NFL 2021-22

[Slateman]

Hello officiating controversy

[imref]

That’s not good for cincy.

[HalfSmokes]

Reminds me of Palmer against the Steelers back in the day

[Slateman]

Burrow's knee is done

[Slateman]

Stafford should win this. Burrow cant throw.

[imref]

Rams got a gift call to even it up.

[Slateman]

Good job, Matt

[skippy1999]

Rams got a gift call to even it up.

Bingo

[Slateman]

Great job by the Rams defense. But for a completely missed call on a facemask, they gave up 13 points to Burrow

[Natsinpwc]

Rams got a gift call to even it up.

WUT--the hold was before the pass?  So they never showed that on replay.  Bengals got a gift no call for  a TD.

[imref]

WUT--the hold was before the pass?  So they never showed that on replay.  Bengals got a gift no call for  a TD.

There was no hold on the third down PI call

[Natsinpwc]

There was no hold on the third down PI call

It was not pass interference.  Was called holding before the throw.  They did not show the whole pass route.

[Natsinpwc]

Looks like a hold as he started to cut.

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/rams-controversial-holding-call-super-bowl-win-bengals/591945

[imref]

Looks like a hold as he started to cut.

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/rams-controversial-holding-call-super-bowl-win-bengals/591945

Refs missed a false start on that play

[Natsinpwc]

Refs missed a false start on that play

Happens. Just like the missed face mask in quarter 3. All evens out. 

[Natsinpwc]

They also called back the Rams touchdown just before that based on offsetting calls. I don’t believe they ever showed a replay of either team penalty. Rams was offensive holding.

Refs were quiet most of the game and wanted to be “stars”. 

[imref]

Torn ACL for OBJ

[KnorrForYourMoney]

Looks like a hold as he started to cut.

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/rams-controversial-holding-call-super-bowl-win-bengals/591945

If you watch it in real time, that faint, momentary jersey grab barely lasts a split second and really doesn't do anything to benefit the defender.  The hand on the chest before that also didn't disrupt the timing at all and didn't appear to slow down the receiver's motion.

Also, even if you grant that a cut was somehow impeded there, it wouldn't have mattered - the ball was headed right toward the receiver, the defender just took a better route toward the ball.  If the receiver had been moving back towards the line of scrimmage like a comeback route, then maybe you could say the defender getting a quick grab/push would have mattered, but given where the receiver was running, the defender would have been in between the pass and the receiver no matter what.

Pretty bad call, given the spirit of the rule.  Really bad call given the circumstances of the play/game.

[HalfSmokes]

It was a make good call following an egregious non call. Each side got a touchdown off of terrible reffing, so it seems equal to me

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Torn ACL for OBJ

got an offseason to heal if he still wants to play.

[Vega]

got an offseason to heal if he still wants to play.

Dude was dumb enough to actually put a baby in his girl so he’s gonna need to keep playing to pay for that…

[Natsinpwc]

If you watch it in real time, that faint, momentary jersey grab barely lasts a split second and really doesn't do anything to benefit the defender.  The hand on the chest before that also didn't disrupt the timing at all and didn't appear to slow down the receiver's motion.

Also, even if you grant that a cut was somehow impeded there, it wouldn't have mattered - the ball was headed right toward the receiver, the defender just took a better route toward the ball.  If the receiver had been moving back towards the line of scrimmage like a comeback route, then maybe you could say the defender getting a quick grab/push would have mattered, but given where the receiver was running, the defender would have been in between the pass and the receiver no matter what.

Pretty bad call, given the spirit of the rule.  Really bad call given the circumstances of the play/game.

A hold is a hold no matter how long. If it’s not giving you an advantage as a defender why do it? I think it slowed him down a half step. I guess I see it differently. I can’t comment on all the other non holding calls on pass plays during the game because they don’t show those who of course. I just thought the non call on Higgins was more egregious. I mean the ref had to be looking right at him.

[KnorrForYourMoney]

A hold is a hold no matter how long. If it’s not giving you an advantage as a defender why do it? I think it slowed him down a half step.

My main point is it really doesn't matter because of where the ball was thrown.  If it was thrown a bit behind the receiver (where it should have been thrown) and out of reach, then a hold there actually matters.  Given where Stafford put the ball, the receiver gaining a half-step wouldn't have accomplished anything and probably would have made the pass even more of an underthrow.

Why do it?  Who knows--maybe it's an instinctive grab and he let go immediately when he realized there was nothing to be gained.

[Natsinpwc]

My main point is it really doesn't matter because of where the ball was thrown.  If it was thrown a bit behind the receiver (where it should have been thrown) and out of reach, then a hold there actually matters.  Given where Stafford put the ball, the receiver gaining a half-step wouldn't have accomplished anything and probably would have made the pass even more of an underthrow.

Why do it?  Who knows--maybe it's an instinctive grab and he let go immediately when he realized there was nothing to be gained.

On holding it does not matter where the ball is thrown. It is before the throw. Official has no way of knowing where the ball will be. Not pass interference.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

On holding it does not matter where the ball is thrown. It is before the throw. Official has no way of knowing where the ball will be. Not pass interference.

I thought the ball was placed at the 1 on that play, which would have been a PI and not a hold.  Are we sure holding is what was called?