2019 being such a sweet memory

Said it before and I'll say it again - 2019 was the perfect bookend to the Nats fairytale.  I'll always keep up with the team, but I don't really care what happens anymore.  MLB is its own worst enemy.

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #196: March 02, 2022, 12:36:28 PM »
so apparently the sports gambling sites are now taking bets on season start and games played.

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« Reply #197: March 02, 2022, 12:54:24 PM »
Said it before and I'll say it again - 2019 was the perfect bookend to the Nats fairytale.  I'll always keep up with the team, but I don't really care what happens anymore.  MLB is its own worst enemy.

Between the series win, the shortened 2020 season, the obvious tanking, no cable subscription, and the strike? Yeah, I'm with you. I'll check the box scores on occasion, but it'll be a quite a while before I make each game appointment tv/radio every day, if ever.

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« Reply #198: March 02, 2022, 01:25:35 PM »
Said it before and I'll say it again - 2019 was the perfect bookend to the Nats fairytale.  I'll always keep up with the team, but I don't really care what happens anymore.  MLB is its own worst enemy.

We're the last REAL mlb champs of all-time. everyone else is either a result of a COVID season or the abomination that is a 14-team playoff.

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Re: CBA Negotiations- 2022
« Reply #199: March 02, 2022, 01:53:48 PM »
Man, this sucks. I am morbidly curious to see how much attendance and viewership drops and if/when it will recover. I more curious about that then the actual product on the field. What a damn shame.