Author Topic: 3d base? I don't know - Nats Tribute to Abbott & Costello (Read 1311 times)

DCFan · « **Topic Start:** March 28, 2021, 09:10:37 PM »

Todd Frazier just opted out of his minor league deal with the Pirates and is a free agent.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #1:** March 29, 2021, 09:28:30 AM »

Now that Carter Kieboom is sent down along with Luis Garcia, and probably Starlin Castro and Jordy Mercer, with maybe some Harrison and Perez thrown in, it's time to restart our 3d base thread.

imref · « **Reply #2:** March 29, 2021, 09:52:09 AM »

Slateman · « **Reply #3:** March 29, 2021, 10:52:05 AM »

I think the bigger question is when do you make a move? Do you do it early in the season, and hope for healthy pitching? Do you wait until the deadline and see if its worth it?

imref · « **Reply #4:** March 29, 2021, 11:05:07 AM »

Quote from: Slateman on March 29, 2021, 10:52:05 AM

I think the bigger question is when do you make a move? Do you do it early in the season, and hope for healthy pitching? Do you wait until the deadline and see if its worth it?

The plan is Harrison at 2nd and Castro at 3rd to start the season with Perez and Mercer available off the bench. I think you give it a month and reevaluate after that. There's no need to make an early move IMHO. The way this team is built, 3rd base is gravy, the offense is built around Turner/Soto/Bell/Schwarber.

And of course you hope that Kieboom suddenly remembers how to hit.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #5:** March 29, 2021, 11:13:15 AM »

I could even see Kieboom or Garcia getting a call up if either looks good at the alternative site and the first month in Rochester.

imref · « **Reply #6:** March 29, 2021, 11:24:30 AM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on March 29, 2021, 11:13:15 AM

I could even see Kieboom or Garcia getting a call up if either looks good at the alternative site and the first month in Rochester.

probably not unless there's an injury or Castro/Harrison forget how to hit. At this point service time might be factored into the decision.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #7:** March 29, 2021, 12:35:26 PM »

Quote from: imref on March 29, 2021, 11:24:30 AM

probably not unless there's an injury or Castro/Harrison forget how to hit. At this point service time might be factored into the decision.

well, the schedule I was talking about was close to June, so I think that helps on service time. If they are winning with Castro and Harrison, then the call ups wouldn't happen. But the q was how long before they make a move, so I'd say the call ups would not be for 2 months.

Slateman · « **Reply #8:** March 29, 2021, 01:58:18 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on March 29, 2021, 12:35:26 PM

well, the schedule I was talking about was close to June, so I think that helps on service time. If they are winning with Castro and Harrison, then the call ups wouldn't happen. But the q was how long before they make a move, so I'd say the call ups would not be for 2 months.

I was speaking moreso of a trade. Harrison has been regressing at the plate for a couple seasons, and he's 33. I dont really see him lasting the whole season.

Even with a best case scenario, Harrison's bat is a little light. Same for Castro. Nats still are going to need a better bat.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #9:** March 29, 2021, 02:10:27 PM »

Quote from: Slateman on March 29, 2021, 01:58:18 PM

I was speaking moreso of a trade. Harrison has been regressing at the plate for a couple seasons, and he's 33. I dont really see him lasting the whole season.

he really should be a super utility like Howie. I think that was the plan, with Castro starting. Harrison starting and Mercer and Perez on the roster were the plan Bs that had to be called on when neither kid won a job. I think a few of us wanted La Stella or even Gyorko as Plan A.

varoadking · « **Reply #10:** March 29, 2021, 02:22:47 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on March 29, 2021, 02:10:27 PM

he really should be a super utility like Howie.

This team is gonna miss havin' Howie...

imref · « **Reply #11:** March 29, 2021, 03:14:26 PM »

Quote from: varoadking on March 29, 2021, 02:22:47 PM

This team is gonna miss havin' Howie...

in many ways.

imref · « **Reply #12:** March 29, 2021, 03:28:32 PM »

Jake Lamb signs with the White Sox.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #13:** March 29, 2021, 03:43:52 PM »

Quote from: imref on March 29, 2021, 03:28:32 PM

Jake Lamb signs with the White Sox.

This signing was greeted by silence, I suspect.

DCFan · « **Reply #14:** March 29, 2021, 03:46:56 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on March 29, 2021, 03:43:52 PM

This signing was greeted by silence, I suspect.

I know one poster who was up on this.

imref · « **Reply #15:** March 29, 2021, 03:50:05 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on March 29, 2021, 03:43:52 PM

This signing was greeted by silence, I suspect.

with a side of fava beans

DCFan · « **Reply #16:** March 29, 2021, 03:53:36 PM »

Quote from: imref on March 29, 2021, 03:50:05 PM

with a side of fava beans

ALDI has the best $4.99 Chianti on the market.

welch · « **Reply #17:** March 29, 2021, 05:44:58 PM »

Kris Bryant rental? His agent -- Boras -- has not talked with the Cubs. Maybe a rental and a Boras one-year "pillow" contract?

imref · « **Reply #18:** March 29, 2021, 06:00:58 PM »

Quote from: welch on March 29, 2021, 05:44:58 PM

Kris Bryant rental? His agent -- Boras -- has not talked with the Cubs. Maybe a rental and a Boras one-year "pillow" contract?

Spring Training 2021:

Bryant: 6-38, 1 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR, .158 / .359 / .582
Kieboom: 6-45, 2 2B, 1 3B, 0 HR, .133 / .204 / .426

Maybe we can get Bryant cheap?

aspenbubba · « **Reply #19:** March 29, 2021, 06:35:22 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on March 29, 2021, 02:10:27 PM

he really should be a super utility like Howie. I think that was the plan, with Castro starting. Harrison starting and Mercer and Perez on the roster were the plan Bs that had to be called on when neither kid won a job. I think a few of us wanted La Stella or even Gyorko as Plan A.

Also Suarez and a few dreamers ,like yours truly, were hoping Rizzo could pull his magic to acquire DJL. It seems that he placed his bet on KieBUST and lost with no plan "B".

UMDNats · « **Reply #20:** March 29, 2021, 06:47:20 PM »

Kieboom has been so obviously a bust for like two years.

Slateman · « **Reply #21:** March 29, 2021, 07:13:23 PM »

Quote from: welch on March 29, 2021, 05:44:58 PM

Kris Bryant rental? His agent -- Boras -- has not talked with the Cubs. Maybe a rental and a Boras one-year "pillow" contract?

Id like to get him earlier, but I feel like the Cubs are gonna hold hom until the deadline if he comes out of the gate hitting well.

Kyle Seager is an option. Gotta imagine he can be had for nothing at this point.

Eduardo Escobar could be another cheap option.

Trevor Story would be the big name. Nats could slide Turner over to second and slot Story in the two hole.

varoadking · « **Reply #22:** March 29, 2021, 07:26:52 PM »

Quote from: UMDNats on March 29, 2021, 06:47:20 PM

Kieboom has been so obviously a bust for like two years.

He'll come into his own as soon as we trade or release him...they always seem to...

Count Walewski · « **Reply #23:** March 30, 2021, 11:11:30 AM »

The Orioles cut Yolmer Sanchez who won the AL Gold Glove in 2019 at shortstop and can play 3B/SS/2B. Of course his offense can be so bad that he failed to make the 2021 Orioles.

aspenbubba · « **Reply #24:** March 30, 2021, 11:19:02 AM »

Quote from: varoadking on March 29, 2021, 07:26:52 PM

He'll come into his own as soon as we trade or release him...they always seem to...

I could only think of Giolito and Treinen. Who else comes to mind. I'm just referring to players we felt would never make it in a Nats uni. Both were traded but we couldn't fix them while they were here.